gold325
Hall of Fame
It's pretty sad that the VC 98 and 100 dont play anything like the VC 95....
2021 Yonex VCore 95
- Thread starter TagUrIt
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It's pretty sad that the VC 98 and 100 dont play anything like the VC 95....
In all honesty though I don't blame you for going to the 98...
I would use the 98 if i had a two hander...something about a 95 just makes it better for one handed.
bobeeto
Professional
i am still pleased you stayed with the yonex family, and those osaka PJ’s are unbelievable.
the vc95 is always there when you want to feel elite haha
Wheelz
Hall of Fame
We lost our VC95 poster boy 
I have 2x ezone 98 in the bag that I also enjoy but I still prefer the 95 (2018 edition but I think I'll try the 2021 soon). They are still never too far. I pick them up for serve basket time and hits with my kids/father.
I have 2x ezone 98 in the bag that I also enjoy but I still prefer the 95 (2018 edition but I think I'll try the 2021 soon). They are still never too far. I pick them up for serve basket time and hits with my kids/father.I don't know if I'd do that...such a nice trusty string pattern.
That's also what I thought for my two hander. Even had the ezone 100. My backhand was useless with the 100. It was better with the 98 and I feel even better with the 95.
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CurvyHamster
New User
I recently picked up a core 95. Began playing with it and it feels as though lots of adjustments need to be made. Strings may have lost their tension 45 max power 16g mains, 46 nrg2 crosses. Im planning on cutting it out and going for a full poly. The NRG2 is notching which is not preferred in this type of frame. Im mishitting/launching/framing ground strokes. Not feeling good and theres not enough plow through. I recently had posted here earlier about the prestige mid graphene 360+. I play with that frame with a lead at 12:00. Im looking for that amount of plow through. Frame is currently uncustomized. What would you guys recommend full poly max power rough 16g.
celito
Professional
Prestige Mid is like 20g heavier than Vcore 95 stock. So yeah, you're going to need a lot of lead to get some of that plow through. I'd imagine Vcore 95 will give you more spin than the Prestige Mid.
CurvyHamster
New User
I demoed it, wasn't as impressed. I'm highly appreciating the prestige mid and its characteristics. After more investigation, sources disclosed of getting higher launch angles, so I went ahead and bought it. Knowing that more time is needed to adjust to a stick being that it is my first type of yonex frame. The weight conundrum is an issue I am currently working on. Do you suggest a full poly bed near 50 lb? Without the use of a dampener, 45lbs is shaking the frame.
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Full poly 40-50 lbs depending on your preference. 1.20 gauge is perfect for this frame IMO
Put some lead tape on the frame for more plowthrough. I would start with 2g at 12. and 2g at 3 & 9
Wheelz
Hall of Fame
I have not tried the new version but I have a pair of 2020 for a while. And Vcore 95. All my sticks are same specs 336g, 330sw or so. They are easy to change between them. EZone is definitely a great stick as well. Not a bad move! Maybe I should also try the new version.
Tennisfever
New User
I went exactly the same route! From 2018 Vcore 95 to a pair of 2022 Ezone 98, Osaka edition. Added a smidge of lead at 3 & 9 to bump up the swing weight to around 322. Liked this swing weight so much I took off some lead off my old Vcore 95’s to see how that felt, not bad actually. Will probably keep a pair of Vcore 95’s but I play better tennis with the Ezones.
mattimag
Rookie
hello, I have bought one of these Vcore 95 to try it. the racket came with a different grip. What is the grip the standard grip that Yonex sells them with?
moreover, I am used to play with leather grip + one overgrip on my rackets. If I put the Yonex leather grip what do I have to do to re-balance the racket?
moreover, I am used to play with leather grip + one overgrip on my rackets. If I put the Yonex leather grip what do I have to do to re-balance the racket?
celito
Professional
I string at around 52-54 lbs with YPTF on a crank ( I string myself). Typically reads around 48 lbs on RacquetTune (however accurate that is). I think you have to play with the tension yourself. Everyone is different. I have not strung it at lower tension. At that tension (and full round poly) I can take full swings on the FH without worrying about overhitting much. But timing has to be good to not hit off center. Not sure how sweet spot compares with Prestige Mid. I'd imagine the Prestige will have more ball feedback and solid feeling.
I don't use a dampener.
bobeeto
Professional
i have played my 95’s for a long time with just a leather grip/overgrip. i only added lead to the hoop for more serve pop. it is great both ways imo
devil_ball
New User
same thing happened to me as well
i used to play with babolat grip 3 + OG, i did not feel right to play with yonnex grip 3, and i put 2 overgrips on it, then boom! everything is right!
naturalexponent
Hall of Fame
I had been really frustrated by my performance with the vc95 my last 3 outings or so, so I cut out my strings today and my max power strings had locked up so badly I could barely pull the cut strings out of the frame. So here’s hoping I’ve figured out the issue. As much I’ve been playing better with other frames, there’s something that just keeps pulling me back to this one.
Torps
Semi-Pro
so funny but I agree.. the 97HD/97D is the players frame in Yonex line up. Why you’d want to play with anything more demanding than those I don’t quite understand.
darko.sumanovac99
New User
I would disagree that vcore 95 is more demanding than 97hd ?
naturalexponent
Hall of Fame
I’m giving up on my VC95 2021. Definitely plays significantly better with a new string job but it just doesn’t have what I need at net without some lead, and adding lead erodes a lot of the magic of how light and maneuverable it is which is what works great for me on serves and overheads. Going to try the easy98 for a while, along with my 97D.
Re the prior comment, I think the VC95 can be more demanding than the 97HD/D depending on your play style/strokes. E.g., if your game is not based on high RHS but getting some mass through the ball in a more linear path, then I can see the VCPs being a more natural fit. Not so much about what’s easier vs. harder but what’s a better fit for a person’s game.
Re the prior comment, I think the VC95 can be more demanding than the 97HD/D depending on your play style/strokes. E.g., if your game is not based on high RHS but getting some mass through the ball in a more linear path, then I can see the VCPs being a more natural fit. Not so much about what’s easier vs. harder but what’s a better fit for a person’s game.
Roquestil
Semi-Pro
In terms of heaviness yeah 97HD but I’m terms of sweetspot and accuracy (which I think is more relevant in terms of demanding) 95 is definitely more demanding: smaller head and less stable.
-VC95 feels like a 95 and the sweetspot is higher than other racquets, it’s a learning curve.
-97HD does feel bigger like a 98 or 99, feels massive.
bobeeto
Professional
also would be curious to see if they raise to 315 for their player frame like other brands
I don't think that's necessary since most people can just add a little weight to the handle if they want.
FuzzyYellowBalls
Legend
Interesting, maybe my racket indecision is my inability to know what my game is. I just adjust my RHS for the 95 and realize I can do some shots, not many, but some flicking shots with it I can't do with the D and the HD and vice versa. The key I guess for me is the VC95, Regna, Ez98, D, HD, H are all the same balance pretty much.
I found the ezone 98 (with poly) can produce an unpredictable volley maybe once a set in singles ,maybe a few times a set in doubles if it's a dipper below the net and you want to do something creative with the volley instead of just hit it back. Obviously it's not that often an occurrence to matter much. For contrast, right now I have natural gut in my Regna 98 and it is able to do touch volleys at an incredibly satisfying accuracy level, like anywhere you want the volley to go. It's not ideal for all the strokes hit in a match, but I had some gut laying about and decided to use it.
Natural, did you mention if you had a 1 hander or 2? I do think the 95 isn't the best for 2 handers, I'd automatically go EZ98 for that. But, overall the EZ98 is a fantastic racket for so many players/styles/levels.
I think the only thing demanding amongst these sticks for me is weight, so you can imagine how confusing it is for me to decide if I think the 95 is already stable enough stock. I'll definitely be trying the new 95 when it comes out.
naturalexponent
Hall of Fame
My physical limitations demand that I know what my game is lol. I'm not that tall (5'7") but I love living up at the net, even though I get lobbed a lot. And I'm about to cross over from mid 30s to late 30s. So my game style is basically approach on every short ball or approach on every deep shot that pushes the opponent back. Ideally I can hit heavy shots that force errors or short balls. I feel like the VC95 hits fast but not heavy, if that makes sense, whereas I feel like my 93P, VCP 97D, RF97, etc. hit heavy.
I like to warm up with my PS85, which is what I used for most of my playing life, and the reissue from TWE is about the same swingweight as the VC95 2021. When I volley with the PS85 I can do almost whatever my mind wants it to -- punch it deep, use touch, etc., and I've lately tried out the PSVS too which gives me the same -- but the VC95 has been such an exercise in frustration for me. I can only punch it and it has a tendency to fly even with poly at higher tension. Mostly it just feels like there's not enough weight to absorb the pace. I like the EZ98 on punch volleys but find touch a bit tough on that one too. FWIW, not saying the VC95 sucks at volleys, it just doesn't naturally fit the way I execute those shots and I'm sure plenty of better players make it work just fine.
Re stability, I only feel the lack of weight when I volley back a shot that is hit hard at me or when I play older dudes who tend to hit heavy and low through the court. That's where I feel the racquet get pushed back. But I don't know that I would call that instability, which I associate with flutter or torque. It's just that you can feel it losing the battle of momentum vs momentum unless you are really ready and prepped to kill the ball.
I have a 1 hander and that's one of the reasons I've tried sticking with it. It's fun how many different trajectories and angles you can hit and how easy it is to make those microadjustments. I actually really love my 1 hander so far with the EZ98, but I don't think I'm as picky as some when it comes to my 1hbh racquets. For example, I think the GPro is fine on the 1 hander, and I know a lot of people would disagree. Maybe it's because my first serious racquet was an oversize. That said, I do feel like my 1hander gets a bit more one-dimensional with a GPro (generally more flat) or the EZ98 (pace through the court vs. angles).
You make me curious about the Regna. If only it were easier to find! I did just get some VCore Tour 89s that I am VERY excited about. Sadly they will have to wait until my back feels better, as I may have reinjured an old herniation this morning during a lesson.
FuzzyYellowBalls
Legend
Oh, you really do know your game, that's impressive and not easy to do. It makes a lot of sense, yes, the VC95 shot isn't always heavy but can have a lot of spin, however it's easier to hit deeper topspin balls with the ones you mentioned.
I don't think the outcome of shots is that different between the VC95 and EZ98, I wouldn't think about it too much. I do agree though, there are some unique service line bouncing cross court shots I can hit with the 95 that aren't as easy with the EZ 98 and Regna.
Regna is something to experience, more of a hobby exploration. It's like a very slightly heavier Ezone, with a kind of unique feel and touch. Fun to try.
naturalexponent
Hall of Fame
Right on. I think it's more a matter of what shots and tendencies they encourage, so to speak. The EZ98 feels "thwacky" to me which makes me want to smack the ball hard, while I feel more stringbed deflection in the VC95, which combined with the more HL stock balance seems to encourage a bit more variety.
Wheelz
Hall of Fame
Yeah the EZ98 seems to hit a heavier ball. I did that test many times with a friend alternating. I still do hood in points with vc95 because I can get very consistent and I can move the ball around but I’m not bullying him. Works outside but now that indoor season is starting the ez98 bully side is needed. Mine are both weighted the same. I also sadly don’t venture at the net so your playing style an opinion will be different. I still like the Vcore 95. Very cool stick and I’m still convinced it made me better. I will keep it in the bag.
Such a love hate relationship with the 95. Been maining it stock for a while. I realize that when I alternated other rackets into my session recently that it gives you nothing for free. I do love the rawness but damn it felt good when a racket did some of the work for you, esp on your down days! Ive been having a down week (or two) and was looking for a potential switch but unfortunately the Yonex maneuverability gives me the best serves Ive ever had.
Honestly not a lead tape guy but if anyone has advice on where I can add some that would keep the maneuverability, add a bit more launch angle and stability, it would be much appreciated.
Been eyeing the VCP97 but the thin beam kinda worries me.
Honestly not a lead tape guy but if anyone has advice on where I can add some that would keep the maneuverability, add a bit more launch angle and stability, it would be much appreciated.
Been eyeing the VCP97 but the thin beam kinda worries me.
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bobeeto
Professional
so i use both the vcore 95, and the vcpHD. can’t speak on the new D version, but if you want to talk about not getting anything for free, it’s the HD/D. the 95 offers a decent amount of pop and spin when i play side by side, the 18x20 just has 0 shape when i compare them. (i’m being dramatic, it’s really not bad)
as far as my 95 goes, i put 4” strips at 3/9 totaling 4 grams, and with my leather grip plays like a more stable stock experience. it’s pretty nice man.
i would also recommend a power string in it, i play kirschbaum flash (orange poly tour pro) and it’s so much nicer than a dead poly in my opinion. i keep poly tour air in the other stick cause it looks like god designed it to be in that stick, but so does the flash so i’d recommend that a lot.
TagUrIt
Hall of Fame
I wouldn't leave Yonex, I'd try demoing the Ezone 98 and the VCP 97. Also keep in mind the new VCore line is coming in early 2023. I ended up giving up my Vcore 95 for the 2022 Ezone, it was just simply less demanding and literally easier to play with.
ChrisJR3264
Hall of Fame
It depends on your comfort or skill set. I could not control the power of the Ezone 98 when it came to match play at all. Gave too much free power for my game. That is why I use the tfight 305 pattern.
CurvyHamster
New User
I enjoy having 16 mains. This is a huge comfort to me. I know a tighter string bead probably yields more and more 'yada yada'. As long as your strokes are angled up! And. Up! To a degree that will allow for your strings to show off their ability. It's truly a charm! I think the softer, more spread out string bed is what this particular racquet company is referring to as a more "Advanced players' racquet." What makes this a more advanced frame is your ability to actually hit up on the ball. Like, I have trouble with that on my Prestige, my go-too because I normally hit, on-the-rise.
ChrisJR3264
Hall of Fame
I haven’t. But I heard it’s like $500 usd. Is that true? If so it better be the best stinkin racket on the planet lol
ChrisJR3264
Hall of Fame
Where can you even buy it? Direct from Yonex USA ? Wonder why TW doesn’t carry it
ChrisJR3264
Hall of Fame
Yeah no thanks. I’ve honestly not had good success with Yonex frames. Not sure if it’s the isometric shape or what. The HD 97 18x20 was ok. The vcore 95 is ok. But nothing that I’ve really loved. Vcore 100 I hit with and played a set and found surprisingly good control with.
ChrisJR3264
Hall of Fame
I think most pros use older models. Lot of DR series players whose with Ezone paint jobs.
FuzzyYellowBalls
Legend
Regna 98 is closer to the DR 98 than most offerings. It has an interesting throat that is slightly thicker and they copied that in the latest Ezone 98 tour. I'd say the Regna is a middle ground in control and power between the Vcore 95 and Ezone 98.
ChrisJR3264
Hall of Fame
Too bad it’s not available to demo. Wonder if any pros use it? I know NK uses the XI version. Ruud is DR100
Torps
Semi-Pro
Did anyone move from the blue 2018 VCP 310 to the VCore 95? Or tried both?
I’ve already sold my 95 so can’t compare them side by side, but picked up an older VCP 310 to try out of curiosity(pros using older models, no vdm, stiffer than the current 310). Really dig this frame.. it feels as maneuverable as the 95 but more stable at the baseline and net. Really easy to shape shots. It’s rather anemic in the power department though. I’m going to try a lower tension and different poly.. maybe some weight in the hoop to bring up the SW.
I’ve already sold my 95 so can’t compare them side by side, but picked up an older VCP 310 to try out of curiosity(pros using older models, no vdm, stiffer than the current 310). Really dig this frame.. it feels as maneuverable as the 95 but more stable at the baseline and net. Really easy to shape shots. It’s rather anemic in the power department though. I’m going to try a lower tension and different poly.. maybe some weight in the hoop to bring up the SW.
FuzzyYellowBalls
Legend
No snark intended...if you are asking, it probably isn't.
However, if you want a slightly heavier Ezone 98 experience, like really beautiful black rackets, love Yonex, it might be worth it.
The price is about $400 ish US dollars. The actual price of buying one and trying it out might be $50 because you can always sell it if you hate it.
FuzzyYellowBalls
Legend
No pros use it, they get, if they want, hand made rackets for themselves to the exact specs they want or they use what they played with for 10 years or so and modify it. Having a pro "play" with a racket is for selling them, the Regna doesn't need any marketing boost to sell them, it steadily sells out as they produce a few hundred every month or so.
ChrisJR3264
Hall of Fame
Got it. For me before I spend $500 on a racket I’d like to demo it lol.
FuzzyYellowBalls
Legend
Understandable, that's not going to happen probably unless you find a friend with one.
