06 federer tennis season : became so underrated now days ?

[Red Rick]

2015 is probably the easiest year an ATG ever had. 0 competition anywhere for Djokovic Zzzz

Federer was posting insane stats in 2015, I'd take that competition over a Baghdatis Open.

 

[KINGROGER]

Federer was posting insane stats in 2015, I'd take that competition over a Baghdatis Open.

2006 is just as bad, same as most of 2010, 2016, 2017 after AO, 2018/2019 (apart from Wimbledon)

 

[King No1e]

Plus he had a rising ATG and established clay GOD to deal with.. unlike declined mid30 atg or trash atg (fed and nadal 2015).
Don't tell me nadal was a baby. No freaking baby wins slam + 4 masters (2005) & slam + 2 masters + slam final (2006), wins 81 consecutive matches on clay and stays world no.2 throughout the span only due to the most dominant peak player ever to play tennis was keeping him at bay.

Fed's 2006 > Djok's 2015, level wise.

Playing level: Djokovic 2011 > Federer 2006 > Djokovic 2015
Stats: Djokovic 2015 > Federer 2006 > Djokovic 2011

Nadal was pretty good in 2006, but Djokovic had to deal with PEAK Nadal. Y'know, the one who won RG, W, and USO back to back and almost added a WTF to that. Djokovic had it harder in 2011 but easier in 2015.

 

[King No1e]

2015 is probably the easiest year an ATG ever had. 0 competition anywhere for Djokovic Zzzz

Federer beat him 3 times that year. Murray was having a great season too, and Wawrinka had his best season on record. Sure, it wasn't the toughest competition, but it was about even with Federer's competition as #1

 

[Third Serve]

Don't tell me Fedal were old in 2015, they won 8 slams years later, which could've been 11/12 without Djokovic.

Big Tournament matches won, 2015 vs 2006:

Djokovic 70 > Federer 66
Murray 50 > Nadal 42
Federer 38 > Nalbandian 30
Wawrinka 36 > Robredo 30
Berdych 36 > Ljubicic 29
Nadal 35 > Davydenko 27

Federer and Nadal are good enough to be winning Slams even when they’re old. It doesn’t mean they were better than when they were younger.

 

[Lew II]

Federer and Nadal are good enough to be winning Slams even when they’re old. It doesn’t mean they were better than when they were younger.

Is winning slam a good way to prove that you're not too old/young?

 

[Third Serve]

Is winning slam a good way to prove that you're not too old/young?

The number you win compared to your younger self should serve as an indicator (if a bit simple).

 

[HetTheGreaterer]

Playing level: Djokovic 2011 > Federer 2006 > Djokovic 2015
Stats: Djokovic 2015 > Federer 2006 > Djokovic 2011

Nadal was pretty good in 2006, but Djokovic had to deal with PEAK Nadal. Y'know, the one who won RG, W, and USO back to back and almost added a WTF to that. Djokovic had it harder in 2011 but easier in 2015.

Playing level imo djok 2011 for the 1st half and fed 2006 for the 2nd half was highest.
Djokovic absolutely murdered the strong top5 in 2011 for the first 5 months, there's no doubt about it
And nadal wasn't at his peak in 2011. Prime for sure, but not peak.
Nadal's peak was the insane stretch from 2008 rome to 2009 rome

 

[KINGROGER]

Federer beat him 3 times that year. Murray was having a great season too, and Wawrinka had his best season on record. Sure, it wasn't the toughest competition, but it was about even with Federer's competition as #1

They were good in BO3. The only top slam player was Stan at RG. Part of me kind of wishes Djokovic would have won, any sort of come down after RG would’ve opened door for Fed to win I think.

 

[HetTheGreaterer]

Yeah, he was peaking especially when he lost to Seppi, a kind of dude who would have been blown off the court back in the day.

2006 fed would have eaten bagels from seppi.
His evolved, peakier version kept seppi away from easy win

 

[maratha_warrior]

Finalists at 5 biggest events .
2015. 2006
Australia - Andy Murray > Bagdatis
RG. - Wawrinka < Nadal
Wimbledon. - Federer > Nadal
US Open. - Federer > Roddick
WTF. - Federer > James B

This is for those who are laughing at Novak's 2015 season and cribbing about weak competition

 

[HetTheGreaterer]

It was fed's peak.
In every department.

I'm still finding reasons why @Yugram liked this sarcastic Post of mine

 

[HetTheGreaterer]

Finalists at 5 biggest events .
2015. 2006
Australia - Andy Murray > Bagdatis
RG. - Wawrinka < Nadal
Wimbledon. - Federer > Nadal
US Open. - Federer > Roddick
WTF. - Federer > James B

Names certainly don't always speak for quality or level the players brought to table.
For example, nadal is a much bigger name to nalhandian on clay, but 2015 nadal didn't bring as much of a quality tennis as 2006 nalhandian did at RG

 

[HetTheGreaterer]

2015 #3-5

Federer, Wawrinka, Nadal --> 62 slam finals

2006 #3-5

Davydenko, Blake, Ljubicic --> 0 slam finals

World wars won :- UK 2, china zero..
So statistically UK is much superior to china and will deliver a beatdown if the war takes place between the two nations

 

[Lew II]

World wars won :- UK 2, china zero..
So statistically UK is much superior to china and will deliver a beatdown if the war takes place between the two nations

2015 top5 had more ATP points than 2006 top5.

So they were not only more prestigious, but had also better results.

 

[Lew II]

The number you win compared to your younger self should serve as an indicator (if a bit simple).

Same to determine if too young?

 

[maratha_warrior]

Names certainly don't always speak for quality or level the players brought to table.
For example, nadal is a much bigger name to nalhandian on clay, but 2015 nadal didn't bring as much of a quality tennis as 2006 nalhandian did at RG

I have already described Nadal > Wawrinka on clay in my post .
But I see some Fed fans are laughing at Novak's 2015 season in the posts . So I just wanted to show what is more laughable .
Bagdatis- Roddick -Blake

Infact ,Novak beat Wawrinka and Murray at Australian open , beat Anderson and Federer at Wimbledon and beat Cilic and Federer at US Open . All of them are either winners of Finalists of that respected surface .

 

[King No1e]

Playing level imo djok 2011 for the 1st half and fed 2006 for the 2nd half was highest.
Djokovic absolutely murdered the strong top5 in 2011 for the first 5 months, there's no doubt about it
And nadal wasn't at his peak in 2011. Prime for sure, but not peak.
Nadal's peak was the insane stretch from 2008 rome to 2009 rome

Nadal was still making every final in 2011 (until the indoor season when he fell apart as usual) and stayed head and shoulders above the rest. Without the walking God that was 2011ovic, Nadal would have won:
Indian Wells
Miami
Madrid
Rome
Wimbledon
US Open
Basically a repeat of 2010. Any other version of Djokovic would have lost pretty much all of these encounters except maybe IW or USO. Certainly none of the non-HC matches.

 

[ForehandRF]

Nadal was still making every final in 2011 (until the indoor season when he fell apart as usual) and stayed head and shoulders above the rest. Without the walking God that was 2011ovic, Nadal would have won:
Indian Wells
Miami
Madrid
Rome
Wimbledon
US Open
Basically a repeat of 2010. Any other version of Djokovic would have lost pretty much all of these encounters except maybe IW or USO. Certainly none of the non-HC matches.

I believe 2015 Djokovic was at least as good if not better.

 

[King No1e]

I believe 2015 Djokovic was at least as good if not better.

Djokovic's serve and net game were much better in 2015, but he was a beast at the baseline in 2011. He played better at Wimbledon as a pure baseliner in 2011 than he did with an all-court style/bigger serve in 2015.

 

[Tshooter]

I saw 2006 FEDR just scrape by Vince Spadea at the USO, 63 63 60. You don't get by Spadea unless you're GOATing. Spadea ain't afraid of ya.

 

[Jonesy]

If anything 2006 season is overrated.

 

[KINGROGER]

Finalists at 5 biggest events .
2015. 2006
Australia - Andy Murray > Bagdatis
RG. - Wawrinka < Nadal
Wimbledon. - Federer > Nadal
US Open. - Federer > Roddick
WTF. - Federer > James B

This is for those who are laughing at Novak's 2015 season and cribbing about weak competition

Outside of Nadal at RG they’re all lesser opponents.

how is Murray ahead of Bagdhatis? Or 2015 fed ahead of Murray? Based on what? Their name?

I guess 08 Fed at RG >>>>>>> 19 uso medvedev or 13 Djokovic at RG

 

[duaneeo]

2015. 2006
Australia - Andy Murray > Bagdatis
RG. - Wawrinka < Nadal
Wimbledon. - Federer > Nadal
US Open. - Federer > Roddick

2006 Nadal would slaughter 2015 Wawrinka at RG.
2006 Nadal would beat 2015 Federer at Wimbledon.
2006 Roddick would beat 2015 Federer at US Open (as did many players in the 2010s).

2006 Baghdatis vs 2015 Murray is a toss-up...a battle of two dead tired finalists.

 

[Jonesy]

2006 Nadal would slaughter 2015 Wawrinka at RG.
2006 Nadal would beat 2015 Federer at Wimbledon.
2006 Roddick would beat 2015 Federer at US Open (as did many players in the 2010s).

2006 Baghdatis vs 2015 Murray is a toss-up...a battle of two dead tired finalists.

 

[Third Serve]

Same to determine if too young?

Well, just determining form overall (although you have to look at possible exceptions like 2005 Fed being better than 2007 Fed despite having less Slams). Good metric though.

 

[KINGROGER]

2015 Federer gets overrated to prop up Novak’s competition. In reality, his true level was exposed by a peak ATG. Just because he beat a lot of mugs who can’t handle a good serve and variety, doesn’t make him a top opponent.

 

[maratha_warrior]

2006 Nadal would slaughter 2015 Wawrinka at RG.
2006 Nadal would beat 2015 Federer at Wimbledon.
2006 Roddick would beat 2015 Federer at US Open (as did many players in the 2010s).

2006 Baghdatis vs 2015 Murray is a toss-up...a battle of two dead tired finalists.

As usual , Federer wins all hypothetical matches and Federer also loses all hypothetical matches as per the convenience of his fanatics . lol

Bagdatis Roddick Blake and baby claycourter Rafa at Wimbledon lol

I have no issues with Federer's 2006 season but fed fans laughing at Novak's 2015 seasons lol

 

[Bukmeikara]

2015 top5 had more ATP points than 2006 top5.

So they were not only more prestigious, but had also better results.

In 2016 top 5 was stronger but the top 20 was a lot more weaker. Nobody could have trouble the top guys?

Which is better:

1. Top heavy ranking
2. Ranking with more dept

You cant quantify life with points and stats, learn that before you become a zombie

 

[MichaelNadal]

he posted plenty of 'stats' to prove that point...

He knows stats don't tell the story, not even worth arguing with people that started watching tennis in 2011. As much as yall know I hated Novak in the day, Fed's dominance was another level ABOVE that. I was watching and remember.

 

[ForehandRF]

Djokovic's serve and net game were much better in 2015, but he was a beast at the baseline in 2011. He played better at Wimbledon as a pure baseliner in 2011 than he did with an all-court style/bigger serve in 2015.

Comparing 2011 Djokovic with his 2015 version it's like comparing 2005 Fed with 2006 Fed, not an easy task.

 

[King No1e]

Comparing 2011 Djokovic with his 2015 version it's like comparing 2005 Fed with 2006 Fed, not an easy task.

05erer and 06erer were pretty close in playing level, 2011ovic (IMO at least) had a much higher level than even 2015ovic.

 

[Third Serve]

05erer and 06erer were pretty close in playing level, 2011ovic (IMO at least) had a much higher level than even 2015ovic.

You have to factor in the massive drop-off at the end of the season as well.

 

[RS]

05erer and 06erer were pretty close in playing level, 2011ovic (IMO at least) had a much higher level than even 2015ovic.

Much is a very big word.

 

[King No1e]

Much is a very big word.

**Clearly higher

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

The average competition was more feeble in 2006, but 2006 Claydal is a tougher opponent than anyone 2015ovic faced, so 2015 was more conducive to going for the mythical CYGS. Fred wasn't in great form at 2006 AO (ankle brace still there), but would be favoured against Wawr and Mury who weren't peaking (2013/14 Djokorinka >> 2015 match quality-wise at the AO very clearly), and obviously he'd beat old Fred and mugs at Wim/USO. Djokovic faced a tough draw at RG, but I'd wager Federer would still be more likely to beat 2015dal+clayray+stan than Djokovic to beat cheetahdal with his outrageous defence and topspinbotting.

Generally I don't see any gulf in class but Fed's better slam form puts him ahead as a tiebreaker.

 

[The_Order]

2015/16 were 2 of the weakest years ever man, you can try to inflate it as much as you want. I don't have a horse in the race but Fed's 06 will always be the most impressive year I've seen from someone since I started watching tennis. Literally if it wasn't for Epicdal the guy would have lost 1 match. It's unbelievable.

Come on mate, it's all good if you think 2006 Fed was more impressive. But a year in which Blake and Ljubicic were #3 and #4, pusher Roddick (with ONE! top 10 win for the season which was vs Ljubicic at TMC) and Hewitt plummet, is a stronger year?

They were both weak but I'd still have 2006 as weaker.

 

[The_Order]

Names certainly don't always speak for quality or level the players brought to table.
For example, nadal is a much bigger name to nalhandian on clay, but 2015 nadal didn't bring as much of a quality tennis as 2006 nalhandian did at RG

Yeah, good thing he retired the SF v Fed...

 

[RS]

**Clearly higher

That is better but imo i might go lower than that.

 

[ForehandRF]

Yeah, good thing he retired the SF v Fed...

I still think Fed would have won that match, but we'll never know.

 

[duaneeo]

The 2nd best player of the 2010s was a non-factor in 2015. That alone makes the year the weakest.

 

[Sudacafan]

i think that 06 federer tennis season is so underrated , becasue novak djokovic 's 2015 season
sure djokovic win masters two time more
but federer started what really tennis 's perpect season

all four grand slam final record is

It's been 37 years since 1969 by Rod Laver.

and that the time every masters final is BO5
so federer is more disadvantage
and federer dosen't compete paris masters and hamburg masters in 2006

- federer won 12 title
- The Cincinnati loss to Murray was Federer's only straight-set loss of the year and the only tournament out of 17 in which he did not reach the final
- his win loss record is 92 -5 , better than djokovic 's 2015 season 82-6 record

And if Federer could have pulled the win in that Rome final, his confidence against Nadal would have pushed him to do it even better.