SassyRamirez
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Both Wimbledon champions, but that's Novak's only grass title and he's questionable on the surface, whereas Hewitt has multiple grass titles and enjoys the surface.
Discuss.
Discuss.
If it's on grass..
Peak Novak > Peak Hewitt
but
Prime Hewitt > Prime Novak
David Ferrer
The best version of Novak at Wimbledon (2011) kills any version of Hewitt at Wimbledon.
Hewitt might be competitive with Djoker any year before 2010, but it'd still be very close. Djokovic only loses to very talented players at Wimbledon (Berydch, Safin etc), not scrubs.
You have never saw Hewitt played. If you think Hewitt isn't good on grass then even an OLD Hewitt has no business in beating Del Potro, who beat Nole at the Olympic last year.
I've seen Hewitt play in his prime. Of course he's good on grass. It's his best surface. Heck, I might even favour him against Djokovic in a best of 3 format.
But in Wimbledon, Best Of 5.....different kettle of fish. Hewitt, even at his best, would struggle to take a set off post 2011 Novak at Wimbeldon.Prime Djoker would just be too much for Hewitt at a slam. Any slam.
Del Potro is a streaky, inconsistent player and always has been. On his day, he can beat anyone in the world on fast surfaces (though he's a hardcourt specialist). But he can also have baffling losses to players he shouldn't be losing too. It's impossible to know which Del Potro will turn up. I wouldn't read too much into even old Hewitt beating him in a best of 3 tune-up event.
lol, wut ? tomic and baghdatis easily took sets off 2011 wimby djoker and he didn't find it easy vs them, yet hewitt would find it difficult to take a set off him ?
The best version of Novak at Wimbledon (2011) kills any version of Hewitt at Wimbledon.
Hewitt might be competitive with Djoker any year before 2010, but it'd still be very close. Djokovic only loses to very talented players at Wimbledon (Berydch, Safin etc), not scrubs.
I'm talking about Prime Djoker vs Prime Hewitt in a championship match at Wimbledon. The grass season is so short, it takes adjusting for most players. That's why someone like Nadal is more vulnerable in early rounds of Wimbledon, compared to the later rounds (semis, finals), where his is extremely hard to beat.
I guess in the earlier rounds, if Novak was still adjusting to the grass, Hewitt could trouble him (but likely still lose). But anything after the semis, and I don't think Hewitt would stand a chance at all.
those were the 4th round and QF matches , not that early ... and no, even 2011 novak in any round wouldn't find it easy vs hewitt ...
players like haas/berdych/safin who beat djoker at wimbledon are quite clearly inferior players to hewitt on grass ...
fact is you have no idea of how good prime hewitt was on grass ...
his best years occured between 2001-2005. in 2004 he did not reach the semis because he ran into federer and in 2005 he did not reach the final because he ran into federer again. hewitt did not lose to scrubs in slams in 2004-2005. in 2005 i think he could have won wimbledon without federer because roddick was not playing as well as the previous yearWell you seem to be singing a different tune now, you have said in the past that the QF was an early round. You were then forced to edit through embarrassment of such a dumb comment in order to hide your stupidity.
Prime Hewitt was very good on grass, no doubt about it. But let's not forget he has only ever made it to one WIM final (won it) which is equal with Novak, but he has only made it to one SF in all his other attempts whereas Novak has made 3 SF and likely to add to that.
Not to mention Hewitt (when he was #1 seed) lost in the first round to a qualifier and Novak has never lost in the first round on grass.
When you consider grass is Hewitt's best surface and Novak's worst, it really speaks volumes to the calibre of player Novak really is.
Hewitt also went out in the first round in 2001 as the #5 seed.
I think to be fair, you have to judge in a pool of matches between the two because either one of them could win on any given day but if they played at WIM 10 times for example, I'd say Novak would take about 7/10 of them.
his best years occured between 2001-2005. in 2004 he did not reach the semis because he ran into federer and in 2005 he did not reach the final because he ran into federer again. hewitt did not lose to scrubs in slams in 2004-2005. in 2005 i think he could have won wimbledon without federer because roddick was not playing as well as the previous year
Well you seem to be singing a different tune now, you have said in the past that the QF was an early round. You were then forced to edit through embarrassment of such a dumb comment in order to hide your stupidity.
Prime Hewitt was very good on grass, no doubt about it. But let's not forget he has only ever made it to one WIM final (won it) which is equal with Novak, but he has only made it to one SF in all his other attempts whereas Novak has made 3 SF and likely to add to that.
Not to mention Hewitt (when he was #1 seed) lost in the first round to a qualifier and Novak has never lost in the first round on grass.
When you consider grass is Hewitt's best surface and Novak's worst, it really speaks volumes to the calibre of player Novak really is.
Hewitt also went out in the first round in 2001 as the #5 seed.
I think to be fair, you have to judge in a pool of matches between the two because either one of them could win on any given day but if they played at WIM 10 times for example, I'd say Novak would take about 7/10 of them.
The best version of Novak at Wimbledon (2011) kills any version of Hewitt at Wimbledon.
Hewitt might be competitive with Djoker any year before 2010, but it'd still be very close. Djokovic only loses to very talented players at Wimbledon (Berydch, Safin etc), not scrubs.
You must have misunderstood. The question wasn't: Who can fill a concrete slab faster than anyone on tour?
hewitt lost to federer in 2008Intersting question. On any other surface it would be a no brianer. Prime Djokovic beats prime Hewit easily anywhere else. However on grass it is a tough call. Djokovic has won Wimbledon but IMO he is probabIy the poorest grass courter since Kodes to win Wimbledon. They played in 2008 when neither was in their prime but Djokovic was closer, and Djokovic barely won in 5 sets.
I've seen Hewitt play in his prime. Of course he's good on grass. It's his best surface. Heck, I might even favour him against Djokovic in a best of 3 format.
But in Wimbledon, Best Of 5.....different kettle of fish. Hewitt, even at his best, would struggle to take a set off post 2011 Novak at Wimbeldon.Prime Djoker would just be too much for Hewitt at a slam. Any slam.
No he doesn't. Watch some clips of prime Hewitt on grass. He was a better grass-court player than Djokovic, much better.
Not a chance. Not even close. Hewitt simply doesn't have the weapons and couldn't outlast Novak either. 2011 Djokovic wins in straight sets. Hewitt has never come close to that level on grass. God, his main rival at W was Tim Henman?
Old hobbled Hewitt took prime Djokovic to four sets at the AO 2012. I have seen both of them play live during their primes and for me Hewitt was a much better grass court player.
^Yup, that's why Djokovic has only one grass title vs. seven for Hewitt. Anyway, the question ports on "prime", not "peak".
Who exactly did Hewitt beat in those 7 tournaments? I'd wager he didn't beat a Nadal in any of them. More like a Henman. Sorry but you just can't compare.
Old hobbled Hewitt took prime Djokovic to four sets at the AO 2012. I have seen both of them play live during their primes and for me Hewitt was a much better grass court player.
Sure. And yet, last year, Hewitt took a set off Djokovic on his best surface, at the Australian Open (which also happens to be just about Hewitt's worst surface with clay). We're talking Djokovic fresh out of his 2011 year and Hewitt at 31, after a gazillion trips to the surgery table and a whopping ranking of 181.
So maybe you'd like to reconsider...
To answer the OP: prime vs prime, Hewitt would very probably take Djokovic to the woodshed in the majority of their matches on grass. Expect routine straight sets beatdowns. Close sets, though, and a four-setter or two wouldn't be out of the realm of possibilities.
He beat Federer in one of them...
Didnt old broke down hewitt take a set from prime djoker at on wimbledon grass last year at the Olympics?
LOL. He wasn't taking it as seriously? How come Djokovic talked about winning the Olympics and was looking forward to doing so? How come he was crushed when he lost to Del Potro?So what? Rosol beat Nadal last Wimbledon. Doesn't mean anything. I doubt Djok was taking it as seriously as he would a semi or final.
No, he beat Federer in 2010. Are you like 7 years old?Teenage Fed?