Best play by a pro, still resulting in a loss.

BTURNER

Legend
This thread is inspired by a post from the men's claycourter thread where best play from a loss was deemed 'strange'

Think of the occasions when a player/ champion played some their best, most inspired tennis for that you can recall, in a match, and still ended up second. Here is a couple.

Sabatini played the most awesome clay tennis I ever saw out of her, in a '92 RG semifinal vs Seles. Tactically it was as shrewd and effective a match as I ever saw , as a balance between aggression and patience. She kept her error rate down, and never gave Seles two shots that looked alike. She approached on spin and placement rather than power, cut angles down, then opened them up, moved and anticipated very well and had Seles completely exhausted, desperate and down 2-4 in the third. Just when Seles looked like death warmed, She blasted winners and ripped the win away. Sabatini did NOTHING wrong, and competed very well to the bitter end. But the victory was gone.

Poor Evert. She played so many great grasscourt matches with nothing much to show but admiration from crowd and opponent. If I had to pick the greatest grass play I ever saw by the Floridian, I'd pick that '87 semifinal vs Martina which she lost. The stats back this as one of the cleanest matches in tennis from a winner/error ratio. Martina was serving at a very high percentage throughout, volleying at her athletic best. Evert drove her with marvelous returns, lobs and passes, and deep groundstrokes. Evert would have beaten any other S/ver I ever saw play. Evert lost deep in the third. There was another semi like that w/ a Golden Racket Hana stealing a 2-5 set from her, but the stats don't objectively back me up .

Sometimes you do everything great, just the way you dreamed, but life just isn't fair.
 
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Gizo

Hall of Fame
Gerulaitis hit 74 winners during his semi-final defeat to Borg in one of the greatest matches ever played at Wimbledon in 1977.
 

BTURNER

Legend
Gerulaitis hit 74 winners during his semi-final defeat to Borg in one of the greatest matches ever played at Wimbledon in 1977.

Yeah he should have gotten a trophy for 74 winners vs the fastest man in the sport. Instead he's a footnote.
 

BobbyOne

G.O.A.T.
This thread is inspired by a post from the men's claycourter thread where best play from a loss was deemed 'strange'

Think of the occasions when a player/ champion played some their best, most inspired tennis for that you can recall, in a match, and still ended up second. Here is a couple.

Sabatini played the most awesome clay tennis I ever saw out of her, in a '92 RG semifinal vs Seles. Tactically it was as shrewd and effective a match as I ever saw , as a balance between aggression and patience. She kept her error rate down, and never gave Seles two shots that looked alike. She approached on spin and placement rather than power, cut angles down, then opened them up, moved and anticipated very well and had Seles completely exhausted, desperate and down 2-4 in the third. Just when Seles looked like death warmed, She blasted winners and ripped the win away. Sabatini did NOTHING wrong, and competed very well to the bitter end. But the victory was gone.

Poor Evert. She played so many great grasscourt matches with nothing much to show but admiration from crowd and opponent. If I had to pick the greatest grass play I ever saw by the Floridian, I'd pick that '87 semifinal vs Martina which she lost. The stats back this as one of the cleanest matches in tennis from a winner/error ratio. Martina was serving at a very high percentage throughout, volleying at her athletic best. Evert drove her with marvelous returns, lobs and passes, and deep groundstrokes. Evert would have beaten any other S/ver I ever saw play. Evert lost deep in the third. There was another semi like that w/ a Golden Racket Hana stealing a 2-5 set from her, but the stats don't objectively back me up .

Sometimes you do everything great, just the way you dreamed, but life just isn't fair.

Laver losing to Rosewall in the 1972 WCT finals in arguably the best match ever.
 

kiki

Banned
Mac against Lendl at the 1984 FO final.A pure talent exhibition.Too nice to last.

Becker agaisnt Sampras at the 96 Masters final.The best indoor match after the 1980´s.With no kind of doubt.
 

Phoenix1983

G.O.A.T.
Jennifer Capriati in the US Open semi-final 2003 vs. Justine Henin.

9 or 10 times, she stood 2 points away from winning the match, but Henin kept coming up with inspired play to deny her.

(Best women's match I've ever seen, IMHO...)
 

kiki

Banned
Jennifer Capriati in the US Open semi-final 2003 vs. Justine Henin.

9 or 10 times, she stood 2 points away from winning the match, but Henin kept coming up with inspired play to deny her.

(Best women's match I've ever seen, IMHO...)

Mandlikova vs Navratilova US Open final in 1985.The best women´s match of the last 30 yrs.
 

Chopin

Hall of Fame
Interesting that some of the posts don't address the OP...

Federer's play at the 2011 French Open was outstanding. He was in classic form in taking out the hottest player in tennis, Djokovic and came out of the gates red hot against Rafa, rushing to a 5-2 lead and a set point. When he was playing well in that match, he outplayed Rafa. Unfortunately, his confidence in the big moments evaporated. If he had won the first set, who know what would have happened.
 

Rusty669

Semi-Pro
Stefan Edberg lost to Michael Stich in the semis of Wimbledon in 1991 6-4,6-7,6-7,6-7 without getting broken once during the whole match!!
That's kind of tough and shows he must have played well...

Verdasco losing to Nadal at the Aussie Open 2009 also comes to mind
 

andreh

Professional
Stefan Edberg lost to Michael Stich in the semis of Wimbledon in 1991 6-4,6-7,6-7,6-7 without getting broken once during the whole match!!
That's kind of tough and shows he must have played well...

Verdasco losing to Nadal at the Aussie Open 2009 also comes to mind

Not so sure Edberg played that spectacularly well in that match as a whole. He obviously served well and it was grass so serves are tough to break in the first place. From what I remember he was sort of "not there" that day, especially in the breakers. He only broke Stich once and wasn't playing his service games as well as he could. I don't think one could say he played badly, he was just not in that awsome form he could be in.

I could be wrong, though. Haven't seen the match since it actually happened. Memories have a funny way of changing as they age.
 

robow7

Professional
Roddick vs Fed at the 2007 Open. Roddick played darn near perfect tennis for two sets and yet was down two after a pair of tough tiebreakers. Of course he got rolled in the third.
 

robow7

Professional
Stefan Edberg lost to Michael Stich in the semis of Wimbledon in 1991 6-4,6-7,6-7,6-7 without getting broken once during the whole match!!
That's kind of tough and shows he must have played well...

How did Jack Kramer say it, something like, "You'll never lose if you never lose your serve" Of course tie breaks weren't around back then to prove him wrong.
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
An obvious one is Becker against Sampras at the 1996 World Championships Final in Hanover.

How about Nadal against Garcia-Lopez at 2010 Bangkok? Nadal had 26 break points, but converted only 2. Garcia-Lopez had just 1 break point, which he took. Garcia-Lopez won 2-6, 7-6, 6-3.
 

90's Clay

Banned
Fed was awesome in Australia in 2005 vs. Safin. Safin was just a tad better.


Sampras was great in 2000 At the Australian as well vs. Agassi.
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
How about Nadal against Garcia-Lopez at 2010 Bangkok? Nadal had 26 break points, but converted only 2. Garcia-Lopez had just 1 break point, which he took. Garcia-Lopez won 2-6, 7-6, 6-3.

so you think nadal played really well in that match ?
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
apart from the ones already mentioned :

federer vs rafa - rome 06 F

rafa vs federer - wimbedon 07 F

el ayanoui vs roddick - AO 03 QF
 

granddog29

Banned
Nadal vs Djokovic 2012 Australian Open final
Nadal vs Djokovic 2011 U.S Open final
Sampras vs Agassi 2000 Australian Open semis
Nadal vs Federer 2007 Wimbledon final
Nadal vs Federer 2008 Wimbledon final

Capriati vs Henin 2003 U.S Open semis
Capriati vs Seles 2001 U.S Open semis
Capriati vs Serena 2002 French Open semis

Overall Capriati was pretty unlucky wasnt she. She won 3 slams but should have been alot more given her incredible talent, but kept losing amazing matches that could go either way to great champions.

Graf vs Seles 1993 Australian Open final
Graf vs Seles 1995 U.S Open final
 

galain

Hall of Fame
Lendl losing on a netcord to Becker in the Masters final back in the 80's is one of my favourites.
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
so you think nadal played really well in that match ?

Relative to his opponent, yes. Nadal failed to turn quantity into quality during the second and third sets, and failed to break. Garcia-Lopez took his only break point.
 

chuckd

New User
The one that always sticks out, in my mind, is Edberg v. Johnny Mac, Wiimbledon SF 1989. Edberg won in straights, but it was a great match. 7-5, 7-6, 7-6.
 

borgpro

Semi-Pro
Easy one: Vijay Amritraj against Borg on Wimbledon many years ago. Lost in 5. I remember the paper headings saying he was playing so heavenly good that he forgot to win.. But died in beautyness
Still on YouTube
 
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kiki

Banned
Easy one: Vijay Amritraj against Borg on Wimbledon many years ago. Lost in 5. I remember the paper headings saying he was playing so heavenly good that he forgot to win.. But died in beautyness
Still on YouTube

Amritraj always felt inspired at the AELTC.2 years after, he did right the same thing against Connors at the 1981 quarters.Vijay was a joy to watch when he felt like floating on court...
 

McLovin

Legend
Listening to ESPN2 coverage of Delpo/Hewitt match, and they mentioned two more matches of note:

Djokovic d Del Potro, 2013 Wimbledon
Federer d Del Potro, 2012 Olympics
 

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
1971 Tennis Champions Classic

(Laver defeated Tom Okker in straight sets on his way to winning 13 straight matches against the world's best without a loss to win the tournament.)

from the Fireside Book of Tennis, written by Fred J. Podesta:

"I feel I'm better prepared for this match than I was for our first, " said Tom Okker as he went out on the court to challenge Laver again.

And Okker was right. The young Dutchman played perhaps the finest tennis of his life. He had every shot, every move--but Laver had the answer to every shot, every move. It was, to that date, the greatest tennis Laver had played, and it was after this match that the grizzled veteran observer had said that maybe, just maybe, Tilden might have had a chance.

At one point, Okker caught Rod flat-footed in the forecourt but Laver, in desperation, raced backward, caught up with the ball, ran around it and put it away. Okker dropped his racket in astonishment and the spectators, even the umpire in the chair, howled in disbelief and admiration.

In the locker room, Okker declared flatly that he had played as well as he had ever had played, perhaps better than he had ever played, "but I was never even in the match, I couldn't believe some of those shots. He could believe them himself, " Okker moaned.

The date was February 6 in Madison Square Garden. The score was 6-1 6-4 6-3."
 
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BTURNER

Legend
Now some of you are getting it. it not about a very well played match. Its about someone's very best tennis still loosing to a better player. So when a player looses confidence or slips after sublime heights, they are not producing their very best tennis throughout the match.
 
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darrinbaker00

Professional
Now some of you are getting it. it not about a very well played match. Its about someone's very best tennis still loosing to a better player. So when a player looses confidence or slips after sublime heights, they are not producing their very best tennis throughout the match.

In that case, there can only be one answer: Roddick vs. Federer, 2009 Wimbledon final. Roddick had fewer unforced errors than Federer (25-33), broke Federer twice, and only lost his own serve once; unfortunately for Roddick, that one time was at 14-15 in the fifth set. Roddick could not have played better that day, and he still lost.
 
John McEnroe in the 1980 Wimbledon final . Andy Roddick in the 2009 Wimbledon final (although he was past his prime, he produced some great play).
 
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kiki

Banned
Jimmy Connors at Wimbledon 77? Ivan Lendl at FO 1981? Jan Kodes at Forest Hills 73? Ke Rosewall at Wimbledon 19780? Bjorn Borg at the 1980 US Open?
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
Jimmy Connors at Wimbledon 77? Ivan Lendl at FO 1981? Jan Kodes at Forest Hills 73? Ke Rosewall at Wimbledon 19780? Bjorn Borg at the 1980 US Open?

jimmy's would be USO 84 SF vs mac more than wim 77 vs borg ( though that was a pretty good match as well )

lendl at FO 81 - eh, don't think so , borg had him tired out by the 5th set, masters 88 vs becker easily over that, wimbledon 89 semi as well ..

borg at 1980 US open , agree ...

rosewall in wim 70 ? a tired rosewall, nah ! admirable fight, yes, but not his best level

kodes at FH 73, yes ....
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
Relative to his opponent, yes. Nadal failed to turn quantity into quality during the second and third sets, and failed to break. Garcia-Lopez took his only break point.

we're not talking relative to opponent. We're talking relative to what rafa was capable of. I don't think that match comes remotely close to qualifiying.

vs davydenko at doha 10 would be a much closer one than that. he played his absolute best in the first set and very well in the 2nd and 3rd sets
 

kiki

Banned
jimmy's would be USO 84 SF vs mac more than wim 77 vs borg ( though that was a pretty good match as well )

lendl at FO 81 - eh, don't think so , borg had him tired out by the 5th set, masters 88 vs becker easily over that, wimbledon 89 semi as well ..

borg at 1980 US open , agree ...

rosewall in wim 70 ? a tired rosewall, nah ! admirable fight, yes, but not his best level

kodes at FH 73, yes ....

I can agree with Connors at USO 84, that is right.Same 4 yrs before ( lost also to Mac but it was a semi)

Gerulaitis 1977 semi vs Borg and, his 1982 Masters final against Lendl.He played textbook tennis until he squandered that match point in the thirs set tie breaker.

Laver, past his prime, played against Borg a memorable WCT semifinal.Borg was tired enough ( if that was ever possible) the next day...
 

kiki

Banned
Connors vs Borg at the 1981 W tourney.The best match of the year and possibly the best match held at W during the 80´s ( along the 1980 final and the 1982 final)
 

BobbyOne

G.O.A.T.
This thread is inspired by a post from the men's claycourter thread where best play from a loss was deemed 'strange'

Think of the occasions when a player/ champion played some their best, most inspired tennis for that you can recall, in a match, and still ended up second. Here is a couple.

Sabatini played the most awesome clay tennis I ever saw out of her, in a '92 RG semifinal vs Seles. Tactically it was as shrewd and effective a match as I ever saw , as a balance between aggression and patience. She kept her error rate down, and never gave Seles two shots that looked alike. She approached on spin and placement rather than power, cut angles down, then opened them up, moved and anticipated very well and had Seles completely exhausted, desperate and down 2-4 in the third. Just when Seles looked like death warmed, She blasted winners and ripped the win away. Sabatini did NOTHING wrong, and competed very well to the bitter end. But the victory was gone.

Poor Evert. She played so many great grasscourt matches with nothing much to show but admiration from crowd and opponent. If I had to pick the greatest grass play I ever saw by the Floridian, I'd pick that '87 semifinal vs Martina which she lost. The stats back this as one of the cleanest matches in tennis from a winner/error ratio. Martina was serving at a very high percentage throughout, volleying at her athletic best. Evert drove her with marvelous returns, lobs and passes, and deep groundstrokes. Evert would have beaten any other S/ver I ever saw play. Evert lost deep in the third. There was another semi like that w/ a Golden Racket Hana stealing a 2-5 set from her, but the stats don't objectively back me up .

Sometimes you do everything great, just the way you dreamed, but life just isn't fair.

Arguably Rosewall's loss against Laver in the 1966 US Pro final in five sets. Bud Collins rates that match as the best of the countless L&R matches,
 

boredone3456

G.O.A.T.
A few for the ladies

Davenport vs Venus Wimbledon 2005
Mauresmo vs Serena Wimbledon 2004
Navratilova vs Austin US Open 1981
Vicario vs Graf 1996 French Open

I could probably name a few more if I really thought about it but those 4 all deserve mentioned .
 

kiki

Banned
A few for the ladies

Davenport vs Venus Wimbledon 2005
Mauresmo vs Serena Wimbledon 2004
Navratilova vs Austin US Open 1981
Vicario vs Graf 1996 French Open

I could probably name a few more if I really thought about it but those 4 all deserve mentioned .

Novotna against Graf at W 93
 

krosero

Legend
Now some of you are getting it. it not about a very well played match. Its about someone's very best tennis still loosing to a better player.
The classic example of this is Gottfried von Cramm losing to Don Budge in Davis Cup. Playing for his life, producing the match of his life, going up two sets on the best player in the world -- in the biggest tennis event of that time period -- and finally losing 8-6 in the fifth.

It's the sort of thing where a player is better remembered for one epic loss than for any of his victories.

I think that will be the case with the two examples I gave, Corretja and Verdasco. Over the long run they will be remembered most for how hard they pushed two alltime greats on the big stage: and for how hard they pushed themselves. I seriously doubt either of them ever produced better tennis when they won, as compared to what they did in those losses.
 

pc1

G.O.A.T.
Here's a match I've always been fascinated by. It was in the 1971 Tennis Champions Class in which Laver defeated Tom Okker in straight sets on his way to winning 13 straight without a loss to win the tournament.

Here's a description of the match from the Fireside Book of Tennis, written by Fred J. Podesta---"I feel I'm better prepared for this match than I was for our first, " said Tom Okker as he went out on the court to challenge Laver again.

And Okker was right. The young Dutchman played perhaps the finest tennis of his life. He had every shot, every move--but Laver had the answer to every shot, every move. It was, to that date, the greatest tennis Laver had played, and it was after this match that the grizzled veteran observer had said that maybe, just maybe, Tilden might have had a chance.

At one point, Okker caught Rod flat-footed in the forecourt but Laver, in desperation, raced backward, caught up with the ball, ran around it and put it away. Okker dropped his racket in astonishment and the spectators, even the umpire in the chair, howled in disbelief and admiration.

In the locker room, Okker declared flatly that he had played as well as he had ever had played, perhaps better than he had ever played, "but I was never even in the match, I couldn't believe some of those shots. He couldn't believe them himself, " Okker moaned.

The date was February 6 in Madison Square Garden. The score was 6-1 6-4 6-3. Laver's earnings were now $90,000.


Another possibility is the 1979 Wimbledon semi between Borg and Connors in which Borg crushed Connors in straight sets. Some have said Connors never played better but won only eight games. I'm not sure about that but Connors did play well imo.
 
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