G A S
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like he's only trying to get attention? could be, yeah.
Kyrgios is a disgrace to Tennis
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he seems to go further in tournaments named Wimbledon than the mighty GOAT.
Serve&Bash
Semi-Pro
Brah..are you serious? You said that you are a Roddick fan on the last page? You now look like a massive hypocrite. I have yet to see Kyrgios disrespect umpires and opponents the way Roddick did.
If Kyrgios starts yelling "I'm giving you a warning!" and "FU*CK YOU!!!" at umpires, I will reconsider this. I have seen Roddick do both, unfortunately.
Russeljones
Talk Tennis Guru
A rant is fine. A sanctimonious tirade admonishing a very young athlete? R i d i c u l o u s !
accidental
Hall of Fame
I don't hold it against him for saying that. Most of us don't end up doing what we dream about for a living, but end up doing something we are good at and can make money from.
With him he probably wasn't anywhere near as good at basketball as he was at tennis, despite basketball being what he loves. For all his arrogance it doesn't seem like he doesn't work hard to me.
Pretty sure a few players have made similar statements in the past. Youzhny comes to mind as one
With him he probably wasn't anywhere near as good at basketball as he was at tennis, despite basketball being what he loves. For all his arrogance it doesn't seem like he doesn't work hard to me.
Pretty sure a few players have made similar statements in the past. Youzhny comes to mind as one
junior74
Talk Tennis Guru
The disgrace for tennis is all the young talents that CAN'T win against top players. Kyrgios has shown that he can! His manners are annoying, but they will take a more mature form soon enough, and he has already established himself as a real contender against any player.
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
Sounds like a bit of jealousy from you, OP. That he whinges about not liking tennis, dreams of playing NBA, but still makes a very great living off tennis. Not sure how it's disrespectful to not really like the sport you play, while interested in another.
But seeing the emotions Kyrgios had in the Raonic match, makes he believe he really wants it. I'm not to sure if he actually believes he dislikes tennis. His on court rants are another thing entirely. Entertaining and great to watch, I want him at the top of the game.
But seeing the emotions Kyrgios had in the Raonic match, makes he believe he really wants it. I'm not to sure if he actually believes he dislikes tennis. His on court rants are another thing entirely. Entertaining and great to watch, I want him at the top of the game.
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King Fed WW
Guest
What he is doing right now is a disgrace to tennis and Wimbledon.
Just disgusting to not make any attempt to return a serve.
If it is only temporary and actually a tactical tank then I'll give him a pass.
Just disgusting to not make any attempt to return a serve.
If it is only temporary and actually a tactical tank then I'll give him a pass.
falstaff78
Hall of Fame
Kyrgios just lost two points on Gasquet's serve, by not trying at all. Didn't move his feet and disinterestedly wafted at the ball. The entire crowd booed. The commentators struggled to explain it. They said "you can be box office, you can be a star, you can be a character, but you can't tank"
Disgusting behaviour.
I'd like to hear some Kyrgios apologists explain this!
Disgusting behaviour.
I'd like to hear some Kyrgios apologists explain this!
Murrayjuannow
Banned
And Tennis Australia wants this clown to play DC. Young Aussies are too spoilt. TA gives them money, not direction.
torpantennis
Legend
Kyrgios is trying to find that free-flowing mode by hurrying his serving etc. He plays his best in that free-flow mental state. He is NOT a fighter though. I think he will struggle a lot in the future with trying to survive on these off-days.
DRII
G.O.A.T.
mightyrick
Legend
I've seen Fognini do this on several occastions. I've seen Monfils do it before. It's not great sportsmanship, but honestly, who cares? I personally don't like a lot of Kyrgios' antics, but I do like his raw, unfiltered expression. He isn't a bad person, he's just young, unfiltered, and expressive.
People can say what they want about the guy, but he is at least genuine.
The_Racketeer
Professional
I'm sure Nick been playing tennis all of his life and for hours and hours every day. He was pushed by his parents and at a young 20, tennis has been his life for probably 15 years. I can easily see a man watching LeBron playing ball on tv and thinking, "that looks like way more fun. A team sport, all that showmanship, and no 7 day weeks in the sun, alone hitting forehand after forehand."
You have to enjoy something a fair amount though to succeed like he is. His showmanship and playing the crowd is just his way of emulating the basketball players he likes to watch.
You have to enjoy something a fair amount though to succeed like he is. His showmanship and playing the crowd is just his way of emulating the basketball players he likes to watch.
mightyrick
Legend
I think this is actually pretty accurate. Although, James and any other NBA player also spends hours every day playing basketball, shooting jumpshots, running drills... over and over again. In the end, you're just putting a ball in a hoop. But the nice thing about basketball is that on court personalities are allowed to run free. In fact, it is one of the greatest things about the sport. Since it isn't a sport that comes from England, it doesn't have the snooty, aristocratic heritage. It is a sport from the common people.
Regardless, Kyrgios' tanking on points would not give him success in any sport -- let alone basketball. In basketball, the swings between momentum come so fast that you cannot afford to have an emotional breakdown where you tank and don't even bother playing defense or covering the floor. In tennis it loses you a couple of points. In basketball, that can easily lose you the game.
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Deleted member 688153
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Yes.'its different with Mac and Connors'
... oh, you mean they were caucasion
Everything is about race.
Whenever one criticizes someone who is not white, it's only because of their race.
Any and all criticism of someone who happens to be non-white, non-male, or non-hetero is discrimination.
Also, on an unrelated note, spelling, grammar, and punctuation are all things.
I ask only that you recognize this.
No, not trying on the court is disrespect - he's a wanna-be soul-brother who wants to be in the rap-NBA scene. I hope he leaves tennis.
DRII
G.O.A.T.
how about you recognize this is a message board, a discussion forum. the point being discussion! not punctuation and proper prose construction!
spelling and grammar queens like yourself represent the biggest waste of space and characters on any forum.
obviously you got my point, hence your myopic, apathetic, and sarcastic reply. i suggest you look and try your best to decipher (although i realize this is hard for someone who lacks empathy and never deals with wholesale discrimination themselves) racial/near racists posts/phrases in this and other threads about N.K.! such as "he's a wanna-be 'soul brother'...rap-NBA scene", or thug, brown **** on my shoe, and many others.
open your eyes and pay attention to context as much as you seemingly do to commas
torpantennis
Legend
LOL, this thread just shows up the real truth of many individuals. They are filled with HATE, they spread out HATE all around them, most all the energy they give out is HATE, and they make the society full of HATE. What a disgrace, for the whole of human race!
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Deleted member 688153
Guest
Kyrgios' poor attitude has nothing to do with race, absolutely nothing.how about you recognize this is a message board, a discussion forum. the point being discussion! not punctuation and proper prose construction!
spelling and grammar queens like yourself represent the biggest waste of space and characters on any forum.
obviously you got my point, hence your myopic, apathetic, and sarcastic reply. i suggest you look and try your best to decipher (although i realize this is hard for someone who lacks empathy and never deals with wholesale discrimination themselves) racial/near racists posts/phrases in this and other threads about N.K.! such as "he's a wanna-be 'soul brother'...rap-NBA scene", or thug, brown **** on my shoe, and many others.
open your eyes and pay attention to context as much as you seemingly do to commas
No-one here is suggesting it does either, I have read the thread over.
hoodjem
G.O.A.T.
ArcspacE
G.O.A.T.
LULzhow about you recognize this is a message board, a discussion forum. the point being discussion! not punctuation and proper prose construction!
spelling and grammar queens like yourself represent the biggest waste of space and characters on any forum.
obviously you got my point, hence your myopic, apathetic, and sarcastic reply. i suggest you look and try your best to decipher (although i realize this is hard for someone who lacks empathy and never deals with wholesale discrimination themselves) racial/near racists posts/phrases in this and other threads about N.K.! such as "he's a wanna-be 'soul brother'...rap-NBA scene", or thug, brown **** on my shoe, and many others.
open your eyes and pay attention to context as much as you seemingly do to commas
DRII
G.O.A.T.
you continue to be blind or play dumb!
and i'm not referring to N.K's 'poor attitude', but the reaction to it from some vs reactions to players with similar if not worse attitudes/actions throughout their careers!
If you don’t know, ask somebody
hoodjem
G.O.A.T.
Grammar and context are not mutually exclusive.how about you recognize this is a message board, a discussion forum. the point being discussion! not punctuation and proper prose construction!
spelling and grammar queens like yourself represent the biggest waste of space and characters on any forum.
obviously you got my point, hence your myopic, apathetic, and sarcastic reply. i suggest you look and try your best to decipher (although i realize this is hard for someone who lacks empathy and never deals with wholesale discrimination themselves) racial/near racists posts/phrases in this and other threads about N.K.! such as "he's a wanna-be 'soul brother'...rap-NBA scene", or thug, brown **** on my shoe, and many others.
open your eyes and pay attention to context as much as you seemingly do to commas
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Deleted member 688153
Guest
I forgive McEnroe and Connors (to an extent) because they were champions who proved themselves and weren't just a brats with no achievements.you continue to be blind or play dumb!
and i'm not referring to N.K's 'poor attitude', but the reaction to it from some vs reactions to players with similar if not worse attitudes/actions throughout their careers!
If you don’t know, ask somebody
Not because they are white.
Like, how does that even come into it?
I'm pretty sure the same people who dislike Kyrgios also dislike Tomic.
coolschreiber
Hall of Fame
Kyrgios is good for tennis in my opinion , makes things lively. I enjoy his antics.
, makes things lively. I enjoy his antics.
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Deleted member 688153
Guest
But I think they were, overall, good for the sport, as they contributed more than they harmed.
Kyrgios hasn't done any contributing yet.
DRII
G.O.A.T.
even accepting your premise, that its ok for them because they were succesful, you haven't given N.K. enough time to show his success.
actually he's already shown alot of promise compared to his top peers. he's defeated former #1s and made it to the 1/4s of slams as a teen.
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Deleted member 688153
Guest
That is true.
I've said before though that if he starts contributing more (winning), and maybe matures a little too, which will probably happen, then I will be able to tolerate him more.
It's all about overall contribution.
Murrayjuannow
Banned
Kyrgios should be chucked out of DC team for cursing and tanking, lol.
Wilander Fan
Hall of Fame
you continue to be blind or play dumb!
and i'm not referring to N.K's 'poor attitude', but the reaction to it from some vs reactions to players with similar if not worse attitudes/actions throughout their careers!
If you don’t know, ask somebody
Connors, McEnroe etc...they were arguing line calls because there was no Hawkeye back then. You can still see now in every match there are some bad calls but they get challenged. Also, both those particular guys went for lines so it was a good tactic for them to keep the umpire and the lines people at attention.
Really, there is no excuse for getting into it with the chair anymore. Maybe those rare calls whether to replay a point or give a point...and Nadal and his time violations...but that is it. Krgios arguing with every chair umpire is idiotic.
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Nathaniel_Near
Guest
Kyrgios is the pride of Malaysia, but all commentators ever comment on is his Greek and Australian origin. Pure racism.
Kyrgios has a wonderful and beautiful mother.
Take a moment to grant her your blessings.
The pride of Malaysia is the future of Asian tennis. Adje.
Kyrgios has a wonderful and beautiful mother.
Take a moment to grant her your blessings.
The pride of Malaysia is the future of Asian tennis. Adje.
Russeljones
Talk Tennis Guru
I love the fact that she stuck to wooden frames. It shows her passion for the history of the game. Lovely woman.Kyrgios is the pride of Malaysia, but all commentators ever comment on is his Greek and Australian origin. Pure racism.
Kyrgios has a wonderful and beautiful mother.
Take a moment to grant her your blessings.
The pride of Malaysia is the future of Asian tennis. Adje.
Inanimate_object
Hall of Fame
That's not at all consistent with your previous arguments. In such a case, Kyrgios' could start beating women, but if he won 18 slams he would be "good for the sport". Your problem is with his behaviour, and you sidestep the fact that such logic would lead one to indict the champions of attitude in McEnroe and Connors.
FD3S
Hall of Fame
I laughed out loud when I saw those couple of points. I mean, tanking in tennis (whether it be strategic or not) is a thing, and not likely to go away soon. I think that's the first time I've seen someone be so blatant about it though; normally there's an effort made to at least camouflage it, but that's not the way Kyrgios rolls.
Shine on, you controversial diamond.
Shine on, you controversial diamond.
Complete Trash
Rookie
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/inde...0-000-fine-after-appearing-to-give-up.537612/
Go on guys, embrace you golden boy.
Go on guys, embrace you golden boy.
AngieB
Banned
Murrayjuannow
Banned
....and syphilis......
Rubens
Hall of Fame
People need to realize that villains make the sport more exciting to watch. For example,
, today, most of us were on the edge of our seats during the whole match, and his defeat was thoroughly enjoyable. And then the fun extended into our post-match discussions, which consisted of gleefully crapping on him. When was the last time we had such a good time watching a 4th round match?
Complete Trash
Rookie
I don't think being a villain is bad. I just think he doesn't deserve to be there if he does not love tennis AND would rather play basketball
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Deleted member 688153
Guest
Yes, criminal assault is entirely on the same level as swearing.
Inanimate_object
Hall of Fame
An extreme example to illustrate how you are conveniently sidestepping implications of your own arguments. You are saying Kyrgios has bad behaviour, and this makes him a bad player and bad for the sport. However, you then realize the folly of labelling the most important tennis player in history as a player who was bad for the sport so then conveniently add some random caveat that you can have bad behaviour but as long as you win you are good for the sport. That's rather forced and illogical.
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Deleted member 688153
Guest
I see what you're getting at, but I have consistently maintained that my chief objection to cockiness and poor behaviour is when it's done by players who haven't "earned" the right to any latitude.
No player should behave badly, but yeah, where players have otherwise contributed enormously to the sport, I am willing to cut them some slack.
This may become true for Nick in the future too, but right now, he is arrogant with no justification.
Inanimate_object
Hall of Fame
No one "earns the right" to behave better or worse - that's completely ridiculous. Those who watched tennis prior to the 21st century know that Connors was angry long before he was successful. And McEnroe was McEnroe long before he was a champion. That didn't change when they won titles. So was Connors bad for the sport then became good for the sport? Nonsense. His personality made him good for the sport, just as Kyrgios' personality is good for the sport now. It's a kick in the balls to the fans who have only ever known this generation of players. When there's a new player on the block that can actually evoke emotions from fans whatever they may be, most will always go into anaphylactic shock as to how someone would dare disturb them from their day-dream. But Kyrgios isn't especially controversial or especially rude. He's nothing new at all. We just haven't seen him for a while.
