Wilson Pro Staff RF97: A summary of people's experiences with the racquet

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
I wonder if there are any who are not Federer fans who like the RF97. It always seems like those who demo have visions of playing like Federer and after a few months of struggling to win matches with a heavy, stiff stick with a small sweet spot, they abandon it but cannot bring themselves to speak ill about it. The worst they will confess is that it is very heavy to play a long match with.
 
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Vlasta

New User
I wonder if there are any who are not Federer fans who like the RF97. It always seems like those who demo have visions of playing like Federer and after a few months of struggling to win matches with a heavy, stiff stick with a small sweet spot, they abandon it but cannot bring themselves to speak ill about it. The worst they will confess is that it is very heavy to play a long match with.
To be honest. I think that's just how it works. People who like Fed (national allegiances excluded) will enjoy that style of tennis, and if they are tennis players themselves they will tend to play that style of tennis meaning they'll gravitate towards similar racquets. Plus, Federer himself played with a Pro Staff because Sampras and Edberg played with Pro Staffs. We are all susceptible to that. So, yes, I can't imagine a Rafa fan playing with RF97, not only because it's Fed's racquet but because they probably prefer a completely different game style. RF97 is a little heavy, however, it doesn't feel nearly as heavy as I was led to believe. I know it's heavy because it says so on the frame, when I play I don't notice it that much. It might affect me long term, but so far, I'm having a blast playing with it. Oh, and the sweet spot is not that small at all, I find.
 
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SaaKha

Semi-Pro
If it was a smidge lighter, like maybe around 6.1 95 or C10 Pro weight, and a bit softer, then I could see myself still use it. Wilson QC being sh*t doesn’t help either. Great racquet tho.
 

Vlasta

New User
If it was a smidge lighter, like maybe around 6.1 95 or C10 Pro weight, and a bit softer, then I could see myself still use it. Wilson QC being sh*t doesn’t help either. Great racquet tho.
I hear that about Wilson QC all the time, although I haven't experienced it personally. At the pro shop where I buy my equipment, I took 4-5 random RFs and none of them were above 340g. First I got one that was 336g unstrung, but then I replaced it for the one that was 339g (when the handle cellophane was off) because the balance and swing weight were exactly on spec. Unstrung balance was 305mm on the dot. The others weren't far off either. When I tested the Blade 16x19 it was exactly 305g without strings. I guess I was just lucky. So far, I don't mind the stiffness that much because it's strung at 22kg.
 

morten

Hall of Fame
I hear that about Wilson QC all the time, although I haven't experienced it personally. At the pro shop where I buy my equipment, I took 4-5 random RFs and none of them were above 340g. First I got one that was 336g unstrung, but then I replaced it for the one that was 339g (when the handle cellophane was off) because the balance and swing weight were exactly on spec. Unstrung balance was 305mm on the dot. The others weren't far off either. When I tested the Blade 16x19 it was exactly 305g without strings. I guess I was just lucky. So far, I don't mind the stiffness that much because it's strung at 22kg.
It is not the total weight difference, 5-6g is not the bad part, swingweight is the real problem, i measured 7 and they ranged from 330 to 370 !!
 

morten

Hall of Fame
If it was a smidge lighter, like maybe around 6.1 95 or C10 Pro weight, and a bit softer, then I could see myself still use it. Wilson QC being sh*t doesn’t help either. Great racquet tho.
I agree, i wished they just made one 330g and a bit softer...
 

Vlasta

New User
It is not the total weight difference, 5-6g is not the bad part, swingweight is the real problem, i measured 7 and they ranged from 330 to 370 !!
370!? That's crazy! The ones I measured ranged from 305-308g unstrung. Mine was I believe 305-306g unstrung, and now it's 332g. That's swing weight, not static weight of course.
 

naturalexponent

Hall of Fame
It is not the total weight difference, 5-6g is not the bad part, swingweight is the real problem, i measured 7 and they ranged from 330 to 370 !!
Exactly right. I have a pair of matched RF97s that play super easy. They're overspec on static weight but wonderfully enough are under 330 swing weight when strung.
 

Konik_1982

Rookie
Just a small addition - playing with Lux 4G Soft 1,25 24/23kg in the RF97 for some time now and it works really well. If someone wants to try it as well, not a bad choice at all :)
 

lidoazndiabloboi

Hall of Fame
No , all 7 same string
At 370SW strung, you looking at around 335-338SW unstrung with a heavy 16 gauge string. That's pretty absurd. Are you sure there wasn't any lead under the grommet?
I've measure many many RF97s through the years including my own, and various clients. On the low end, i've seen some around 298SW unstrung, and on the high end around 317SW unstrung.
 

syncbox

New User
I wonder if there are any who are not Federer fans who like the RF97. It always seems like those who demo have visions of playing like Federer and after a few months of struggling to win matches with a heavy, stiff stick with a small sweet spot, they abandon it but cannot bring themselves to speak ill about it. The worst they will confess is that it is very heavy to play a long match with.
When I started playing tennis, I was a Delpo fan. I play with eastern forehand and double handed backhand. In those days, my racket of choice was the regular pro staff 97. After some years, I tried the RF97. For me personally, I find it better in every way compared to my pro staff 97.
 

gold325

Hall of Fame
I found the most perfect RF97

2014/15 Model V10
295 SW / 12HL / 335.5g
=> should end up =>
325SW / 10HL / 355g including OG!

As good as it gets from a usability standpoint i guess

I'm planning KB Syngut 16 mains / Poly 17g cross @ 58lbs/54lbs
 
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naturalexponent

Hall of Fame
I found the most perfect RF97

2014/15 Model V10
295 SW / 12HL / 335.5g
=> should end up =>
325SW / 10HL / 355g including OG!

As good as it gets from a usability standpoint i guess

I'm planning KB Syngut 16 mains / Poly 17g cross @ 58lbs/54lbs
Nice! What a beaut.
 

Chuonfood

Semi-Pro
Ok so I play the RF97A mainly for the past 2 years now - testing (und partly using) a lot of other rackets too - and in the form I use it right now, I still think it is the best stick for me personally. It generally feels the best, gives the best heavy shot with amazing penetration and yes, also for 3 sets in a row.

BUT here are the adjustments I made, because it can easily go wrong as well.

This is my favorite setup for the RF97A (v13) after 2 years of testing and using it as my main racket for matches and practice:

1. I removed the leather grip and put on a lighter syntetic grip (Head Ultimate or Wilson original syntetic (I think its the Wilson Cushion Pro?) - effectivly removing like 8g)
2. I only play pretty soft strings @ 23kg (like Solinco Hyper-G Soft, Hyper-G or max. Confidential (was still good) - do not use stiff strings in the RF97A like Tour Bite, or Tourna Silver 7, which instantly gave me wrist pain) Using a softer string in a stiff racket is the best combination for me.
3. I now only play 1.20mm strings (1.25 or even more make the racket sluggish to swing for me) - that's why the gut mains + poly crosses hybrid also didn't work for me, got to heavy.
4. I use 1 Wilson Pro Overgrip
5. This is minor, but if dampener, then I use a rather light one like the thin one from Technifibre
6. No lead anywhere (obviously not needed). Total weight (strung + grip/dampener) is: 357.1g Swing Weight is: 334

Again, I also own and played the Blade Pro, Ezone 98, Regna 98, Prestige Pro and Technifibre T-Fight 305 (all partly modded) and the RF97A is my favorite. Only the modded Blade Pro came close to a switch the last 2 years.

Here are some pics:
Mine stock without mods and champs choice and single OG comes out to 361g total. I would like to give this mod a try and make it much lighter than yours if possible. But if it only yields -4gms I don’t think it’s worth it.
 

Alexh22

Professional
One thing I noted with the retail rf97 is the fact the head is so heavy which leaves no room to customize in way that reduces the weight. I also tried using a synthetic grip but the balance is like 33cm. Weight is reduced but it didn’t really help.
The blade pro H22s play the most similar hence I use those more often these days.
 

Myrko

Rookie
Mine stock without mods and champs choice and single OG comes out to 361g total. I would like to give this mod a try and make it much lighter than yours if possible. But if it only yields -4gms I don’t think it’s worth it.
Well, I can tell you, that switching to a 1.20 string from 1.25 mmm does make a noticable difference.
 

Myrko

Rookie
One thing I noted with the retail rf97 is the fact the head is so heavy which leaves no room to customize in way that reduces the weight. I also tried using a synthetic grip but the balance is like 33cm. Weight is reduced but it didn’t really help.
The blade pro H22s play the most similar hence I use those more often these days.
Yes I also have the Blade Pro (h22) and this is a very good alternative with more room for customization! It's jsut a bit softer than the RF97, but one gets used to it.
 

Alexh22

Professional
Agreed. The rf97 is quite stiff.

Plus the b pro is more forgiving with very similar characteristics. I don’t know how they did it but they feel so good and familiar.
 
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Alexh22

Professional
My rf v12 now sits at 356 gram, 32.5cm balance after the mod. Not HL enough and I have no more room to reduce the head weight. If I can get it to around 31cm at this weight it would be great.
I still like the journey so far but I guess nothing is perfect.
 

Sicamuni

New User
just call the MRT line in the contacts section. they are racquet techs that have always been super knowledgeable and helpful in my experience. Just ask for something closest to that spec
How does it play vs a full spec 12.5 oz RF? Do you give up some plow through, stablity, power?
 

Icsa

Semi-Pro
I could get 302sw 12pt hl and 12.02 unstrung from the tw mrt service. Play great at this spec
What is the swingweight after stringing? I'm trying to figure out how much SW is added by stringing an RF97, so I know what to order. My target is 340-345 after stringing.
 

Rally

Professional
What is the swingweight after stringing? I'm trying to figure out how much SW is added by stringing an RF97, so I know what to order. My target is 340-345 after stringing.
Rule of thumb is +30 SW, -3 BP, +17g so his strung specs assuming no additional weight (lead, overgrip, dampener, etc) is about 332 SW, 9HL, 12.61 oz.
 

zaskar1

Professional
I've been reading lots of online reviews of the Pro Staff RF97 as I'm thinking of getting a couple of these. I've read people's experiences on Tennis Warehouse forums, Reddit, Quora, read all the reviews I could find online, watched YouTube reviews and read comments, etc. So, I thought it would be a good idea to summarise all this in one post for those who are also thinking about getting the RF, but are afraid to take the plunge. Obviously, I've demoed the racquet, but demoing it for a day or two doesn't tell you what's it like to use long term.

Based on all the reviews and people's experiences with this racquet these are the main points and conclusions. It is too heavy but easy to swing, it is also heavy and very hard to swing, and it is light unless you put some lead to make it swing properly. It is very powerful, yet it lacks power. It is very stable but a little unstable. It is very bad for beginners because you have to have the proper technique to use it, but at the same time, it is good for beginners because it forces you to learn the proper technique to use it. It is too heavy to use for singles but great for doubles, and it is great for singles but too heavy for doubles. It is hard to generate good racquet head speed on forehands because of its mass, yet it is easy to generate good racquet head speed on forehands because the mass gives it momentum. It's great on serves but hard to manoeuvre during play, and it's great to play with but very hard to serve with. Nobody but Federer can use it, and everybody can use it. It has easy access to spin, yet it's impossible to spin the ball with it. Its weight can give you tennis elbow, but its weight can cure or prevent tennis elbow. Vibrations will destroy your wrist on off-centre shots due to its weight, but its mass will absorb vibrations on off-centre shots making it wrist-friendly. It is crisp but plush. It is stiff but feels flexible. It's heavy but it feels light, and it's light but it feels heavy. The string-bed is control-oriented but erratic. It has that classic Pro Staff feel, but it feels nothing like Pro Staff. If you can't wield it, it is not due to weight but your bad technique, but even if you have good technique it's like hitting with a baseball bat, even though it feels great.

Two things are certain though, the plough through is apparently great, and it looks cool.

Hope this is helpful.
A while back, a friend loaned me one for a couple of weeks, strung hybrid like the Fed specs, the racquet had great plough thru and it seemed i could hit with extra pace on both sides, volleying was a bit of a control issue for me.
serving and overheads had less consistency.
i added some lead to the hoop to get the SW up, as i typically modify my regular PS97s that i was using at the time.
the extra lead just made it worse.
it was the all black PS 97RF, i think its a v10 or v11, as it was a while back it dont recall

i returned it to my friend and kept playing with the regular PS97 modified with lead for higher SW.

i think if you can play with the PS97RF its a great racquet, but it was a bit too much of a racquet for me.

my current racquet is the Blade Pro 98 v7/v8 18m

i am a senior, so i play mainly doubles, only singles with other seniors
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chapmpe

Rookie
How does it play vs a full spec 12.5 oz RF? Do you give up some plow through, stablity, power?
plays great. doesnt seem to play as heavy as the SW suggests due to being so head light i think. I hit a really heavy ball with it, I was just playing a heap and developed some shoulder soreness so switched off it and that seemed to help me. I will probably go back to them at some point though and this is unstrung so @Rally would be on the money for strung spec.
 

Sicamuni

New User
plays great. doesnt seem to play as heavy as the SW suggests due to being so head light i think. I hit a really heavy ball with it, I was just playing a heap and developed some shoulder soreness so switched off it and that seemed to help me. I will probably go back to them at some point though and this is unstrung so @Rally would be on the money for strung spec.
That's good to know , it probably swings like a slightly heavy regular pro staff 97, which is what I want.
Wish you a fast recovery
 
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crohawg

New User
Sounds like problems I had. I can hit the most unbelievable shot, and I feel like the ball did not even touch the racquet :D Good thing I got the Laver cup v12. So pretty :D
 

JEDI MASTER

Professional
Sounds like problems I had. I can hit the most unbelievable shot, and I feel like the ball did not even touch the racquet :D Good thing I got the Laver cup v12. So pretty :D
somehow my Red Laver Cup RF plays better than the Regular RF or even the Blue Laver Cup RF.
 
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