Who would win more often between Nole/Murray and Federer/Nadal? I think the well rested and rejuvenated Fedal would have beaten them more often and accomplish more. They would take 3 out of the 4 slams, with RG and Wimbledon are very likely because it's their pet slam. AO and USO is debatable. Nole might have to face and beat both Fedal to win the AO. And since Nole lost to Wawrinka at the USO, it's hard to count out Nadal beating him there. Being conservative, I give Nole 1 win(either the AO or USO). Nole/Murray are better at the WTF, no doubt.
2016 Nole & Murray versus 2017 Federer & Nadal
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EloQuent
Legend
Roger and Rafa made history in 2017, both played really well and deserved their wins.
But it's hard to say that either played on an all time top level. Roger made finals at Wimbledon in 14/15, in 17 he didn't face Djokovic, he faced Cilic. Rafa was #1 but beaten by Roger 4 times.
So I think that prime Murray and Djokovic would have had the edge (as would prime R&R).
But it's hard to say that either played on an all time top level. Roger made finals at Wimbledon in 14/15, in 17 he didn't face Djokovic, he faced Cilic. Rafa was #1 but beaten by Roger 4 times.
So I think that prime Murray and Djokovic would have had the edge (as would prime R&R).
mike danny
Bionic Poster
AO: Djokovic
FO: Nadal
Wimb: Federer
USO: Nadal or Djokovic.
IW: Federer
Miami: Djokovic
Clay: Nadal
Canada: Djokovic
Cincy: Murray
Shanghai: Federer
Paris: Murray
WTF: Murray
FO: Nadal
Wimb: Federer
USO: Nadal or Djokovic.
IW: Federer
Miami: Djokovic
Clay: Nadal
Canada: Djokovic
Cincy: Murray
Shanghai: Federer
Paris: Murray
WTF: Murray
TheAssassin
Legend
It would have been a pretty even year in the end. Slams and Masters both split about equally. Murray is likely to miss out on the former but would take WTF. That kind of a season would have been stunning.
The 2015 beast would have made it kinda one sided again though
but not to such a huge degree.
The 2015 beast would have made it kinda one sided again though
but not to such a huge degree.
EloQuent
Legend
The 2017 landscape was weaker because Djokovic and Murray were in decline.
fedtennisphan
Hall of Fame
Or maybe because they were suppose to feast on a weak field themselves with the other two out of the picture. FAIL.
EloQuent
Legend
I'm not sure what I am supposed to have failed at here. Have a great day!
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
I suspect the purpose of this thread was for the OP to state(in his usual roundabout way) that past prime Fedal > prime Murrovic. Either that or he must think 2017 Fedal were still close to the prime level they both showed back in the day. Who knows? And more importantly, who cares?
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I think we would get something close to what we got in 2012, but Murray likely to go slamless, but I think he wins WTF, Olympics, and ends year number one. Murray was a consistent beast in 2016 on every surface, outdoor hard, clay, grass, indoor hard.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
AO: Djokovic
FO: Djokovic
Wimb: Murray
USO: Murray
IW: Murray
Miami: Tomic
Canada: Djokovic
Cincy: Murray
Shanghai: Murray
Paris: Murray
WTF: Murray
FO: Djokovic
Wimb: Murray
USO: Murray
IW: Murray
Miami: Tomic
Canada: Djokovic
Cincy: Murray
Shanghai: Murray
Paris: Murray
WTF: Murray
SinjinCooper
Hall of Fame
Murray has never been anywhere near the level of any of the others when they were healthy and playing well.
Djokovic has never been anywhere near the level of Federer or Nadal when they were healthy and playing well.
Nadal has never been anywhere near the level of Federer when he was healthy and playing well.
Federer is GOAT.
QED
Djokovic has never been anywhere near the level of Federer or Nadal when they were healthy and playing well.
Nadal has never been anywhere near the level of Federer when he was healthy and playing well.
Federer is GOAT.
QED
D
Deleted member 77403
Guest
I guess you missed out on watching the 2011 season then.
maratha_warrior
Hall of Fame
AO- Djokovic
RG- Djokovic
WB- Federer/Murray
US - Stan Wawrinka /Nadal
Simply bcoz Djokovic lost his form after French Open.. Orelse 2015 version wins WB and USO too..
RG- Djokovic
WB- Federer/Murray
US - Stan Wawrinka /Nadal
Simply bcoz Djokovic lost his form after French Open.. Orelse 2015 version wins WB and USO too..
TripleATeam
G.O.A.T.
Almost. Try this.
AO: Murray
FO: Murray
Wimb: Murray
USO: Murray
IW: Murray
Miami: Tomic
Canada: Murray
Cincy: Murray
Shanghai: Murray
Paris: Murray
WTF: Murray
AO - Djokovic in 5 on the faster surface, 4 on slower (but closer than the 2016) match)
IW - Federer
Miami - Djokovic
MC - Nadal
Madrid - Djokovic
Rome - Murray
RG - Djokovic in 5
Wimbledon - Federer
Canada - Djokovic
Cincinnati - Murray
USO - Nadal
Shanghai - Federer
Paris - Murray
WTF - Murray
IW - Federer
Miami - Djokovic
MC - Nadal
Madrid - Djokovic
Rome - Murray
RG - Djokovic in 5
Wimbledon - Federer
Canada - Djokovic
Cincinnati - Murray
USO - Nadal
Shanghai - Federer
Paris - Murray
WTF - Murray
cockneyDjoker
Hall of Fame
Nole and Sir Andrew would remain #1 and #2. They declined so bad and suffered from injuries
TripleATeam
G.O.A.T.
Quite reasonable, except I don't know about RG/USO. I feel like Nadal was too good this year for even Nole of 2016 to handle in a best of 5 on clay. USO I think is a Nadal/Djokovic tossup, as Nadal didn't play very special tennis this year, and Djokovic wasn't doing his best then either. Likewise for both Federer and Murray, as well.
clout
Hall of Fame
At the majors, Djokovic would likely outlast Fedal at the AO (Djokovic was RED HOT at that time, while Fedal were both coming back from lengthy layoffs); Nadal beats all at RG (no explanation needed); Federer beats all at Wimbledon (no explanation needed here either); the USO would probably be the closest, with the finals likely being a 50-50 between Nole and Rafa (however, if this was in the 2016 landscape of tennis, I certainly wouldn't count out Stan either, although he'd go in as the underdog regardless whether his hypothetical opponent was Nole or Rafa).
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