Federer owes Djokovic a win in Rome final.

FreeBird

Legend
Djokovic turned out to be the savior of Federer's grand slam records in 2011. Its time for payback. Though Djokovic will definitely take lead in the year race at RG or Wimby or let say the worst case,post Wimbledon hard court season. But still it would be courteous of Fed if he could gift Djoker by winning in the finals. I know that the guy is 31 year old and on clay, Raffy is almost unbeatable. Maybe by playing absolute aggressive tennis like Gulbis did, he can achieve it.
 
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6-1 6-3 6-0

Banned
Djokovic turned out to be the savior of Federer's grand slam records in 2011.

All NDjokovic did was delay the inevitable. And it'll be all the more painful for mentally weak RFederer fans when BOOM. RNadal won 18 slams. RNadal already owns the h2h (19-10 overall and 8-2 in slams), including the most Masters 1000 titles in world history. So now it's just up to RNadal to tidy up the slam count and sweep aside RFederer for good.

But still it would be courteous of Fed if he could gift Djoker by winning in the finals.

RFederer doesn't like NDjokovic. RFederer wasn't complimentary in the slightest in their US Open press conference after their semi-final in 2011 (where NDjokovic smacked a forehand return cross-court, totally destroying RFederer's pathetic mental foundations).

I know that the guy is 31 years old and on clay, Raffy is almost unbeatable. Maybe play absolute aggressive tennis like Gulbis did.

RFederer isn't strong enough to play aggressive tennis like Gulbis did. Throughout his career, stamina has been an issue (has a disgusting record in deciding 5th sets). Unless RFederer wants to fold after 4 games, he shouldn't do this. Not that whatever RFederer does is going to win him the match, anyway. 20-10 h2h, here we go, Talk Tennis posters. :p
 

Magnus

Legend
All NDjokovic did was delay the inevitable. And it'll be all the more painful for mentally weak RFederer fans when BOOM. RNadal won 18 slams. RNadal already owns the h2h (19-10 overall and 8-2 in slams), including the most Masters 1000 titles in world history. So now it's just up to RNadal to tidy up the slam count and sweep aside RFederer for good.



RFederer doesn't like NDjokovic. RFederer wasn't complimentary in the slightest in their US Open press conference after their semi-final in 2011 (where NDjokovic smacked a forehand return cross-court, totally destroying RFederer's pathetic mental foundations).



RFederer isn't strong enough to play aggressive tennis like Gulbis did. Throughout his career, stamina has been an issue (has a disgusting record in deciding 5th sets). Unless RFederer wants to fold after 4 games, he shouldn't do this. Not that whatever RFederer does is going to win him the match, anyway. 20-10 h2h, here we go, Talk Tennis posters. :p

Rafita is still a drama queen.
 

6-1 6-3 6-0

Banned
Rafa can't win 7 more RG. :evil:

RNadal won't have to win 7 more Roland Garros titles (although he easily could). RNadal would just have to find 7 from the four slams. RNadal made 2 US Open finals the last time he played it, the Australian Open final the last time he played it, and RNadal has made 5 Wimbledon finals since 2006 (a feat only RFederer can match), and RNadal is still at the tender age of 26. Saying RNadal won't reach 18 slams is simply wishful thinking. :p
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Will Rafa also have 5 or 6 YE no 1 ?

Will he get at least a couple of WTF ?

Does he have the honor of having the least number of weeks at nmber 1 for a guy with 10 plus majors ?
 

The-Champ

Legend
RNadal won't have to win 7 more Roland Garros titles (although he easily could). RNadal would just have to find 7 from the four slams. RNadal made 2 US Open finals the last time he played it, the Australian Open final the last time he played it, and RNadal has made 5 Wimbledon finals since 2006 (a feat only RFederer can match), and RNadal is still at the tender age of 26. Saying RNadal won't reach 18 slams is simply wishful thinking. :p

Nadal is 27 in a couple of days..
 
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Deleted member 77403

Guest
Fed owes Djoko nothing. Rafa owes Fed a reality check about Fed's chances at RG. Can't wait!

It's going to be carnage tomorrow!

The brahma bull is spitting and snorting, and the matador is going to get impaled on one of those top spin horns.
 

mandy01

G.O.A.T.
Roger owes it to himself to win this. Too many lost opportunities. I'm sure he'll try his best. If not, he still got match wins, earned some points, put himself back up in the race for now and can move on to Wimbledon with some hope. At his best, he's the best on grass.
 

Day Tripper

Semi-Pro
RNadal won't have to win 7 more Roland Garros titles (although he easily could). RNadal would just have to find 7 from the four slams. RNadal made 2 US Open finals the last time he played it, the Australian Open final the last time he played it, and RNadal has made 5 Wimbledon finals since 2006 (a feat only RFederer can match), and RNadal is still at the tender age of 26. Saying RNadal won't reach 18 slams is simply wishful thinking. :p


After 2010 i was really concerned that Nadal might catch Federer. When you consider that Nadal has only won two slams in the last two years I believe the pressure is now off. I doubt very much that Nadal will even get to 15 slams let alone 17. This is a great thing for tennis. The last thing the sport of tennis needs is a 'Barry Bonds' record. I dont want to see tennis viewed in the same light as cycling, baseball, athletics etc
 

Smasher08

Legend
RNadal won't have to win 7 more Roland Garros titles (although he easily could). RNadal would just have to find 7 from the four slams. RNadal made 2 US Open finals the last time he played it, the Australian Open final the last time he played it, and RNadal has made 5 Wimbledon finals since 2006 (a feat only RFederer can match), and RNadal is still at the tender age of 26. Saying RNadal won't reach 18 slams is simply wishful thinking. :p

Hey with sufficient PED use, everything is possible. :lol:

If the ATP and ITF suddenly withdrew from WADA, Nads might be a lock to win 27. :lol:

But the fascinating thing will be what happens to his slam count in 8-20 years. Biological passports are coming. They caught Contador, and they'll expose the cheats.

Oh, btw . . . whatever happened to your avatar? :lol:
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
After 2010 i was really concerned that Nadal might catch Federer. When you consider that Nadal has only won two slams in the last two years I believe the pressure is now off. I doubt very much that Nadal will even get to 15 slams let alone 17. This is a great thing for tennis. The last thing the sport of tennis needs is a 'Barry Bonds' record. I dont want to see tennis viewed in the same light as cycling, baseball, athletics etc

Djokovic is the winningest player at the Slams since 2011 with a 55% winning record. Nadal is second at 22%, and Federer/Murray are tied at third at 11%.
 

Clarky21

Banned
Has Hitman had a lobotomy lately? Either that or he is building Nadal up to something he's not so that when Cvac beats him at RG, he can crow endlessly about it.
 
Has Hitman had a lobotomy lately? Either that or he is building Nadal up to something he's not so that when Cvac beats him at RG, he can crow endlessly about it.

Maybe he's taking a page off of you in the jinxing/anti-jlinxing department, which is your forte........:-?
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
Has Hitman had a lobotomy lately? Either that or he is building Nadal up to something he's not so that when Cvac beats him at RG, he can crow endlessly about it.

I like hitman, but I've been wondering why he sounds like A Nadal fanboy recently too :lol: He respects all players but it's a little weird recently. Maybe he's just embracing the Nadal onslaught instead of being dissapointed. Accept the inevitable and it's ok, resist and you gt deflated.
 
I like hitman, but I've been wondering why he sounds like A Nadal fanboy recently too :lol: He respects all players but it's a little weird recently. Maybe he's just embracing the Nadal onslaught instead of being dissapointed. Accept the inevitable and it's ok, resist and you gt deflated.

I was wondering that myself. Hitman is one of the Fedfans that I like here too, but his tone has changed a bit. I was thinking that he's doing the Clarky route of jinxing which is ok. Either that or as you stated, accept what is and not get deflated.
 
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Towser83

G.O.A.T.
I was wondering that myself. Hitman is one of the Fedfans that I like here too, but his tone has change a bit. I was thinking that he's doing the Clarky route of jinxing which is ok. Either that or as you stated, accept what is and not get deflated.

Yeah I don't know what's going on, but TT seems to be going mad. Gifs being banned, the names of posters being banned, smilies being disabled and brought back... it's all happening :lol:
 

Tenez101

Banned
It's just his defense mechanism against the inevitable when RNadal :razz: slaughters mental midget RFederer :x tomorrow and storms to his record 8th RG title without dropping a set or even getting broken. I think RNadal will go on to have one of his greatest seasons ever in 2013, if not the greatest in history. RNadal already pushed NDjokovic to 5 sets in AO last year, and RNadal has only improved since then while NDjokovic has weakened, so I think RNadal will win the next 5-7 slams in a row and crush all the hopes and dreams of RFederer fanboys by making their idol's false legacy irrelevant. :razz: :razz:
 

TennisMaven

Banned
RFederer isn't strong enough to play aggressive tennis like Gulbis did. Throughout his career, stamina has been an issue (has a disgusting record in deciding 5th sets). Unless RFederer wants to fold after 4 games, he shouldn't do this. Not that whatever RFederer does is going to win him the match, anyway. 20-10 h2h, here we go, Talk Tennis posters. :p

Don't you mean EGulbis?
 
@Tenez ^^^^^Is this Clarkism ? Because geeweeez, so many TW posters are following his/her footsteps lately. Please don't. One is more than enough.......:lol:
 

DragonBlaze

Hall of Fame
I was wondering that myself. Hitman is one of the Fedfans that I like here too, but his tone has changed a bit. I was thinking that he's doing the Clarky route of jinxing which is ok. Either that or as you stated, accept what is and not get deflated.

Yeah I don't know what's going on, but TT seems to be going mad. Gifs being banned, the names of posters being banned, smilies being disabled and brought back... it's all happening :lol:

LOL same here, I like Hitman's posts but this sudden love for Nadal surprises me...

I believe Hitman's master plan is to colour Federer as the humble people's champion all the while praising Nadal to god-like status to the point where his domination starts resembling an evil tyranny of sorts, and thus it becomes the task of the valiant Federer to (metaphorically) slay the King of Clay and free the people from his stranglehold, and when he succeeds the people shall rejoice and mark that day as the beginning of the Golden Eagle era.

So essentially the reverse of what happened in 2008.

Ofcourse that makes no sense since Federer ain't beating Nadal and I have no idea how Djokovic fits into all of this, so I'm probably completely wrong.
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
@Tenez ^^^^^Is this Clarkism ? Because geeweeez, so many TW posters are following his/her footsteps lately. Please don't. One is more than enough.......:lol:

no that's Bull-zilla-ism, or 616360ism.

I am thinking of following the faith of Clarky though. I think jinxing works. I said it looked like a novak win vs Berdych and then he wins that set, goes 5-3 up and loses. I should have said he had no chance whatsoever of beating the Berd.
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
I believe Hitman's master plan is to colour Federer as the humble people's champion all the while praising Nadal to god-like status to the point where his domination starts resembling an evil tyranny of sorts, and thus it becomes the task of the valiant Federer to (metaphorically) slay the King of Clay and free the people from his stranglehold, and when he succeeds the people shall rejoice and mark that day as the beginning of the Golden Eagle era.

So essentially the reverse of what happened in 2008.

Ofcourse that makes no sense since Federer ain't beating Nadal and I have no idea how Djokovic fits into all of this, so I'm probably completely wrong.

hahaha that's genius!
 

TheF1Bob

Banned
It's just his defense mechanism against the inevitable when RNadal :razz: slaughters mental midget RFederer :x tomorrow and storms to his record 8th RG title without dropping a set or even getting broken. I think RNadal will go on to have one of his greatest seasons ever in 2013, if not the greatest in history. RNadal already pushed NDjokovic to 5 sets in AO last year, and RNadal has only improved since then while NDjokovic has weakened, so I think RNadal will win the next 5-7 slams in a row and crush all the hopes and dreams of RFederer fanboys by making their idol's false legacy irrelevant. :razz: :razz:

I can't even gif this, you got so many damn images dude! *smiles*

N.S.K would be proud. *cries*
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
I can't even gif this, you got so many damn images dude! *smiles*

N.S.K would be proud. *cries*

t'was good, but he failed to mention RNadal was the first man in world history to pick his shorts out of his butt crack on 3 different surfaces in a calendar year... or something like that? was definitely something todo with 3 surfaces.. that crazy N.S.K!
 
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Nathaniel_Near

Guest
I think TheF1Bob wants Roger to win this match even more than I do.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

Guest
t'was good, but he failed to mention RNadal was the first man in world history to pick his shorts out of his butt crack on 3 different surfaces in a calendar year... or something like that? was definitely something todo with 3 surfaces.. that crazy N.S.K!

I laughed out loud.
 

RF20Lennon

Legend
LOL even F1Bob has jumped on the Fed bandwagon for this. Is Nadal really that disliked? Nadal may own Fed on head to head but for some reason he has never been able to win hearts like Fed.
 
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JackReacher

Guest
Nothing will save Federer now. Nadal has won slams for 8 years in a row (Federer also had 8 straight years). It will be 9 years this year for Nadal, giving him sole possession of the record.

Interesting that Madrid may have the 2020 Olympics. It will be decided this year in September. You know Nadal will be there for that.
 
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JackReacher

Guest
LOL even F1Bob has jumped on the Fed bandwagon for this. Is Nadal really that disliked? Nadal may own Fed on head to head but for some reason he has never been able to win hearts like Fed.

The crowds at every stadium Nadal plays at say otherwise. And when Nadal plays Federer at slams, Nadal gets the most cheers (in Australia and Wimbledon).

Nadal is like Michael Jordan. Huge fan base, but he damaged his greatest rivals so the fans of those rivals can't stand Nadal.
 
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TheF1Bob

Banned
t'was good, but he failed to mention RNadal was the first man in world history to pick his shorts out of his butt crack on 3 different surfaces in a calendar year... or something like that? was definitely something todo with 3 surfaces.. that crazy N.S.K!

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R.I.P Brother!

I think TheF1Bob wants Roger to win this match even more than I do.

LOL even F1Bob has jumped on the Fed bandwagon for this. Is Nadal really that disliked? Nadal may own Fed on head to head but for some reason he has never been able to win hearts like Fed.

Because his hate for Nadal is SO MUCH GREATER than his Djoker love.....:twisted:

It's boring seeing the same guy winning all the time, no?

Nadal is probably the reason why F1Bob became a Dj fan to begin with :D

Too bad for F1Bob, Dj's success vs Nadal only lasted one year :lol:

Dj's success vs Nadal only lasted one year? Lets see about that now, shall we?

Wimbledon Men ( Tennis Grass Court )

07/03/2011 15:05 R. Nadal - N. Djokovic 1 : 3 (4 : 6) (1 : 6) (6 : 1) (3 : 6) Final

07/07/2007 13:05 N. Djokovic - R. Nadal 0 : 1 (6 : 3) (1 : 6) (1 : 4) Semi Finals

French Open Men ( Tennis Clay Court )

06/07/2006 12:05 N. Djokovic - R. Nadal 0 : 1 (4 : 6) (4 : 6) Quarter Finals

06/08/2007 16:25 N. Djokovic - R. Nadal 0 : 3 (5 : 7) (4 : 6) (2 : 6) Semi Finals

06/06/2008 13:05 N. Djokovic - R. Nadal 0 : 3 (4 : 6) (2 : 6) (6 : 7) Semi Finals

06/11/2012 13:10 N. Djokovic - R. Nadal 1 : 3 (4 : 6) (3 : 6) (6 : 2) (5 : 7) Final

US Open Men ( Tennis Hard Court )

09/13/2010 22:05 R. Nadal - N. Djokovic 3 : 1 (6 : 4) (5 : 7) (6 : 4) (6 : 2) Final

09/12/2011 22:14 N. Djokovic - R. Nadal 3 : 1 (6 : 2) (6 : 4) (6 : 7) (6 : 1) Final

Masters Series Paris ( Tennis Carpet Court )

11/14/2009 14:05 N. Djokovic - R. Nadal 2 : 0 (6 : 2) (6 : 3) Semi Finals

Masters Final Shanghai ( Tennis Hard Court )

11/15/2007 10:05 R. Nadal - N. Djokovic 2 : 0 (6 : 4) (6 : 4) Group 0

Australian Open Men ( Tennis Hard Court )

01/29/2012 09:35 N. Djokovic - R. Nadal 3 : 2 (5 : 7) (6 : 4) (6 : 2) (6 : 7) (7 : 5) Final

Davis Cup Men ( Tennis Clay Court )

03/08/2009 10:20 R. Nadal - N. Djokovic 3 : 0 (6 : 4) (6 : 4) (6 : 1) Round 1

Masters Series Indian Wells ( Tennis Hard Court )

03/20/2011 21:35 R. Nadal - N. Djokovic 1 : 2 (6 : 4) (3 : 6) (2 : 6) Final

03/18/2007 20:05 N. Djokovic - R. Nadal 0 : 2 (2 : 6) (5 : 7) Final

03/22/2008 21:05 N. Djokovic - R. Nadal 2 : 0 (6 : 3) (6 : 2) Semi Finals

Sony Ericsson Open Masters Series Miami ( Tennis Hard Court )

04/03/2011 18:50 R. Nadal - N. Djokovic 1 : 2 (6 : 4) (3 : 6) (6 : 7) Final

03/29/2007 03:05 N. Djokovic - R. Nadal 2 : 0 (6 : 3) (6 : 4) Quarter Finals

Masters Series Monte Carlo ( Tennis Clay Court )

04/19/2009 14:05 R. Nadal - N. Djokovic 2 : 1 (6 : 3) (2 : 6) (6 : 1) Final

04/22/2012 14:05 N. Djokovic - R. Nadal 0 : 2 (3 : 6) (1 : 6) Final

04/21/2013 14:50 N. Djokovic - R. Nadal 2 : 0 (6 : 2) (7 : 6) Final

Masters Series Rome ( Tennis Clay Court )

05/03/2009 16:10 R. Nadal - N. Djokovic 2 : 0 (7 : 6) (6 : 2) Final

05/15/2011 19:15 R. Nadal - N. Djokovic 0 : 2 (4 : 6) (4 : 6) Final

05/11/2007 17:00 N. Djokovic - R. Nadal 0 : 2 (2 : 6) (3 : 6) Quarter Finals

05/21/2012 12:05 N. Djokovic - R. Nadal 0 : 2 (5 : 7) (3 : 6) Final

Masters Series Hamburg ( Tennis Clay Court )

05/17/2008 14:40 N. Djokovic - R. Nadal 1 : 2 (5 : 7) (6 : 2) (2 : 6) Semi Finals

London Queens Club ( Tennis Grass Court )

06/15/2008 15:05 R. Nadal - N. Djokovic 2 : 0 (7 : 6) (7 : 5) Final

Masters Rogers Cup ( Tennis Hard Court )

08/12/2007 01:05 N. Djokovic - R. Nadal 2 : 0 (7 : 5) (6 : 3) Semi Finals

Masters Series Cincinnati ( Tennis Hard Court )

08/03/2008 01:05 N. Djokovic - R. Nadal 2 : 0 (6 : 1) (7 : 5) Semi Finals

08/23/2009 01:05 N. Djokovic - R. Nadal 2 : 0 (6 : 1) (6 : 4) Semi Finals

Masters Series Madrid ( Tennis Clay Court )

05/16/2009 16:05 R. Nadal - N. Djokovic 2 : 1 (3 : 6) (7 : 6) (7 : 6) Semi Finals

05/08/2011 18:35 R. Nadal - N. Djokovic 0 : 2 (5 : 7) (4 : 6) Final

Olympics Men Singles ( Tennis Clay Court )

08/15/2008 16:00 N. Djokovic - R. Nadal 1 : 2 (4 : 6) (6 : 1) (4 : 6) Semi Finals

Barclays ATP World Tour Finals ( Tennis Hard Court )

11/27/2009 15:20 R. Nadal - N. Djokovic 0 : 2 (6 : 7) (3 : 6) Group 0

11/24/2010 21:10 R. Nadal - N. Djokovic 2 : 0 (7 : 5) (6 : 2) Group 0

N. Djokovic has 15 wins

R. Nadal has 19 wins
1 year lol.
 
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Day Tripper

Semi-Pro
The crowds at every stadium Nadal plays at say otherwise. And when Nadal plays Federer at slams, Nadal gets the most cheers (in Australia and Wimbledon).

Nadal is like Michael Jordan. Huge fan base, but he damaged his greatest rivals so the fans of those rivals can't stand Nadal.

You have obviously never been to Aust or Wimbledon. Federer has been the crowd favorite at EVERY Nadal match he has ever played besides those played in Spain/South America.
 

Clarky21

Banned
You have obviously never been to Aust or Wimbledon. Federer has been the crowd favorite at EVERY Nadal match he has ever played besides those played in Spain/South America.

And you've gone through the entire crowd and taken a poll to be able come to this conclusion? I think, as do all Fed fans, you greatly underestimate Nadal's popularity.
 
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JackReacher

Guest
You have obviously never been to Aust or Wimbledon. Federer has been the crowd favorite at EVERY Nadal match he has ever played besides those played in Spain/South America.

2009 and 2012, both years when Nadal played Federer, Nadal got the biggest cheer when he walked out. I also noticed the crowd was laughing at Federer when he cried in 2009. I was in the stands.

And clearly Nadal had the most support at 2008 Wimbledon.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

Guest
2009 and 2012, both years when Nadal played Federer, Nadal got the biggest cheer when he walked out. I also noticed the crowd was laughing at Federer when he cried in 2009. I was in the stands.

And clearly Nadal had the most support at 2008 Wimbledon.

I agree with you entirely.
 

SLD76

G.O.A.T.
Nothing will save Federer now. Nadal has won slams for 8 years in a row (Federer also had 8 straight years). It will be 9 years this year for Nadal, giving him sole possession of the record.

Interesting that Madrid may have the 2020 Olympics. It will be decided this year in September. You know Nadal will be there for that.

after the operacion puerto decision, spain has *zero* chance of getting the olympics.

Also, well, roger cant have all the records.
 
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