Where did you find this? The last paragraph is wrong.From USTA:
Q. If a tennis ball falls out of your pocket during a point, what's the ruling? Is it a let or does the opposing get the point even though you have won the point?
A. If you are playing social or recreational tennis, then you should ALWAYS offer to play a let (or a “do-over”) when an extra ball falls from your pocket during a point. The same is true for when your hat falls off your head. Often enough, your opponent will indicate that it was not a distraction and allow the point played to stand.
In a tournament match where an official is present to call the lines, the umpire will always call a let in this circumstance. If it happens repeatedly, then the umpire can penalize the offending player by automatically awarding the point to the opposing player. This eliminates the possibility of gamesmanship.
I'm confused.
In an unofficiated match, I thought a player could not call a hindrance/let for something she caused. Opponent can call a let if my hat falls off, but I cannot.
No?
What a bunch of nonsense here.
When I play with someone and he drops a ball out of his pocket and it obviously obstructs him I am glad to play a let. But why in heaven's name would I demand a let or even get the point for free? How can a ball dropped on my opponent's side of the court possibly bother me?
Gosh, some people are so incredibly uptight about just about anything.......
Yes, only the opposing team can call the let.
http://www.usta.com/Improve-Your-Game/Rules/Distractions-and-Interferences/Calling_a_let/
This exact thing happened in an extremely unpleasant playoff match this year. My opponent dropped a ball on an almost clear lob winner (intentionally in my mind). He then wanted to replay the point and made a big deal about it and unfortunately many other things throughout the match.
What a bunch of nonsense here.
When I play with someone and he drops a ball out of his pocket and it obviously obstructs him I am glad to play a let. But why in heaven's name would I demand a let or even get the point for free? How can a ball dropped on my opponent's side of the court possibly bother me?
Gosh, some people are so incredibly uptight about just about anything.......
What part of what I wrote here do you not understand"How can a ball on opponent's side possibly bother you?
Well, how about if you're not sure that the opponent noticed it, and you're afraid he might step on it and break an ankle?
Or maybe that really just doesn't bother you?
Hey, it's not your ankle, right?
When I play with someone and he drops a ball out of his pocket and it obviously obstructs him I am glad to play a let.
What part of what I wrote here do you not understand"
What if he drops his hat do you demand getting the point or a let because you are so incredibly distracted by it?
When I play a long rally I breathe hard does that distract you as well? How about my face, perhaps you do not like my face, another point or a let?
What possible fun is there in playing with people who are so incredibly uptight about just about anything.
You really seem to have reading comprehension problems or you just try to intentionally paint me as some evil person.Oh, I understood what you wrote quite well. You were very clear that you can't possibly imagine yourself calling a let when your opponent's ball drops from his pocket under any circumstance.
It's nice of you to agree to play a let if your opponent calls it and you believe that he was impeded. But you were quite adamant that you yourself would never call the let. Go reread you post again if you've forgotten your righteous indignation at the very thought of calling the let.
And I am calling you on it because if that's really the case, then you are under some circumstances putting your opponent at risk of injury, and that is very thoughtless.
Perhaps you think calling a let in order to prevent your opponent from potentially breaking his ankle is 'uptight'. I prefer to think of it as being considerate.
How can a ball dropped on my opponent's side of the court possibly bother me?
You really seem to have reading comprehension problems or you just try to intentionally paint me as some evil person.
Where did you find this? The last paragraph is wrong.
What a bunch of nonsense here.
When I play with someone and he drops a ball out of his pocket and it obviously obstructs him I am glad to play a let. But why in heaven's name would I demand a let or even get the point for free? How can a ball dropped on my opponent's side of the court possibly bother me?
Gosh, some people are so incredibly uptight about just about anything.......
All I am saying is that I gladly take a let if the ball obstructs my opponent.I guess what is confusing, newpball, is that you would play a let if your opponent drops a ball mid-point if it impeded the opponent.
But you are also saying that it is impossible for a dropped ball/hat etc. to distract you. So you would never call a let or take the point.
Well, OK. Please understand that some folks would be so concerned that the opponent might trip that they would alter how they play the point, or might focus their attention on that object rather than the ball.
But are you really saying that you wouldn't take the point no matter how many times your opponent's hat flew off mid-point?
And who would want to take a point because an opponents hat falls off, what is the honor in that? I am aware that there are people who want to win by all possible means but that's not me, I like to win points but not on silly technicalities.
So you get hindered if someone's hat falls off?It's not a point penalty if an opponent's hat falls off, it's a penalty of their hat falls off a second time. I've been playing for almost 40 years, and my hat has never fallen off. The odds of two unintentional hat drops in one match must be astronomical. The hindrance rule seems fair and very well thought out to me.
So you get hindered if someone's hat falls off?
Well, I don't!
And again people seem to hate me for that.
So you get hindered if someone's hat falls off?
Well, I don't!
And again people seem to hate me for that.
Let me guess - the person dropping the ball was wearing adidas shorts. For some reason, they insist on having the shallowest pockets of any shorts on the market. For that reason alone, I refuse to buy adidas shorts. Too bad - good quality other than that.
Here, it's the second question down on the page:
http://www.usta.com/Improve-Your-Game/Rules/Rules-and-Line-Calls/Let_Calls/
I hate to take a point just because the sun got into my opponents eyes.... or when their head was momentarily exposed to harmful rays.So you get hindered if someone's hat falls off?
Well, I don't!
So you get hindered if someone's hat falls off?
Well, I don't!
And again people seem to hate me for that.
No it would not, but I think it probably would bother my opponent.Would it bother you if it happened on every point?
So then you and I agree on this. :grin:From my perspective (for the most part) any of those things are more likely to affect the person that dropped them than they are me, so I'm happy to just keep playing.
Obviously, as I wrote before when the ball would obstruct my opponent I would be glad to play a let.At the same time, if a ball falls out of someone's pocket and they are in danger of stepping on it, then I owe it to them to stop the point for their safety.
I think you are looking at it wrong...
If your opponent drops a ball out of their pocket or their hat falls off in an unofficiated match, they cannot call a let - because by definition you can't hinder yourself. So the only person that can call a let is you. If they stop the point then they are conceding it.
From my perspective (for the most part) any of those things are more likely to affect the person that dropped them than they are me, so I'm happy to just keep playing. At the same time, if a ball falls out of someone's pocket and they are in danger of stepping on it, then I owe it to them to stop the point for their safety. It isn't a question of my being hindered by little things - except that the moment I have to start trying to decide if I should stop the point it is likely affecting my concentration already.
If someone has already dropped a ball once or twice in a match and they are still unwilling or unable to control the balls, then I don't have a lot of sympathy for them.
Obviously, as I wrote before when the ball would obstruct my opponent I would be glad to play a let.
From my perspective (for the most part) any of those things are more likely to affect the person that dropped them than they are me, so I'm happy to just keep playing. At the same time, if a ball falls out of someone's pocket and they are in danger of stepping on it, then I owe it to them to stop the point for their safety.
If the ball is in harms way I would most definitely call a let. However if the ball is not in harms way and my opponent continues I would not want to claim the point because I am 'distracted'. And I neither would claim the point in this case if my opponent loses his hat, farts, looks funny or has a big nose. Neither would I demand a let when a dog barks, a cellular phone rings, someone closes a gate or other nonsense.VNotice that newpball does not say that he himself would call the let. So in the event that the opponent did not notice the ball and did not stop play, then the opponent remains in harm's way.
If the ball is in harms way I would most definitely call a let. However if the ball is not in harms way and my opponent continues I would not want to claim the point because I am 'distracted'. And I neither would claim the point in this case if my opponent loses his hat, farts, looks funny or has a big nose. Neither would I demand a let when a dog barks, a cellular phone rings, someone closes a gate or other nonsense.
Ah, ok. So it does bother you that your opponent is in harms way. That's good. This is not what you said earlier though when you said a ball on your opponent's side can't possibly bother you. This is what I was taking issue with. I'm glad for it to not be the case.If the ball is in harms way I would most definitely call a let.
You seem to believe that if you are not distracted by a ball or hat on your opponent's court that no one should be.
Pros are distracted by people in the stands moving around. Or by the glint off of a fan's wristwatch, the flash of a camera. People who are truly focused on the point will be distracted. If they tell you they are distracted, you should believe them.
To follow on to Kyle's point, there is another issue.
Say a ball falls out of opponent's pocket. By the Code, you either have to call it immediately or not call it at all.
Say the ball falls out and you figure it isn't a threat because it is away from your opponent. The point continues, and opponent starts moving toward the ball. Now you are concerned about his safety, but you failed to call the let when you first noticed the ball.
Now, I would call the let anyway to protect my opponent from injury. If I did that, my opponent could rightfully claim I had no right to call the let because of the delay, so I would have to give up the point.
Rather than deal with all of that, I just call the let when the hat flies off or the ball falls out of the pocket. Then it is simple. We play a let that time, and subsequent times it will be loss of point.
See how simple things are if you just play by the Code?
What about old guys carrying two balls in their non hitting hand and then drop them in the middle of a point? :shock:
(I don't know why old men can't afford pockets anymore. Or is it a statement on social security?)
What about old guys carrying two balls in their non hitting hand and then drop them in the middle of a point? :shock:
(I don't know why old men can't afford pockets anymore. Or is it a statement on social security?)
Or my fav, the guys that second serve with the first ball lying on their service line (doesn't bother me) but then they kick it toward the net during play and I see two balls in motion.What about old guys carrying two balls in their non hitting hand and then drop them in the middle of a point? :shock:
(I don't know why old men can't afford pockets anymore. Or is it a statement on social security?)
I know some old school guys who carry balls in their hand... but they all have one-handed backhands and just keep holding the ball during the entire point!
From USTA:
Q. If a tennis ball falls out of your pocket during a point, what's the ruling? Is it a let or does the opposing get the point even though you have won the point?
A. If you are playing social or recreational tennis, then you should ALWAYS offer to play a let (or a “do-over”) when an extra ball falls from your pocket during a point. The same is true for when your hat falls off your head. Often enough, your opponent will indicate that it was not a distraction and allow the point played to stand.
In a tournament match where an official is present to call the lines, the umpire will always call a let in this circumstance. If it happens repeatedly, then the umpire can penalize the offending player by automatically awarding the point to the opposing player. This eliminates the possibility of gamesmanship.
Where did you find this? The last paragraph is wrong.
@woodrow - so is the last paragraph wrong or not?Here, it's the second question down on the page:
http://www.usta.com/Improve-Your-Game/Rules/Rules-and-Line-Calls/Let_Calls/
i thought loss of point, shouldn't be a let...
yet, a search revealed otherwise?
c'mon.
saw it happen in a close match (my team) and we called a let (they dropped the ball),
i thought we shoulda just won the point. bzzzzzt, wrong?