Volkl Organix 7 (310g and 295g) TW Review
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The stiffness of 74 scares me. But the neon green paint on the 295 is beautiful.
racertempo
Semi-Pro
The reviews from TW are not complete yet, i sent an e-mail about a week and half ago about the broken link and they replied telling me that the reviews for the 7 were in the works and would be posted accordingly. I am looking forward to the 295 even with the ugly green paint job, like the specs there. A local shop owner here who specializes in Volkl will have demos at the end of next week and said the color in person is better than it seems. He said the Volkl warehouse was closed this past week for stoking and inventory and he should have the demos, so i plan on demoing the 295 and maybe even the 310 next weekend.
go Youtube
You can get to the video portion of the review by Chris thru TW's youtube channel. I guess the written portion is not yet ready so it's not on the website yet.
I'm also looking forward to the 295 version based on the specs, but the 74 stiffness ratings do scare me a bit too.
arnoldr
You can get to the video portion of the review by Chris thru TW's youtube channel. I guess the written portion is not yet ready so it's not on the website yet.
I'm also looking forward to the 295 version based on the specs, but the 74 stiffness ratings do scare me a bit too.
arnoldr
racertempo
Semi-Pro
Here is a link, thanks for the tip for the video review:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5DwNZrua-dkm9T9zj3IjNNp_xk4NaeDZ
I just wish they had 2-3 other players with different styles do a review as well, maybe they are working on that. Chris definitely seems like a Volkl fanboy with these reviews, but it was very very helpful and I cannot wait to try the 295 version. Actually, after that review I think I am already sold that it is the right frame that I am looking to compliment my new Steam S frame.
Timbo's hopeless slice
Hall of Fame
not to nit-pick or anything, but shouldn't the overall score in the 310 review be 83?
I added it up twice, lol
I added it up twice, lol
How is it going with the 7? Are you still liking it? Is it your go to stick from now on? I will get mine this Friday I hope,
Timbo's hopeless slice
Hall of Fame
Love it, loving tennis, playing well, sooo easy!!!
hard to see any negatives, i feel like a bit of a fool, really.
sort of reminds me of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation from Douglas Adams.
it is possible to be blinded to the limitations of mid size racquets by the sense of achievement one gets from getting them to work at all...
no wonder pretty much the entire pro tour have gone to mid pluses long ago..
hard to see any negatives, i feel like a bit of a fool, really.
sort of reminds me of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation from Douglas Adams.
it is possible to be blinded to the limitations of mid size racquets by the sense of achievement one gets from getting them to work at all...
no wonder pretty much the entire pro tour have gone to mid pluses long ago..
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"sort of reminds me of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation from Douglas Adams"
What do you mean by this? Does it refer to the "ease" that the X-7 gives to your game and its also an analogy to the techno instruments found in Syrious Cybernetics...?
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For those that have tried the 310 version ; does it feel stiff as hell as the rating suggest,or is it really comfortable as Chris says in the review ?
Tried another OS in the Blade 104 and that was a pleasant surprise,and this one got even better reviews,im just worried about the stiffness.
Tried another OS in the Blade 104 and that was a pleasant surprise,and this one got even better reviews,im just worried about the stiffness.
TW Staff
Administrator
The Overall Score is not an average of the previous scores. It is rather what the playtester's overall thoughts on the racquet were.
Brittany, TW
Hard to believe that Chris overall score would be less than the individual scores he gave to the racket, specifically when its related to a Volkl racket.
Timbo's hopeless slice
Hall of Fame
oh, you would need to have read the books, really.
it is a reference to a mythical corporation famous for making high tech stuff that was frustratingly complex and unreliable. I meant mid size frames remind me of them. ie, you can be so pleased to actually play a decent shot with them (because they are so demanding) that you forget you would have played that shot and a lot more with a larger frame..
to teh guy asking about stiffness : for me, very comfortable.
Today I was hitting with a 2003 Fischer racket, 102 head. 10.4 unstrung. Felt head heavy. I like it because I can just whip it around with strength and get nasty angles and massive spin. On serves it lacked a bit of mass maybe. No vibrations at all but felt nice and stiff.
So, maybe the X 7 is along this type of racket which you can use to crush the ball, get great pace, big sweetspot, no vibrations and light and maneuvarable to hit all night with it without that log feel of heavy, players rackets? And, do you think this extended length racket does not affect one handed backhand strokes?
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Timbo's hopeless slice
Hall of Fame
loving it.
I play with 1HBH btw, I can whip it around fine, very, very happy
I play with 1HBH btw, I can whip it around fine, very, very happy
It works great for both flat and spin OHBHs. It doesn't twist at all, and it feels really good on the arm and shoulder. A very surprising racquet for a 104 in head; big sweet-spot but plows thru like a mid-sized frame.
jonahnaturals
Rookie
loving it.
I play with 1HBH btw, I can whip it around fine, very, very happy
Hi Tim - your enthusiasm for the 310 has made me eager to try it.
I think I've read most of your posts on both new 7's. I understand that you haven't hit as much with your son's 295, but I am hoping that you can provide as much of a comparison as you can?
I also play with a one handed backhand and tend to enjoy 12 to 12.5 ounce frames for their plow through on slice and flat serves.
In your experience, do both 7's offer substantial plow through?
Could you please also indicate your strings and tension?
Thanks very much for sharing.
- Ben
ced
Professional
Don't worry ........
If you had not read it, you would never believe the 295 had an RA rating of 74 !!
Believe me it does not play like an overly stiff frame. It just plays well.
In the past I felt I had a sensitive elbow, but I've been using the 295 daily since March with no problem at all.
note: using a Prince EXO3 since Oct. I like the Prince, but do regret giving up on the Ox7, if you try one you will like it.
note#2: Back to the Ox7 (again), alternating it with the Qtour 295.
note #3 : now have a bag full of O7 295's
If you had not read it, you would never believe the 295 had an RA rating of 74 !!
Believe me it does not play like an overly stiff frame. It just plays well.
In the past I felt I had a sensitive elbow, but I've been using the 295 daily since March with no problem at all.
note: using a Prince EXO3 since Oct. I like the Prince, but do regret giving up on the Ox7, if you try one you will like it.
note#2: Back to the Ox7 (again), alternating it with the Qtour 295.
note #3 : now have a bag full of O7 295's
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Timbo's hopeless slice
Hall of Fame
Hi Ben
my enthusiasm for the X-7 is undimmed, although ElDiablo is correct in my quest for a Donnay.
THe 7s are brilliant frames for the modern player, especially strung with a full poly at around 55. I fully intend to continue using them for doubles.
Solid plow through, no problem there,
Personally, I find myself a little late with my BH DTL so I am moving sticks for singles..
jonahnaturals
Rookie
Thanks Tim, I appreciate you taking the time. Good luck with your testing of Donnay frames!
RiggensAuroraHO
Rookie
I found that the 310 has more if you hit flatter shots. If you hit with spin, the 295 has plenty of plow through, even without swinging faster, but it plays better when you swing fast, IMO.
jonahnaturals
Rookie
Thank you - that's helpful to know!
Timbo's hopeless slice
Hall of Fame
The Volkls have given me amazing performance, but I find I aim for areas of the court, approximations of where I want the ball to go. I then despatch said ball with enormous speed and spin, and it goes more or less where I intended and I usually end up winning the point.
so, I really should just keep using them...
so, I really should just keep using them...
jonahnaturals
Rookie
Here's a video review by some teaching pros in Japan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVqhpvBJh_Y
Wish there was a way to translate their commentary, though it's still helpful to see them taking both frames through all of their strokes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVqhpvBJh_Y
Wish there was a way to translate their commentary, though it's still helpful to see them taking both frames through all of their strokes.
jonahnaturals
Rookie
Hit with the Organix 7 295 tonight against a D3 college level player. Strung with a full bed of RPM @ 55/53.
Incredibly forgiving with the perfect amount of controllable power for me. Off the ground, I could hit with heavy top, flat, and underspin with easy power and precision.
Being as maneuverable and stable as it is, volleys were dialed in from the beginning - I even started coming in on my serve
I was able to hit my spots using flat, slice, and kick serves. The 24 mm beam wasn't anywhere as cumbersome as I thought it would be - I would even go as far as to say that I don't think I've ever served better with another frame. I couldn't generate the same amount of heat on flat serves as I can with heavy mid-size frames, but there was more than enough power on tap to get some free points on serve. I found myself hitting more kick serves into the body, as the large head and maneuverability allowed me to put a ton of action on the ball.
My opponent can bring the heat on his serve - in the 115-120 mph range. The X7 295 was more than stable and forgiving enough for me to consistently slice/block first serves back, and I had little trouble stepping in to take big cuts off both wings on second serves. There were a few nasty kick serves that I normally would have shanked, but they found their way into the court with the X7 - this is the very definition of forgiveness in my book.
I don't recall having picked up a frame and feeling like it could do it all for my skill level until now.
And for those of you who are worried about comfort level, I would never guess that the stiffness is rated 70+. I used a full bed of RPM and it felt super plush and comfortable the entire time without a twinge of discomfort anywhere.
Thanks Volkl!
Incredibly forgiving with the perfect amount of controllable power for me. Off the ground, I could hit with heavy top, flat, and underspin with easy power and precision.
Being as maneuverable and stable as it is, volleys were dialed in from the beginning - I even started coming in on my serve
I was able to hit my spots using flat, slice, and kick serves. The 24 mm beam wasn't anywhere as cumbersome as I thought it would be - I would even go as far as to say that I don't think I've ever served better with another frame. I couldn't generate the same amount of heat on flat serves as I can with heavy mid-size frames, but there was more than enough power on tap to get some free points on serve. I found myself hitting more kick serves into the body, as the large head and maneuverability allowed me to put a ton of action on the ball.
My opponent can bring the heat on his serve - in the 115-120 mph range. The X7 295 was more than stable and forgiving enough for me to consistently slice/block first serves back, and I had little trouble stepping in to take big cuts off both wings on second serves. There were a few nasty kick serves that I normally would have shanked, but they found their way into the court with the X7 - this is the very definition of forgiveness in my book.
I don't recall having picked up a frame and feeling like it could do it all for my skill level until now.
And for those of you who are worried about comfort level, I would never guess that the stiffness is rated 70+. I used a full bed of RPM and it felt super plush and comfortable the entire time without a twinge of discomfort anywhere.
Thanks Volkl!
RiggensAuroraHO
Rookie
"What's better is the cosmetics--if you're cool! If you hit with any bit of spin, the stick feels great. Health club decision to conclude any hour"
jonahnaturals
Rookie
Hear hear. Fingers crossed for a good outcome!
jonahnaturals
Rookie
I've figured out the main difference between the X8 315 and the X7 295 for me: Both provide excellent controllable power when hitting with spin, but the power from the X8 315 can sometimes feel trampolin-ish, while the X7 295's power feels more predictable.
Pneumated1
Hall of Fame
Hope you're doing well! It's a beautiful frame, for sure. Enjoy it!
jonahnaturals
Rookie
Thanks P1.
Lots to be grateful for, and yes, I've been surprised by how many people at our club have asked me about the frame. I prefer not to be noticed in any circle of life, but this frame really does attract people's attention - coaches and juniors alike. Hope things are well for you and that you're enjoying the V1 Pro.
CheekyMullet
New User
I'm really tempted to get the 310 version (can't demo). Right now I'm playing with a customized Yonex Vcore 100S - leather grip and 5 grams of lead tape on the hoop making it 335 grams and 5 points HL. X7 310 with leather grip and an overgrip should make the balance about same with a little more static weight.
How is the grip size on Volkls? The 100S I have is 4 1/4 but feels like wilsons 4 3/8.
How is the grip size on Volkls? The 100S I have is 4 1/4 but feels like wilsons 4 3/8.
microphage
Rookie
The volkl grip shape is more rectangular/oval shaped so I think u should go for the 4 1/4 just in case your grip is a semi western. I am demoing the x7 295 right now and it's fine at 4 3/8 but an over grip would be too much to handle. ( pun intended).
ced
Professional
I am surprised at the lack of talk about the X7 295 on these boards. I have also never seen on out on the courts anywhere. Chris Edwards gave it a pretty glowing review, but if you search for posts about it here, you just get a handful. No love for the X7-295
I personally believe the x7 295 is one of the best sticks that I've ever swung. The actual play is totally different than you would expect of a racquet having an RA rating of 74. The racquet has good power, great control and excellent feel when strung in the low 50's with a good multi. At least that was/is my impression of it. I did replace the grip with leather, to add a little weight and shift the balance a little HL.
In a really stupid move after 6 months or so I sold my X7's and moved on to something else. I've been sorry ever since. I'll probably return to them when the price drops in a year or so.
Note: as of 11/1/13 I picked up an Ox7, just couldn't resist a good deal.
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ced
Professional
Hi Jack,
I'm currently hitting a couple of Prince EXO3 98s. They play pretty well, but I have a ProKennex Qtour 295 that should arrive shortly. I had an original Ki Qtour, but found it to be a little heavy in the 3rd set.
The X7's I had were 295 and easily customized and easy to swing, I'm hoping the Qt295 will be the same. If not these Princes are a good fallback.
I had never hit any of the Prince O ports and just wanted to try them.
Jack, sine the prince, which I did like, I've hit with the Volkl Ox7 (310) and i didn't like it nearly as well as the 295, the Asics 109 which i liked , but could never get used to the head shape and now I'm BACK to the Ox7 (295) and expect to stay ther !!
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Timbo's hopeless slice
Hall of Fame
just a bit of an update.
my 14 year old son got the call to play for one of our club teams last night (at 4.5 level, no less!) so I had to take him down there at the last minute.
he wanted a warm up and we only had his sticks.
Gosh the x-7 310 is a beautiful frame!!!
that was all I wanted to say..
Oh, he won all his sets, two dubs and a singles, the opposition wasn't really ready for those kinds of groundstrokes, lol
my 14 year old son got the call to play for one of our club teams last night (at 4.5 level, no less!) so I had to take him down there at the last minute.
he wanted a warm up and we only had his sticks.
Gosh the x-7 310 is a beautiful frame!!!
that was all I wanted to say..
Oh, he won all his sets, two dubs and a singles, the opposition wasn't really ready for those kinds of groundstrokes, lol
A_Instead
Legend
Picked up 2 of the Green Machine 295. Having the X8 315 as my main stick. Hit with the X V1 and V1P.. I must say the X 295 is impressive. Yes.. It is a tad stiff, but I did compensate with lower tensions. The 104 head size doesnt get in the way. Its an easy hit. TW Chris's review is pretty much spot on...
JackB1
G.O.A.T.
How is the power level of the 295 to the V1 Mp?
MikeHitsHard93
Hall of Fame
I played the 310 and v1 sbs and the 310 had a lot more power, so I would assume the 295 does too. Super easy to use, I just didn't like the head shape. Killer cosmetic, no less!
ced
Professional
Way to go !! I don't think you will be sorry, I'm even getting used to the color.
RiggensAuroraHO
Rookie
"Only FOPs have an issue with the cosmetics. Anyone young enough to manage apps on an iPad with effortless speed finds the green cosmetics very 'hot'"
