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nikdom
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Nadal is the only top 5 player not playing right now. That's the only relevant fact.
Nadal is the only top 5 player that Murray doesn't have an edge over now
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veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Nadal is not retired.
THE FIGHTER
Hall of Fame
ferrer is tough. he has been a staple in the top 5 for years. the next best thing to the top 4. if it wasnt for rafa he would have multiple french opens by now.
THE FIGHTER
Hall of Fame
people forget easily. they will soon come to remember the fear that is rafa. crouching tiger hidden dragon
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Rafa is the only top 5 player to pick his butt 5 times in a minute.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
The important thing is the day off in between. (He didn't play 2 5 setters back to back at AO, he had a day to recover). When your opponent is as good as Murray is and has a normal schedule and you need to come out 3 days in a row, of course it's gonna make a difference. At that level, everything matters. I'm sure it mattered for Murray at USO 2008.
Clarky21
Banned
I think it's more than 5. Lol.
THE FIGHTER
Hall of Fame
EXACTLY. he preforms the best when he's at his best playing the best and winning.
Clarky21
Banned
Ok, thanks. If Lance can play endlessly for hours and hours and then come back fresh as a daisy, I think he can manage to play a few short sets over a few days time. Didn't he have that 4 hour semi against Andy in Rome in 2011 only come back the very next day showing no signs of ever having played that match, beating Nadal in the final?
THE FIGHTER
Hall of Fame
rafa beat him like murray that day
Fedex
Legend
I can come up with excuses for every one of Murray's slam final losses - bad scheduling, tough draws, exhaustion, injuries etc.
Does that mean there's an asterisk against every player who beat Murray in a slam final?
The fact is Murray wasn't good or strong enough to cope with it and his rivals were because, for instance, they maybe played better earlier rounds and deserved to be fresher for the final.
Apologies for the name calling btw but the wind stuff really gets on my goat and, if you've been watching Murray's progress over the years which I doubt you have from your comments then you'll know Murray's success is down to world class play on a par with the very best. Not down to the wind.
THE FIGHTER
Hall of Fame
Yep, the best the rest of the field can manage is a +1 match differential against Nadal (1-0 and 6-5). Barely a lead. I HOPE Nadal faces Rosol and Davydenko in 2013.
yes! sweet redemption. davydenko lost in straights i think in the Australian Open. rafa will dismantle him
batz
G.O.A.T.
You're funny - you should get a manager rather than sitting there handling yourself.
Oh yeah, you're right, he's coming back at the US, I mean Australian, I mean, uh.......
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
The semis against Berdych had horrendous wind conditions. Why is everyone making it as though there was wind in the finals ?
Novak was clearly the better player at the end of the 4th set and Murray was mentally out. At that juncture, Novak didnt have any more gas in him. If he had a better schedule, he definitely would have won. No doubt.
Compensates for the lucky forehands that he had against Fed in USO 2010 and 2011 SF.
When you have a long career, it will all even out. (except for Murray's easy draws)
Novak was clearly the better player at the end of the 4th set and Murray was mentally out. At that juncture, Novak didnt have any more gas in him. If he had a better schedule, he definitely would have won. No doubt.
Compensates for the lucky forehands that he had against Fed in USO 2010 and 2011 SF.
When you have a long career, it will all even out. (except for Murray's easy draws)
Fedex
Legend
The luck that saw Murray lose a set to Berdych in the USO semi final because the wind blew his hat off a winning shot on break point.
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Deleted member 307496
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No he wouldn't, Federer can beat him easily.
THE FIGHTER
Hall of Fame
sarcasm is for winners
TheF1Bob
Banned
Using my gif now are we? LOL jokes, this is the dedicated to NSK and to NSK only. 8)
No, you 'fail HARD'. I'm not NSK (I believe his actual username is nadal_slam_king, show some respect) and I'm certainly not talking to myself in this thread. Then again, you are a part of the most paranoid tennis forum in existence, Talk Tennis.
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doobiedoodoo
Rookie
RAFA2005RG has convinced me that Nadal is the Chuck Norris of Tennis. Other players win simply because Nadal allows it.
The_Order
G.O.A.T.
Nadal has a better record vs Murray on clay, grass and indoor hc. They're even in outdoor hc.
He also has a better record vs Novak on clay and grass.
He also has a better record vs Federer on clay and outdoor hc.
More importantly he leads h2h against all of them at majors.
THE FIGHTER
Hall of Fame
nadal is better than all three of them. lets face it. the stats are astounding. GOAT
Seventeen
Rookie
Murray KILLED Federer at the Olympics 6-2 6-1 6-4.
Murray OUT-CLUTCHED Djokovic at the US Open 7-6 7-5 2-6 3-6 6-2
Murray OUT-CLUTCHED Ferrer at Wimbledon 6-7 7-6 6-4 7-6
Whereas Murray lost to Nadal at their last 3 slam meetings:
2011 US Open Nadal 6-4 6-2 3-6 6-2
2011 Wimbledon 5-7 6-2 6-2 6-4
2011 Roland Garros 6-4 7-5 6-4
Nadal has also defeated Federer, Djokovic and Ferrer at their last slam meetings.
And so begins the Murray-Nadal era, 2013-2016.
Roland Garros is a forgone conclusion, with Nadal winning 6-8 clay events between now and June. Wimbledon and the US Open should be closer.
THE FIGHTER
Hall of Fame
i need this in my life.
Nadal Hwaiting....!!
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
Wow! Nadal must've been in a real giving mood to allow Djokovic those 3 consecutive Slam wins! How wonderful of Rafa!
THE FIGHTER
Hall of Fame
Wow! Nadal must've been in a real giving mood to allow Djokovic those 3 consecutive Slam wins! How wonderful of Rafa!
first rate guy, that rafa. give give give. unlike selfish federer and ungrateful djokovic.
furryballs
Banned
the GOAT does not go out in the second round of any slam,,,,,,,or the fourth round for that matter,,,,,,,,,
furryballs
Banned
how will nads go when he comes back and cant play to his own pace?
THE FIGHTER
Hall of Fame
but the first, yes. yes indeed.
THE FIGHTER
Hall of Fame
poor poor rafa. his ocd ticks will go into overdrive.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Cool. An average of 79,16 posts a day. Hope you can keep it up TW needs someone like you.
dominikk1985
Legend
I would not overrate the olympics win. yes, the olympics are extremely important for fed and he was certainly at least as motivated as he is in a slam but he had the disadvantage of being tired due to that long DP match. If he was fresh that match would have been a lot closer.
I expect a very hard match today. fed might not be in his prime anymore but he is in very good shape for his age and hitting the ball very well. that will not be easy for murray, especially if fed has a good first serve percentage.
I expect a very hard match today. fed might not be in his prime anymore but he is in very good shape for his age and hitting the ball very well. that will not be easy for murray, especially if fed has a good first serve percentage.
THE FIGHTER
Hall of Fame
thank you. i'm really trying. i have big shoes to fill. #humblerafa
Soulie
Rookie
Let's not forget Nadal leads 3-2 on slam H2H with Fed even without the roland garros matches
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