Roger Federer reflects on Novak Djokovic's 'exceptional year'

Hitman

Bionic Poster
That's not the same thing. A CYGS is a progression from one Slam to the next. Once you lose at one of them, the progression is over. You can't just say he was one Slam away because if he had won the one Slam, you don't know if he would have won the other two.

The words Calendar Year says it all.
 

RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
Lol im so glad Medvedev cut the Ultronian extension cord. Yall have to result to this kind of logic now :D ill take it any day over what yall have saved in drafts :cool:

I bet you are not to too glad about the RG result rofl! :D that's what it boils down to in the end. Nadal cannot hide behind what other players did against Djokovic. He got taken to the cleaners at his pet slam and secured a double career slam for Djoker hehe :)

The tune was very different last year after RG. Look where things are now :)
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
Lol im so glad Medvedev cut the Ultronian extension cord. Yall have to result to this kind of logic now :D ill take it any day over what yall have saved in drafts :cool: "But but.... Unbeatable dal' was in may instead of September" :whistle:

So you jumped from Federer was 1 set short of the CYGS that I'm so glad Medvedev cut the Utronian extension cord? :laughing: You're gonna have to troll harder to kill that Ultronian high. Even without the CYGS, Novak still has the best career of anyone in the Open Era. So will you take that any day as well? :unsure: Lol
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
I bet you are not to too glad about the RG result rofl! :D that's what it boils down to in the end. Nadal cannot hide behind what other players did against Djokovic. He got taken to the cleaners at his pet slam and secured a double career slam for Djoker hehe :)

The tune was very different last year after RG. Look where things are now :)

RG? Against footdal? Lmao :cool: quote me when Djokovic can win more than 3 USO titles :D
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
So you jumped from Federer was 1 set short of the CYGS that I'm so glad Medvedev cut the Utronian extension cord? :laughing: You're gonna gave to troll harder to kill that Ultronian high. Even without the CYGS, Novak still has the best career of anyone in the Open Era. So will you take rhat any day as well? :unsure: Lol

Yes, you seem very satisfied! ;) so am I :-D
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
Fed was 1 slam away as was Novak. One may have had more pressure that the other but the facts don’t change.

Federer was one Slam away from a non calendar one yes but Novak won it. It's not the same, no matter how you spin it.
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
And Djokovic was 1 match away the same way Federer was 1 match away and it IS the same no matter how you spin it :cool:

If it was the same, then Federer would have went into the USO with hype surrounding him trying to make history of winning all 4 in one year, being asked about it in every match, etc.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
If it was the same, then Federer would have went into the USO with hype surrounding him trying to make history of winning all 4 in one year, being asked about it in every match, etc.

The funny thing is Fed was a set closer lol. I mean if you REALLY care about being right then ok, Djokovics fail was indeed far more delicious :giggle:
 

RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
RG? Against footdal? Lmao :cool: quote me when Djokovic can win more than 3 USO titles :D

Nadal was totally fine till the end of fourth set. He was running around the court like a rabbit and vamosing as well as the rounds prior. Unlucky he had to face Djokovic to be honest. ;)

You can boast about one Djokovic loss however much you want but the fact still remains that Nadal is the one who answers to Djokovic cause they are rivals in the grand scheme of things, and Nadal got put down big time at his own castle. That's what matters the most here bud. You can use other players beating djokovic, but you won't ever be able to escape what happened at june 11 this year haha :D.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Nadal was totally fine till the end of fourth set. He was running around the court like a rabbit and vamosing as well as the rounds prior. Unlucky he had to face Djokovic to be honest. ;)

You can boast about one Djokovic loss however much you want but the fact still remains that Nadal is the one who answers to Djokovic cause they are rivals in the grand scheme of things, and Nadal got put down big time at his own castle. That's what matters the most here bud. You can use other players beating djokovic, but you won't ever be able to escape what happened at june 11 this year haha :D.

How will I ever deal with these 13 FOs and 7-2 record (in which the losses are literally Nadal's 2 worst clay seasons) plz help me cope! :giggle: Djokovic had to win 3 slams while Rafa sat out 3/4ths of the year just to get to where Federer and Nadal are and still fail :love:


Shout-out to abs, swag and chains too ;)
 

GabeT

G.O.A.T.
Even with the convoluted trolling I see here (and kudos for the inventive arguments!) where winning 3 slams in any order in a year is the same in terms of winning the CYGS Novak still remains ahead


Novak and Fed both had three 3-slam seasons. Nadal only one. So both are ahead there

But Novak came closer more times than Fed. Fed, in his 3-slam seasons, reached 2 finals and one 3R in the slams he lost. Novak reached 2 finals and one SF.

Remember kids, Novak always is ahead! ;)
 

Sunny014

Legend
He knows it was an insane year, though I don't agree with his statement that he and Nadal were extremely close, both never won the first two slams of the year and dealt with the mental pressure that came with each subsequent slam. Novak is the only one who got close.

Yes Federer especially and Nadal once got very close to a NCYGS, or simply 4 in a row, but even there, Novak has done that.


You and rest of your gang need to understand SIMPLE FACTS.

You do not need to win first slam of the year to hold 4 slams together, terms like CYGS, NCYGS are all terms coined by nerds, in reality holding all 4 slams is same as holding 4 slams in a calender year and also 3 slam year = 3 slam year, doesn't matter if they you lost AO and won rest 3 or you won first 3 and then lost USO
 

RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
But I get it, the desperation of other players beating Djokovic in one match when you've won 3 slams and secured a DCGS is one helluva great coping mechanism for Nadal fans but it's really quite weird to openly mention it like this when the guy you are fanboying over got pounded and secured a GOAT career for his biggest rival lelz :)
 

imonfire

Rookie
Federer is never going to go with the definition that he was not close because he lost RG in the middle of the season, he just doesn't see it that way.

He can be arrogant, much less so now than back when he was younger, but he has earned the right to focus on what he accomplished over what he did not, same as with Djokovic and Nadal.

Back on the main topic: from the looks of it, he is not coming back before the grass season next year, right? He talks about a goal being to be ready for Laver Cup 2022, which is so far away... :cry:
 

Sunny014

Legend
Federer is the only person to have 3 years when he made finals of all 4 slams.

Second best is Laver in 69 and Novak in 2015 and 2021

So Federer came close 3 times and Novak just 2 times
 

Turning Pro

Hall of Fame
If anyone says ncgs is the same as the CYGS, you might as well say the career grand slam is the same as they've won on all surfaces/slams across a non-strict criteria. You can't gave it both ways.

NOTHING matches CYGS And that's why only Laver has done it in 52 years.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
But I get it, the desperation of other players beating Djokovic in one match when you've won 3 slams and secured a DCGS is one helluva great coping mechanism for Nadal fans but it's really quite weird to openly mention it like this when the guy you are fanboying over got pounded and secured a GOAT career for his biggest rival lelz :)

Yessss focus on what you DID get :D everything but what you REALLY needed :giggle:
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
You and rest of your gang need to understand SIMPLE FACTS.

You do not need to win first slam of the year to hold 4 slams together, terms like CYGS, NCYGS are all terms coined by nerds, in reality holding all 4 slams is same as holding 4 slams in a calender year and also 3 slam year = 3 slam year, doesn't matter if they you lost AO and won rest 3 or you won first 3 and then lost USO

Gang?

Lol
 

Sunny014

Legend
Had Nadal been born in 1992 instead of 1986 then 19 year old Nadal would have arrived in 2011

So you can imagine what Nadal would Novak be facing in 2015 and 2021, it would be 23 yr old Nadal and 29 year old Nadal

Novak would never have come close to any CYGS ever
 

RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
How will I ever deal with these 13 FOs and 7-2 record (in which the losses are literally Nadal's 2 worst clay seasons) plz help me cope! :giggle: Djokovic had to win 3 slams while Rafa sat out 3/4ths of the year just to get to where Federer and Nadal are and still fail :love:


Shout-out to abs, swag and chains too ;)

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Roflmao, this is what it boils down to in the end and why you are behaving like this, and you know it.

Nadal OUT
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
What he REALLY needed was to stop Nadal from winning At FO. Novak was at 17 and Nadal at 20 at the beginning of the year. Everyone expected 21 for Nadal this year (at minimum).


and he did it! ;)

I can't express how much I wish this mattered anywhere near how much Ultronians need it to lol. 2-7 record, you tell me whos clinging to something? :cool: you wanna be posting about September but you're still forced to cling to June :love:
 

GabeT

G.O.A.T.
I can't express how much I wish this mattered anywhere near how much Ultronians need it to lol. 2-7 record, you tell me whos clinging to something? :cool: you wanna be posting about September but you're still forced to cling to June :love:
But no one claims Novak is greater than Nadal at the FO. What matters is that he stopped #21 (maybe forever?) and won #19 And the DCGS. I’ll take that any day!
 
Classy comments as expected from Federer. And it's true that winning 3 of 4 consecutive majors is an incredible achivement.

But when we are talking about single season achievements, @NoleFam is right. Winning three majors CONSECUTIVELY and everything coming down to a pressure cooker final match in New York is different to winning 3 of 4 majors non-consecutively in a single season.

Even though Novak didnt win the GS this year we should still be looking upon this as one of the most special seasons ever.

It's crazy how many times he walked the tightrope in big matches and the fact that this run included the victory against Nadal in Paris. It was mental acrobatics from start to finish with this guy Djokovic and he really only showed how much mental burden he was carrying right at the end.
 

topher

Hall of Fame
There is nothing saying that one has to be exclusive of the other here. But he even mentioned it a few times that he is tired of talking about the CYGS, even cut Patrick McEnroe off on the on court interview. It was clearly weighing on his mind, not denying other factors did not play a part.

I think all of you Novak fans are missing Fed’s point here with your need to pump your boy up.

Fed’s point is that they’ve all 3 shown the capability to do it by winning 3/4 slams, and therefore someone in the future could be luckier than they’ve been and pull it off. Novak may have been the only one technically close and experienced the mental pressure of that final push (although Fedal would’ve experienced even more media/fan attention imo), but from an ability standpoint they’ve all 3 been at that level.

In the end Novak won’t be able to put *almost* pulled the CYGS off on his GOAT resume anymore than Fedal will, no one really cares how close you came besides your fans.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
I think all of you Novak fans are missing Fed’s point here with your need to pump your boy up.

Fed’s point is that they’ve all 3 shown the capability to do it by winning 3/4 slams, and therefore someone in the future could be luckier than they’ve been and pull it off. Novak may have been the only one technically close and experienced the mental pressure of that final push (although Fedal would’ve experienced even more media/fan attention imo), but from an ability standpoint they’ve all 3 been at that level.

In the end Novak won’t be able to put *almost* pulled the CYGS off on his GOAT resume anymore than Fedal will, no one really cares how close you came besides your fans.

You better drop that mic lol
 
Okay I can understand the Federer case here, as much as idiotic as it sounds and looks, but when, where and how on earth was Nadal one match away from the CYGS is really beyond me. What I'm missing here? :oops:
 

Kralingen

Talk Tennis Guru
Okay I can understand the Federer case here, as much as idiotic as it sounds and looks, but when, where and how on earth was Nadal one match away from the CYGS is really beyond me. What I'm missing here? :oops:
yeah I have no clue what he's talking about with Nadal, unless he was just saying that Rafa had the talent to do so. Which is probably the correct sentiment, but still.

didn't Nadal retire in the 2010 AO? and 2010 was his only 3 Slam season iirc.
 
Classy comments as expected from Federer. And it's true that winning 3 of 4 consecutive majors is an incredible achivement.

But when we are talking about single season achievements, @NoleFam is right. Winning three majors CONSECUTIVELY and everything coming down to a pressure cooker final match in New York is different to winning 3 of 4 majors non-consecutively in a single season.

Even though Novak didnt win the GS this year we should still be looking upon this as one of the most special seasons ever.

It's crazy how many times he walked the tightrope in big matches and the fact that this run included the victory against Nadal in Paris. It was mental acrobatics from start to finish with this guy Djokovic and he really only showed how much mental burden he was carrying right at the end.
Yeah @NoleFam is almost always right. One of the best, most objective, knowledgeable posters around here. (y)
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
I think all of you Novak fans are missing Fed’s point here with your need to pump your boy up.

Fed’s point is that they’ve all 3 shown the capability to do it by winning 3/4 slams, and therefore someone in the future could be luckier than they’ve been and pull it off. Novak may have been the only one technically close and experienced the mental pressure of that final push (although Fedal would’ve experienced even more media/fan attention imo), but from an ability standpoint they’ve all 3 been at that level.

In the end Novak won’t be able to put *almost* pulled the CYGS off on his GOAT resume anymore than Fedal will, no one really cares how close you came besides your fans.

This is where it breaks down, having capability to do it and actually being real close to doing it are two different things.

In regards to your final sentence, I have already mentioned that below. However this thread is not about who won it, it is about agreeing or not agreeing with Federer's statement that all three were really close, which they factually were not.

Best Federer did was win the first 13 matches, best Nadal did was win the first 10 matches, best Djokovic did was win the first 27 matches...they all failed, but Djokovic was the only one who got close.
 

topher

Hall of Fame
This is where it breaks down, having capability to do it and actually being real close to doing it are two different things.

In regards to your final sentence, I have already mentioned that below. However this thread is not about who won it, it is about agreeing or not agreeing with Federer's statement that all three were really close, which they factually were not.

I think you and other Novak fans see Fed try to pat himself on the back here, which is your prerogative but mind-reading isn’t as easy as you think it is.

If you look at what he’s talking about though is the possibility of someone doing it in the future, which is where capability matters and that’s what he’s speaking to. He’s not comparing accomplishments or discussing GOAT/legacy.
 
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