2018 Wimbledon SF: [2] Nadal vs. [12] Djokovic

[NoleFam]

Nice! I found a better 30 minute highlight video than the last one but will look for the full thing some time later.

Even Dailymotion isn't reliable anymore. Wimbledon have really removed a lot of good content recently.

Yea I saw that one on Youtube. I wonder how long it will last there. Yea they remove everything which is annoying. I will post the torrent link in one of those comment threads.

 

[alexio]

Wimbledon have really removed a lot of good content recently.

but they downloaded that great final 2008 full match recently

 

[tenisdecente]

nope i'm only wanted to say it's important against which kind of player you're playing..it relates to each player not only fedrafa would have easily won this wimby had he played any other guy than djokovic, fed would have at least 25 slams in his bag if not nadal..etc. it always matters who's your opponent

Really? You are a f*** genius. It is a shame you just joined the forum this year. Keep up the good work!

 

[alexio]

Really? You are a f*** genius. It is a shame you just joined the forum this year. Keep up the good work!

i've seen some who not as smart as you just noting for them

 

[uscwang]

Nadal is a more impressive physical specimen than Federer is, I agree. But even knowing that, he's human and clearly reached his limit after 12 hours of play. You could see he was exhausted in the middle of the fifth set and had reached his end. Advantage, Djokovic. There's no question that Djokovic had more advantages in this match--indoor play and Nadal's 12 hours being the biggest ones. To deny that is ridiculous IMO.

Believe me, if Djokovic happens by some miracle to lose to Anderson in the final, you watch how quickly these same Djokovic fanatics who are claiming Nadal's 12 hours on court made no difference will start posting how Djokovic's SF after five hours and two days is the factor in the result(despite the fact that Giant Anderson had an over six hour SF and is probably worse for wear) Most fans are hypocrites. At the end of the day, all players have to deal with conditions which may favor them or may not favor them and they make a difference but what matters more is who wins. This time Djokovic got the job done. The end.

The final was not even close. No need to write a thesis about what if Anderson wins.

 

[alexio]

The final was not even close. No need to write a thesis about what if Anderson wins.

he didn't write ..that's why he said by some miracle

 

[tenisdecente]

i've seen some who not as smart as you just noting for them

And also you are a filantrophe! Man, we are so lucky

 

[Djokerr]

Summing up the viewers/fans reactions, while the match was swinging in favor of one player to the other:-

 

[TahoeTennis]

Easily best match of the year

 

[Shank Volley]

He choked (happens more to Nadal than people think) in 2011 USO final because Novak owned him mentally at a time, not returning Novak's puffball serves (injured shoulder) wasn't because of fatigue.

2012 AO was after the match, when the battle was already over and they had to suffer through the Kia man speech.

The guy recovers from tough matches better than anyone I've seen and has amazing stamina.

Excuse me?

 

[Enceladus]

Federer never displayed the same kind of stamina that Nadal displayed at Wimb this year. At 31, Fed had nothing left in the tank in the Olympics final after playing 4.5 hours against Delpo, while Nadal at 32 had no problems playing 5 hours against Djokovic after having already played 5 hours against Delpo.

Federer vs. Murray in the final of OG played terribly because he was nervous. He struck with simple blows. I saw the match, and it did not seem walks water.

 

[mightyjeditribble]

Federer never displayed the same kind of stamina that Nadal displayed at Wimb this year. At 31, Fed had nothing left in the tank in the Olympics final after playing 4.5 hours against Delpo, while Nadal at 32 had no problems playing 5 hours against Djokovic after having already played 5 hours against Delpo.

Well, your claim (Nadal's stamina in 2018 better than Fed in 2012) may or may not be true, but I feel you are comparing apples and oranges.

One week BO3 (apart from the final) Vs two week BO5 - the recovery between matches definitely helps at this age. Moreover, Fed had just played the longest BO3 match in the open era, while Murray had a close but straight set victory over Djokovic. Furthermore, unless I misremember, Fed-Delpo was fairly late on Friday, and the final in the afternoon. So a few more hours for Nadal to recover - and the match went into a second day.

So quite hard to reach any conclusions. Given that it's Nadal's least favourite surface, a very very impressive tournament for him in any case, for sure.

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[King No1e]

This thread has to remain alive forever. I could reread this thread over and over again and it would never cease to amaze. It's like reading a book.

 

[Mike Sams]

The complete Rafael Nadal vs Novak Djokovic Wimbledon 2018 semifinal match has just been uploaded this morning by the official Wimbledon YouTube Channel in full 1080p HD.

Full video length: 5:23:51.
You can download the full video to your phone as well if you have YouTube Red or sign up for the YouTube Red Free Trial. Download size is 4.92 GB.

 

[zep]

Easily best match of the year

This match left me extremely disappointed as a Rafa fan because it was the virtual final and I knew Anderson didn't stand a chance against these two after playing for over 7 hours in his semi, but as a tennis fan this was one of the best matches I have ever seen since I started following tennis, not just this year.

 

[zep]

Federer never displayed the same kind of stamina that Nadal displayed at Wimb this year. At 31, Fed had nothing left in the tank in the Olympics final after playing 4.5 hours against Delpo, while Nadal at 32 had no problems playing 5 hours against Djokovic after having already played 5 hours against Delpo.

Hmm, 2011 French Open final.

Federer: he was getting tired throughout the 3rd set and also the 4th, unfortunate I couldn't take my chances.

Nadal was extremely tired in the US Open 2011 final too, you could see it in the 4th set after that marathon 3rd set he had emptied his tank, actually both players were tired in that 4th set but Djokovic just had little bit more than Nadal. Nadal was also lucky in the 2009 AO final as Federer mentally collapsed in the 5th because Nadal looked tired from the middle of the third set onward and Federer had a ton of chances to win that set and he would have won it in 4 if he had won that set. There have been quite a few occasions when Nadal has looked tired, 2017 AO final is another one, you could see he didn't have the same zip in his shots in the 5th set. He usually doesn't show it like most other players and keeps his body language positive, kind of complete opposite of Del Potro , who looks tired from the first set.

Of course, Nadal has excellent conditioning, but so do Federer and Djokovic. When was the last time Federer actually looked tired in a match? He is 5-6 years older than both of them.

 

[acintya]

like i said before. .i cant remember a single shot from djoko,yet a dozen great decisions from Nadal who is for me the real winner.

 

[Mike Sams]

like i said before. .i cant remember a single shot from djoko,yet a dozen great decisions from Nadal who is for me the real winner.

I think Nadal lost the match.

 

[Enceladus]

like i said before. .i cant remember a single shot from djoko,yet a dozen great decisions from Nadal who is for me the real winner.

The bias of a fan, nothing else.

 

[King No1e]

like i said before. .i cant remember a single shot from djoko,yet a dozen great decisions from Nadal who is for me the real winner.

Don't worry, you'll remember once that point starts making the rounds on every highlight video ever

 

[ForumMember]

like i said before. .i cant remember a single shot from djoko,yet a dozen great decisions from Nadal who is for me the real winner.

Though I agree most of the memorable shots came from Nadal, real winner of the match remains Djokovic and you can't do anything about that. Rules of the match were very well laid out to both the players and match proceeded only because both had agreed to those rules. I have no doubt that off the ground Nadal was better player but in service Djokovic compensated more than enough of that. Thoughout the match Nadal could not read his down the T serve from deuce court and Djokovic earned an ace there whenever he wished to. I wish sometimes he had played for that service blindly as majority of the serves from deuce court Djoko sent in that direction.
Though match being an indoor was a factor but you can't say Nadal was a winner coz he hit more memorable shots (that he invariably does more than any other top players)

 

[King No1e]

I don't care how many awesome shots Nadal hit, nothing comes close to that perfect passing shot on break point at 8-8

 

[RF-18]

Just stopping by to say hello.

Great match. With great outcome.

 

[King No1e]

2nd greatest Wimbledon match ever, behind 08final

 

[MichaelNadal]

I don't care how many awesome shots Nadal hit, nothing comes close to that perfect passing shot on break point at 8-8

Please, it was a routine shot for Imhotep.

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Please, it was a routine shot for Imhotep.

No shot is routine when the nadal is on the other side, no?

 

[MichaelNadal]

No shot is routine when the nadal is on the other side, no?

That shot really wasnt great, Nadal said the same in his presser. Djokovic hit 20 better shots in the match. I watched the full highlights earlier, no reason to take anything from Novak, its one of the best matches ive ever seen

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

That shot really wasnt great, Nadal said the same in his presser. Djokovic hit 20 better shots in the match. I watched the full highlights earlier, no reason to take anything from Novak, its one of the best matches ive ever seen

Shame on Rafa then, must've been pressed. It was a great shot, sure not one-in-a-million, but so angled Nadal didn't even touch the ball - now that was tough to achieve. Not the best approach by Nadal, obviously, so forcing a volley error may not have been so impressive, but it was a direct winner and that was difficult to make against Nadal from that position.

Also, the mental aspect should not be glossed over - retaining full concentration on an absolutely crucial point isn't so easy even for seasoned pros. Nadal's ability in that regard is one of his greatest assets.

 

[TahoeTennis]

from the man himself, this was the match that launched his comeback and was his breakthrough:

"that was the match that has mentally turned things around for me"
"that has catapulted me to" epic exuberance.


see 8:00

 

[maratha_warrior]

This is still the GOAT thread

 

[Daniel Andrade]

Is this the longest thread of any match in tt history?

 

[The Green Mile]

Is this the longest thread of any match in tt history?

Yes, comfortably. Especially as it was played over two days as well.

 

[SonicNirvana]

Nah he's back now, he'll win 4 in a row again and send Fed into retirement.

So much gloating by fed fans in this thread. Little do they know this is the match that catapulted Novak into another GOAT run to overtake everyone. They always have underestimated how many slams djokodal can win in a short period of time.

 

[King No1e]

Gotta rewatch this match in full while reading the corresponding sections of the thread during changeovers again. Relive the "Resurrection of Earth's Mightiest Warrior" experience.

 

[Third Serve]

This might be one of only a handful of times I've ever rooted for Djokovic over Nadal.

 

[nolefam_2024]

7585 for Rafole Wimbledon 2018

 

[ojo rojo]

No love for Stallone's "Over The Top"?
Best film ever made that tackles the subject of arm-wrestling

 

[Devil_dog]

Wrong thread.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Neuro-magnetic patches FTW?!?!

Djokovic done something annoying.

People think karma will bite him.

Karma bites people instead.

That's how tennis has been since 2011.

 

[Devil_dog]

Wrong thread.

 

[-NN-]

A decent match.

 

[-NN-]

Giving this one another watch, because why not? One of the great ones.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

LOL That ref knows what's up.

 

[SonicNirvana]

Giving this one another watch, because why not? One of the great ones.

These new guys can't challenge him like this at Wimby

 

[Kralingen]

I’ll pop it on later. I actually don’t remember the first day as well as the second day, but what a rip-roaring display of athleticism and skill. Gun to my head, their singular best match ever.

 

[NedStark]

OTOH, Djokovic was quite fortunate that year as he avoided bots and big hitters (especially the former type) in earlier rounds. Running into a zoned Anderson in 4R would have been very different from facing a half-asleep Anderson who went through 2 five-setters in final.

Judging from this SF, my point is that Djokovic was very vulnerable to being overpowered/outgunned on the ground, but his serves essentially bailed him out.

(Anderson was seeded No.8, Djokovic was seeded No.12, remember)