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G.O.A.T.
Not gonna bother putting a poll because match about to start. What do you think? I hope for Stan in 2 but realistically I see Daveed in 3.
Daveed Ferrer VS Stan the Man 2013 Buenos Aires Final
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Stan breaks for 3-1. 
0-30 on his serve now though...
Ferrer breaks back. 3-2
0-30 on his serve now though...
Ferrer breaks back. 3-2
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Geology_Rocks!
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And he gives it back...
Onehandedbackhand
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Boy this thread died a painful death when Ferrer blitzed Stan, haha.
5-4 Ferrer, serving for set
5-4 Ferrer, serving for set
Onehandedbackhand
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6-4 first set
Cosmic_Colin
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I want Stan to win, but I don't mind if David does as he'll protect his ranking lead over Nadal. I want Nadal to go into the French and Wimbledon as #5, as it'll mix things up :twisted:
Onehandedbackhand
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He will anyway. Too far back.
Onehandedbackhand
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4-2 Stan second set
Cosmic_Colin
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Yeah you're right, I'm just playing it safe.
I expect him to drop to #6 after the French, from not winning it... but then gain for the rest of the year and get back to #4, maybe #3.
Anyway, I can't watch this match, how are they both playing?
Onehandedbackhand
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Ferrer the usual...absolutely relentless, but makes things harder on himself than he should. Always going for three more shots than necessary.
Stan isn't playing bad at all, but a lot of missed chances. Backhand looks sweet.
Stan isn't playing bad at all, but a lot of missed chances. Backhand looks sweet.
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Thank goodness Stan didn't choke away a lead in a set for a 3rd time. He holds and we're going to a decider.
Lots of bad calls from the linesman though. Ferrer seems annoyed about the times he has to rub off the marks. (HOW MANY TIMES?!)
Lots of bad calls from the linesman though. Ferrer seems annoyed about the times he has to rub off the marks. (HOW MANY TIMES?!)
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Seems like Stan is still prone to mental breakdowns.
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Give Stan this...his backhand is SICK!
Onehandedbackhand
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And a breadstick for Ferrer in the third. That's title #20.
Here's my question. Do any of these other players actually do their homework at ALL? I mean the top players in the world just pound Ferru mercilessly down lines, take chances, move him all over the place, then put him away. Everybody else just hits with the guy. What do they think, that they are the one that's actually going to wear the guy out? That they'll be the ones that make him go impatient?
I mean, let's be real...we made fun of Simon and Monfils' painfully boring 70 hit rally, but that's nothing more than a crosscourt warmup for Ferru. No one else takes chances with the guy at all, or at least not consistently.
Here's my question. Do any of these other players actually do their homework at ALL? I mean the top players in the world just pound Ferru mercilessly down lines, take chances, move him all over the place, then put him away. Everybody else just hits with the guy. What do they think, that they are the one that's actually going to wear the guy out? That they'll be the ones that make him go impatient?
I mean, let's be real...we made fun of Simon and Monfils' painfully boring 70 hit rally, but that's nothing more than a crosscourt warmup for Ferru. No one else takes chances with the guy at all, or at least not consistently.
veroniquem
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Congrats to Ferrer on his successful title defense and his 20th ATP title overall. He's now part of a rather exclusive club of current players with 20+ titles:
1- Federer: 76
2- Nadal: 51
3- Djokovic: 35
4- Roddick: 32
5- Hewitt: 28
6- Murray: 25
7- Davydenko: 21
8- Ferrer: 20
The next player to reach 20 should be Delpo (he currently has 14)
1- Federer: 76
2- Nadal: 51
3- Djokovic: 35
4- Roddick: 32
5- Hewitt: 28
6- Murray: 25
7- Davydenko: 21
8- Ferrer: 20
The next player to reach 20 should be Delpo (he currently has 14)
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David is rock solid as always. Gotta admire his mental and physical application into every match.
He's retired. So the group consists of seven.
He's retired. So the group consists of seven.
veroniquem
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I left Roddick in because the ATP still has him as an active player. + it makes sense, retired or not since he is the same age as Fed, Ferrer.
Onehandedbackhand
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Ferrer will probably catch Roddick before his career's over, but no farther. 33(+) titles would be a great career.
Relinquis
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they can't do it consistently, the errors start piling up and then it gets to them mentally, the tense up and the error floodgates open.. then they try to outgrind him, we know how that ends, etc...
the top guys know they'll have a few errors using this strategy, but they set up for winners better and take a few errors here and there without it getting to them. i.e. they are prepared to lose a few points with the correct strategy as long as they execute well enough on average and in key points. the know that if they build up points better to set up for their winners than it will work out at the end.
check out Almagro vs. Ferrer at the Aussie Open earlier this year. all it took was a bit of nerves from getting close to beating Ferrer and Almagro's game came tumbling down... Ferrer was consistent the whole match. So strong mentally. Machine...
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So here's my question...
Can Ferrer beat THIS Nadal? The one with the bad knees and inconsistent backhands Nadal. Question is interesting because it's on clay, and we know Rafa on there.
Relinquis
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Would be an interesting matchup... worth a dedicated thread imo.
i still think nadal will take it on a best of three sets, but a best of five might give Ferrer more of an edge. I'd say 50/50 on a best of 5 set clay match. i actually think nadal would do better against him on other surfaces as he'd be able to hit through the court more and come in to close out points.
There is time from now until roland garros. i think nadal should focus on getting healthy rather than worrying about results until then.
i still think nadal will take it on a best of three sets, but a best of five might give Ferrer more of an edge. I'd say 50/50 on a best of 5 set clay match. i actually think nadal would do better against him on other surfaces as he'd be able to hit through the court more and come in to close out points.
There is time from now until roland garros. i think nadal should focus on getting healthy rather than worrying about results until then.
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This easily might be a Ferrer title this coming Sunday again, regardless of Rafa. Last time Ferru caught Rafa hurt, he beat the crap out of him.
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