Big USTA League Mixed Doubles Argument
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Gut4Tennis
Hall of Fame
report away. I know I'm not Tennis Tom. Hell I have a video of me playing, and he has one of him.
mikeler
Moderator
Mr.Lob
G.O.A.T.
I could care less, but your video could be of another player. Got any I.D?
McLovin
Legend
I can vouch that the video Gut4Tennis posted from his tournament in CA is of him playing. Why? Because once I saw the video I recognized him from tournaments in the Mid-Atlantic region.
Prior to seeing the video, I had no idea who Gut4Tennis (the poster) was.
Gut4Tennis
Hall of Fame
Ohhh no we have to keep the conspiracy going!!! Did I pay you to say that??
McLovin
Legend
tennis tom
Legend
Actually, me & gb are the same persons. When is this rain going to END?!?--this is the wettest DROUGHT I've ever seen, I'm getting RSI from all this keyboarding.
mikeler
Moderator
I smell a scandal!
tennis tom
Legend
I smell stinky sneakers.
Does anyone really know who they really are?
Anyhow, similar thing happened to me last night in a men's doubles. My partner hit a ball that looked clearly in. They didn't make a call, walked several steps, talked about it and then informed us it was out. I did say you have to make the call quickly and not discuss it. I also said I thought it was in but dropped it at that.
It appeared that one of them thought it might have been in but would not overrule the guy who made the call. The guy who made the call made 2 or 3 other bad calls. His partner thankfully overruled him on our set point when the bad caller guy was on the far side of the court and tried to call a screaming DTL pass by my partner out while his partner looking up the line (best view) called it in.
Anyhow, similar thing happened to me last night in a men's doubles. My partner hit a ball that looked clearly in. They didn't make a call, walked several steps, talked about it and then informed us it was out. I did say you have to make the call quickly and not discuss it. I also said I thought it was in but dropped it at that.
It appeared that one of them thought it might have been in but would not overrule the guy who made the call. The guy who made the call made 2 or 3 other bad calls. His partner thankfully overruled him on our set point when the bad caller guy was on the far side of the court and tried to call a screaming DTL pass by my partner out while his partner looking up the line (best view) called it in.
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tennis tom
Legend
That's a very existential question. Good post BTW, that's the way tennis is in the real world of the rec/leagues.
Cheers,
tt
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Gut4Tennis
Hall of Fame
A player shall make all calls promptly after the ball has hit the court.
Ohhh yeah!!!
If I stare at the area the ball bounced long enough(5 seconds or more) then I might find a past mark that I can say was where the ball landed.
That will make people really happy!!
Ohhh yeah!!!
If I stare at the area the ball bounced long enough(5 seconds or more) then I might find a past mark that I can say was where the ball landed.
That will make people really happy!!
mikeler
Moderator
I fight that battle every day with various sprays and other concoctions.
I can vouch for McLovin, don't know the OP.
tennis_ocd
Hall of Fame
Genuinely curious. Where is this in the rules? (I'm talking about a ball that ends a point; either by returner not reaching it or hitting it out.) What prevents one player, concentrating on the shot, from going to his partner to confirm his view?
Clearly not an ideal situation but the standard, as I understand it, is to determine if one player saw the ball clearly out; not claim a point by bullying a slow call.
schmke
Legend
But if one player saw it clearly out, they'd just call it immediately. No need for a discussion.
tennis_ocd
Hall of Fame
They should.... but my question is what rule demands an immediate, clear out or you lose the point?
tennis tom
Legend
A running foot doctor told me to have two pairs of shoes, rotate them every other day and wash them once a month. KIWI makes a nice compact spray that I carry in my bag called FRESH FORCE SHOE FRESHENER that works well and is fun to use. It could also be used to spray into the eyes of opponents who make bad calls to help them see better.
tennis tom
Legend
In the interest of FAIRNESS, it's ok to ask others with a better angle how they saw the ball--even asking your opponent's opinion. This does not have to take long. A glance at your partner for a confirmation, or "Did you see that out too?", or asking an opponent who had a direct view down the line. I would respect that kind of delay in the interest of making the correct call. It's the "no calls" where it's like a committee meeting going on for hours that are suspect. Good players just want the right call and no charity or cheating.
Topaz
Legend
Long lost brothers???
I have seen McLovin.
I have seen Gut4Tennis.
I have not seen them in the same place at the same time!
:shock:
Gut4Tennis
Hall of Fame
how dare you stir the pot!!
Cindysphinx
G.O.A.T.
If you ask your opponent whether it was in or out, you have to accept their opinion.
tennis tom
Legend
If you don't trust them don't ask them. Benefit of the doubt goes to the opponent(s).
Good advice.
When my kid's Keen sandals started stinking after less than half a summer of wear, I called them up to clarify if they had some sort of anti-microbrial treatment on them. The Keen rep told me they stopped using a treatment because it didn't do much and then recommended that I wash them, let them dry, then wipe down the sandals with a 50-50 solution of tea tree oil and water. I did, and that seemed to work well not just on those Keens, but on several other pairs of sandals I had that had gotten funky.
If my opponent hit what appeared to me to be an ace and then overruled my call and said his/her own serve was wide, I would appreciate his/her candor and say thanks for the good sportspersonship, not make a cheating or ignorance accusation as Blake seems to advocate. I wonder if several of the threads in this forum complaining about "that guy" have actually been about Blake?
From my personal experience, contrary to the gender stereotype that males are the ultra-competitive ones, most of the several people I have found to be cheaters on line calls have, as in the OP's example, been women. Anyone else notice this too, or are we talking about too limited of a sample size to be representative and reliable?
Gut4Tennis
Hall of Fame
yessssssssssssssssssssssssss
Spin Doctor
Professional
I notice when merging in traffic that women are far less inclined to wave someone in, like it's some kind of competition. Do you think this is a related psychosis?
Spin Doctor
Professional
Yes. I like controversial threads.:twisted:
Gut4Tennis
Hall of Fame
Its only anyone(m or f ) in a Prius, as they have Napoleon syndrome
tennis tom
Legend
There was a funny Prius on my commute tonight, he was driving aggressively, tailgating and had black spoke wheels like a cool car would. It was amusing, never seen a Prius make an attempt to be tricked out. They're dangerous, you can't hear them, they run into a lot of blind people. Politicians are passing laws to make them have sound tracks like SRT Vipers.
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tennis tom
Legend
Be nice to the ladies, there aren't many of them around here, don't scare them away.
McLovin
Legend
Well, I believe we also share the same hair stylist...
Topaz
Legend
How have I not been nice to the ladies? Especially since I am one!
Topaz
Legend
The plot thickens!!!!
tennis tom
Legend
Sorry
, I know that, I wasn't referring to you, it was for the gents. You're one of the endangered species. It's the interwebs, sometimes I wish I had an editor.
mikeler
Moderator
Can you pass along the phone number for your hair stylist for when I travel up there?
dcdoorknob
Hall of Fame
I mean it's off the original topic but whatever...
If you've known you needed to merge for 2 miles but decided not to even try and just expect to go right up until the barrels are forcing you to merge and then have me let you in without you even having to slow down, well sorry, not happening.
And I'm a guy, if that has any bearing on the weird stereotype that I hadn't even heard before.
If you've known you needed to merge for 2 miles but decided not to even try and just expect to go right up until the barrels are forcing you to merge and then have me let you in without you even having to slow down, well sorry, not happening.
And I'm a guy, if that has any bearing on the weird stereotype that I hadn't even heard before.
Gut4Tennis
Hall of Fame
mikeler
Moderator
Spin Doctor
Professional
I wouldn't have to go right up to the barrels if the female drivers hadn't blocked me out for 2 miles!! It's not just females though. I find old people (i.e. over 30) are miserly mergers as well.
Gut4Tennis
Hall of Fame
just in time as pot will be legal. just smoke up and let the car drive ya
great. and when a popup ad appears on the windshield and the car slows down to 10 mph on the highway due to diverted resources, we will all be in paradise!
Gut4Tennis
Hall of Fame
but you'll be watching porn, playing a video game or posting on TT chat so you wont even notice the commercial...but there will be no slowing down
Topaz
Legend
Sorry
There is an edit button! I know, I use it a lot!
No problem. He is Moroccan and he is fabulous!
His name is Ray Zor
Yeah, I'm pretty much the exact opposite of that!
(except for the facial hair). :twisted:
