2021 Yonex VCore 95

ChrisJR3264

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I just bought one on **** for $270 used . Let see how it play a little beat up .
Yeah I know. Again I’m not sold on all the Yonex frames I’ve tried. The VC 95 is solid - so was the VC 100. I do not like the Ezone series. vCp pro line - I tried all 97 sq inch 16x19 and 18x20. The HD is very nice but after a set my arm felt some discomfort. That low flex means nothing I feel. Had more power than normal 18x20 and was a bit of a scalpel.
Maybe it’s the iso metric head but I can’t seem to dial into commit. I’m a fan of 18x19 and 16x20 frames.
 

Phat Dave

New User
Yeah I know. Again I’m not sold on all the Yonex frames I’ve tried. The VC 95 is solid - so was the VC 100. I do not like the Ezone series. vCp pro line - I tried all 97 sq inch 16x19 and 18x20. The HD is very nice but after a set my arm felt some discomfort. That low flex means nothing I feel. Had more power than normal 18x20 and was a bit of a scalpel.
Maybe it’s the iso metric head but I can’t seem to dial into commit. I’m a fan of 18x19 and 16x20 frames.
Arm issues with the HD? Must be strings or tension.
 
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InSydeOut

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so i use both the vcore 95, and the vcpHD. can’t speak on the new D version, but if you want to talk about not getting anything for free, it’s the HD/D. the 95 offers a decent amount of pop and spin when i play side by side, the 18x20 just has 0 shape when i compare them. (i’m being dramatic, it’s really not bad)

as far as my 95 goes, i put 4” strips at 3/9 totaling 4 grams, and with my leather grip plays like a more stable stock experience. it’s pretty nice man.

i would also recommend a power string in it, i play kirschbaum flash (orange poly tour pro) and it’s so much nicer than a dead poly in my opinion. i keep poly tour air in the other stick cause it looks like god designed it to be in that stick, but so does the flash so i’d recommend that a lot.

I put a leather grip and 3 grams at 12, .5 grams at 3 and 9 totaling 4 grams. I put more at 12 because I felt it got way to head light.
Got back from a first hit with it on the machine. Not sure what I expected, but the feel was way worse than stock.
You think going with your approach of putting all 4 grams at 3 and 9 help this at all? Going to keep at it for a few days longer with a customized setup just to give it a fair shot.

edit: changed lead to the 3 and 9 configuration. Not much of a difference except it swings a lil faster. Will keep at it and reserve judgement for a bit.
 
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Wheelz

Hall of Fame
Is there any stick that’s like the vcore 95 ? What else can I compare it to if I wanted to demo and be sure. I like it’s ratio of lower pop but decent spin. Good flex feel. Very whippy/easy on the wrist to swing. I like it’s low twistweight so I’d only consider other sub 14 TW sticks. I play at 330SW,337g and around 32cm on all my sticks.

I noted the old vcore pro 97. Blade v7 or v8 in the 16x19. Maybe the new artengo stick (I only have access to 18x20) seems low TW. I don’t know how the prestige line compares to the vcore 95.

Not the lowest TW stick but did enjoy my 7 months with the speed pro (360 version).
 

naturalexponent

Hall of Fame
Is there any stick that’s like the vcore 95 ? What else can I compare it to if I wanted to demo and be sure. I like it’s ratio of lower pop but decent spin. Good flex feel. Very whippy/easy on the wrist to swing. I like it’s low twistweight so I’d only consider other sub 14 TW sticks. I play at 330SW,337g and around 32cm on all my sticks.

I noted the old vcore pro 97. Blade v7 or v8 in the 16x19. Maybe the new artengo stick (I only have access to 18x20) seems low TW. I don’t know how the prestige line compares to the vcore 95.

Not the lowest TW stick but did enjoy my 7 months with the speed pro (360 version).
I feel like the uncapped PT 2.0 plays similarly to the Vcore 95.
 

InSydeOut

Rookie
Is there any stick that’s like the vcore 95 ? What else can I compare it to if I wanted to demo and be sure. I like it’s ratio of lower pop but decent spin. Good flex feel. Very whippy/easy on the wrist to swing. I like it’s low twistweight so I’d only consider other sub 14 TW sticks. I play at 330SW,337g and around 32cm on all my sticks.

I noted the old vcore pro 97. Blade v7 or v8 in the 16x19. Maybe the new artengo stick (I only have access to 18x20) seems low TW. I don’t know how the prestige line compares to the vcore 95.

Not the lowest TW stick but did enjoy my 7 months with the speed pro (360 version).
the prestige feel is miles better than the vcore95 imo
potential power and spin via maneuverability, vcore95 is better
 

InSydeOut

Rookie
demoing the 2021 vcp97d during a clinic yesterday and a match today strung with hyper-g 16L. It was decent during the clinic but during matchplay I realized it had way too much pop and felt sluggish so I switched back to my modded vc95 and immediately got my mojo, confidence through the roof making the shots I know I should make.. The love hate relationship with this racket never ends.

I have put a leather grip and 2 grams of lead at 3 and 9 each. Loving the stability, any recs on modding it for like 15-20% less power? Im thinking more tungsten putty in the buttcap. Would rather not string tighter.
 

aaron_h27

Hall of Fame
demoing the 2021 vcp97d during a clinic yesterday and a match today strung with hyper-g 16L. It was decent during the clinic but during matchplay I realized it had way too much pop and felt sluggish so I switched back to my modded vc95 and immediately got my mojo, confidence through the roof making the shots I know I should make.. The love hate relationship with this racket never ends.

I have put a leather grip and 2 grams of lead at 3 and 9 each. Loving the stability, any recs on modding it for like 15-20% less power? Im thinking more tungsten putty in the buttcap. Would rather not string tighter.
The only mods for making a racket less powerful is to remove swingweight.

That or use a less powerful string.
 

iceman_dl6

Professional
My physical limitations demand that I know what my game is lol. I'm not that tall (5'7") but I love living up at the net, even though I get lobbed a lot. And I'm about to cross over from mid 30s to late 30s. So my game style is basically approach on every short ball or approach on every deep shot that pushes the opponent back. Ideally I can hit heavy shots that force errors or short balls. I feel like the VC95 hits fast but not heavy, if that makes sense, whereas I feel like my 93P, VCP 97D, RF97, etc. hit heavy.

I like to warm up with my PS85, which is what I used for most of my playing life, and the reissue from TWE is about the same swingweight as the VC95 2021. When I volley with the PS85 I can do almost whatever my mind wants it to -- punch it deep, use touch, etc., and I've lately tried out the PSVS too which gives me the same -- but the VC95 has been such an exercise in frustration for me. I can only punch it and it has a tendency to fly even with poly at higher tension. Mostly it just feels like there's not enough weight to absorb the pace. I like the EZ98 on punch volleys but find touch a bit tough on that one too. FWIW, not saying the VC95 sucks at volleys, it just doesn't naturally fit the way I execute those shots and I'm sure plenty of better players make it work just fine.

Re stability, I only feel the lack of weight when I volley back a shot that is hit hard at me or when I play older dudes who tend to hit heavy and low through the court. That's where I feel the racquet get pushed back. But I don't know that I would call that instability, which I associate with flutter or torque. It's just that you can feel it losing the battle of momentum vs momentum unless you are really ready and prepped to kill the ball.

I have a 1 hander and that's one of the reasons I've tried sticking with it. It's fun how many different trajectories and angles you can hit and how easy it is to make those microadjustments. I actually really love my 1 hander so far with the EZ98, but I don't think I'm as picky as some when it comes to my 1hbh racquets. For example, I think the GPro is fine on the 1 hander, and I know a lot of people would disagree. Maybe it's because my first serious racquet was an oversize. That said, I do feel like my 1hander gets a bit more one-dimensional with a GPro (generally more flat) or the EZ98 (pace through the court vs. angles).

You make me curious about the Regna. If only it were easier to find! I did just get some VCore Tour 89s that I am VERY excited about. Sadly they will have to wait until my back feels better, as I may have reinjured an old herniation this morning during a lesson.

Definitely agree your VC95 assessments. Having said that, additional weight at 3 & 9 is a must, as the hoop is a bit flimsy, stock version.
 

daman sidhu

Rookie
Is there any stick that’s like the vcore 95 ? What else can I compare it to if I wanted to demo and be sure. I like it’s ratio of lower pop but decent spin. Good flex feel. Very whippy/easy on the wrist to swing. I like it’s low twistweight so I’d only consider other sub 14 TW sticks. I play at 330SW,337g and around 32cm on all my sticks.

I noted the old vcore pro 97. Blade v7 or v8 in the 16x19. Maybe the new artengo stick (I only have access to 18x20) seems low TW. I don’t know how the prestige line compares to the vcore 95.

Not the lowest TW stick but did enjoy my 7 months with the speed pro (360 version).
I moved to a TF40 315 16X19 and it was a fairly easy transition. Its 10pts HL and while not as whippy as the VC95, it's fairly easy transition as I feel its very similar. I would recommend a demo.
 

bobeeto

Professional
Does anyone have any multi/poly recommendations? Looking to get a little more pop for the fall season and would love to hear some of your favorite setups!
 
You hit the sweet spot ALL the time? Because it’s the racquet, or because of your superior skill?
Well, I'll shank some overheads sometimes, but yes, pretty much all the time I am hitting the sweetspot, it's not that big of deal, there are plenty of people like me. That's why it's strange to read people wanting to add weight for the sole purpose of stabilizing off center shots, that seems like the wrong way to solve a problem of not hitting the sweetspot.

The racket doesn't matter, I'm going to be hitting the sweetspot with Yonex almost all the time. The only time I had a noticeable variance in hitting the sweet spot was the few years I used the Wilson K88, that sweet spot is tiny.
 

kenmlu

New User
Who's still using this racket and what strings and tension do you use? I recently switched to it been using tour bite 16g @44lbs been playing well it.
 

Soundbyte

Hall of Fame
Who's still using this racket and what strings and tension do you use? I recently switched to it been using tour bite 16g @44lbs been playing well it.
It's on my radar of rackets to try. Haven't bit just yet. Curious, what frames were you using before you switched?
 

celito

Professional
Who's still using this racket and what strings and tension do you use? I recently switched to it been using tour bite 16g @44lbs been playing well it.

I use PTF and I like it at 46-48 lbs. Lower works as well. I would not go over 50 lbs with poly or else the racquet will probably start feeling like a board until the tension relaxes a bit. I think this is true for most racquets. Unless you're an advanced player who can generate a lot of racquet speed and can get the strings to flex at those higher tensions. That's my theory at least.
 

kenmlu

New User
I use PTF and I like it at 46-48 lbs. Lower works as well. I would not go over 50 lbs with poly or else the racquet will probably start feeling like a board until the tension relaxes a bit. I think this is true for most racquets. Unless you're an advanced player who can generate a lot of racquet speed and can get the strings to flex at those higher tensions. That's my theory at least.
Thank you! Yes I agree low tension is the way to go. Even at 44lbs the tour bite felt a bit boardy had to felt for the tension to relax to really start enjoying the frame. I might try head lynx tour 1.25 silver next at a similar tension and see how it feels.
 
I use PTF and I like it at 46-48 lbs. Lower works as well. I would not go over 50 lbs with poly or else the racquet will probably start feeling like a board until the tension relaxes a bit. I think this is true for most racquets. Unless you're an advanced player who can generate a lot of racquet speed and can get the strings to flex at those higher tensions. That's my theory at least.
Its hard to imagine how even an advanced player could get boardy strings to flex but yea maybe
 
Do you mean there will be news in December or new models released?
So the rumors are faint but they were here somewhere and on Reddit that December would be a Vcore release I'm pretty interested in the 95 just for fun. So, I figured it was about time to double check with the most connected Yonex rep I know who has been pretty accurate the past few years, he replied this morning that those are truly rumors and no plans have been released. I guess we all have to wait and see, but for sure early 2023 should be a new Vcore line. Maybe someone else closer to Japan knows?
 
So the rumors are faint but they were here somewhere and on Reddit that December would be a Vcore release I'm pretty interested in the 95 just for fun. So, I figured it was about time to double check with the most connected Yonex rep I know who has been pretty accurate the past few years, he replied this morning that those are truly rumors and no plans have been released. I guess we all have to wait and see, but for sure early 2023 should be a new Vcore line. Maybe someone else closer to Japan knows?
Yea I'd imagine they'd just do it the same time of year as the 2021 which was february or january
 

ChrisJR3264

Hall of Fame
Demo’d this again bc I’m sure it’ll be on close out sales soon with the 23’ update. I couldn’t dial in. Not a bad racket. Surprisingly surgical on serves. But couldn’t dial in with my ground strokes.

I find the isometric head is just odd to me. Which is why I’ ended up selling my Ezones and switched in January.
 

aaron_h27

Hall of Fame
My only wish for the 2023 model is a 16x19 string pattern and maybe medium stiffness 65-66 RA. I still find myself at times wanting a bit more free power to keep up with Ezone's and Blades.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

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My only wish for the 2023 model is a 16x19 string pattern and maybe medium stiffness 65-66 RA. I still find myself at times wanting a bit more free power to keep up with Ezone's and Blades.

Opposite hope to yourself from my side. Lower RA, similar to the 2018 (or even lower), keep the 16x20 pattern, decent twist weight for stability, large sweet spot, and ability to customise (good platform specs). I hope the beam is not too thick and the flex profile is uniform (kind of like an Angell TC95).
 

aaron_h27

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Opposite hope to yourself from my side. Lower RA, similar to the 2018 (or even lower), keep the 16x20 pattern, decent twist weight for stability, large sweet spot, and ability to customise (good platform specs). I hope the beam is not too thick and the flex profile is uniform (kind of like an Angell TC95).
Try playing 5.0 level tennis with a 95 sq inch frame and 60 RA. Not fun. I gave up on the super flexible stuff most people love around here and my game is much better. There's always the clash or the phantoms for you guys that love low RA sticks. Although im not sure what the appeal is behind a 95 sq inch frame, dense pattern and low flex. Just asking to be bossed around the court.

Once I get older and a step slower I will have to transition to a Pro Staff 97 or something...The vcore 95 is not an easy racket to play with but I really like it on the one handed backhand...

I actually wish they made an extended version of this frame too. That would be nice too.
 
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aaron_h27

Hall of Fame
Well I think I found out why I have been switching from racquet to racquet this past 2 years when All I want is to settle with one racquet. The grip I use is too small, therefore I have been basically trying a lot of Yonex, Wilson, head and TF40. Yesterday I added a second overgrip to my Vcore 95 and everything just clicked, and I remembered why I always used grip 4 when I was younger. Maybe grip 4 with Yonex would be too big but I will stick with a second overgrip.

I thought every time my racquet twisted it was a low Twistweight or instability, but it was my grip size. Played a match yesterday with stock Vcore 95 with a second overgrip ( I claimed vc95 is unplayable for me without weight) and felt no twisting at all, yeah still need the bump in SW but wow how the correct grip size changes everything.
Hmm interesting...I've always used small grip sizes so I may add another overgrip and give this a try.
 

aaron_h27

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I think a lot of people see Roger and Rafa going down to size 2 or 3, Novak is basically a 4 but he doesnt get emulated as much haha. Anyways, I´m sticking with the VC95 but instead of having 4 grams at 3/9 I´m shifting 2 grams @12 and keeping 2 @ 3/9 since stability isn´t the racquets issue anymore.
Novak uses a larger grip and more weight on the sides, haha.
 

naturalexponent

Hall of Fame
Try playing 5.0 level tennis with a 95 sq inch frame and 60 RA. Not fun. I gave up on the super flexible stuff most people love around here and my game is much better. There's always the clash or the phantoms for you guys that love low RA sticks. Although im not sure what the appeal is behind a 95 sq inch frame, dense pattern and low flex. Just asking to be bossed around the court.

Once I get older and a step slower I will have to transition to a Pro Staff 97 or something...The vcore 95 is not an easy racket to play with but I really like it on the one handed backhand...

I actually wish they made an extended version of this frame too. That would be nice too.
To be fair, you could go quite a bit lower in RA than the 2018 VC95 and not be a super flexible wet noodle, as I don't think that's what @Classic-TXP-IG MID was suggesting, especially taking into account his point about a more uniform flex. I loved the VC95 2021 at first but ended up being a bit frustrated because it didn't have most consistent response off the stringbed and it didn't offer as much power as I'd liked relative to its stiffness (compared, to say, the EZ98, which has the same RA but has both a consistent stringbed response and way more easy power).

The appeal of a 95 square inch, dense pattern, low flex frame is that assuming you have the mass/plowthrough/swingweight (which the VC95 2021 does not have, stock) you can hit flat and accurate and heavy, but that doesn't sound like your game, so no need to be too concerned about it.

Sometimes I want to repurchase a VC95 2021 though because I agree it's really great on the OHBH (and it's pretty).
 

aaron_h27

Hall of Fame
To be fair, you could go quite a bit lower in RA than the 2018 VC95 and not be a super flexible wet noodle, as I don't think that's what @Classic-TXP-IG MID was suggesting, especially taking into account his point about a more uniform flex. I loved the VC95 2021 at first but ended up being a bit frustrated because it didn't have most consistent response off the stringbed and it didn't offer as much power as I'd liked relative to its stiffness (compared, to say, the EZ98, which has the same RA but has both a consistent stringbed response and way more easy power).

The appeal of a 95 square inch, dense pattern, low flex frame is that assuming you have the mass/plowthrough/swingweight (which the VC95 2021 does not have, stock) you can hit flat and accurate and heavy, but that doesn't sound like your game, so no need to be too concerned about it.

Sometimes I want to repurchase a VC95 2021 though because I agree it's really great on the OHBH (and it's pretty).
Doesn't the extra power from the Ezone come from the larger head size, higher twistweight and more open string pattern? Or is there some different mechanism going on with the way the stiffness is setup?

As far as the VC 95, I wouldn't want it to be any more underpowered than it already is...(If they can make it more flexible without losing any pop im all for it) I'm already at 345g, 340 SW, 5-6 pts HL and that's about as much as I can swing.
 
Demo’d this again bc I’m sure it’ll be on close out sales soon with the 23’ update. I couldn’t dial in. Not a bad racket. Surprisingly surgical on serves. But couldn’t dial in with my ground strokes.

I find the isometric head is just odd to me. Which is why I’ ended up selling my Ezones and switched in January.
You should demo a 98 it plays a lot more normal the 95 is strange and difficult to use
 

aaron_h27

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Guys im really debating if I want to extend my VC95's by 1/4 inch. I know a guy who does modifications but once he does it I can't go back. Hmm
 

naturalexponent

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Doesn't the extra power from the Ezone come from the larger head size, higher twistweight and more open string pattern? Or is there some different mechanism going on with the way the stiffness is setup?

As far as the VC 95, I wouldn't want it to be any more underpowered than it already is...(If they can make it more flexible without losing any pop im all for it) I'm already at 345g, 340 SW, 5-6 pts HL and that's about as much as I can swing.
Certainly, it's a combination of things, but the point was rather that the cost-benefit of the added stiffness didn't seem worth it to me, i.e., you don't get as much power from the added stiffness as you might expect, and some people just can't handle stiffer racquets for health reasons. If you look at the power potential tool on TW, it's pretty on par between the 2018 and 2021. I'm actually pretty skeptical that stiffness in and of itself is what gives you power as much as it is other specs like weight/swingweight/balance/string pattern. My pop-engineering thoughts are that additional rigidity is a necessary by product of lighter racquets with less mass is for structural integrity, not so much for power per se.
 

aaron_h27

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Certainly, it's a combination of things, but the point was rather that the cost-benefit of the added stiffness didn't seem worth it to me, i.e., you don't get as much power from the added stiffness as you might expect, and some people just can't handle stiffer racquets for health reasons. If you look at the power potential tool on TW, it's pretty on par between the 2018 and 2021. I'm actually pretty skeptical that stiffness in and of itself is what gives you power as much as it is other specs like weight/swingweight/balance/string pattern. My pop-engineering thoughts are that additional rigidity is a necessary by product of lighter racquets with less mass is for structural integrity, not so much for power per se.
I don't think going from 64 RA to 66 RA would all of sudden give people tennis elbow and there are many frames that play nothing like their RA rating. Like for example the Ezone Tour which has an RA of 62, many people said it felt uncomfortable and gave them tennis elbow. Or the Iga Swiatek racket which has a RA of 71 yet many people say it plays more comfortable because of the foam filling.

Similar to how you don't believe higher stiffness adds any significant power, I'm pretty skeptical of low RA being the primary reason for a "arm friendly" racket.

So I would like to see a bit higher RA (nothing crazy like 65 or 66 around Pro Staff territory) and perhaps 16x19 to offset the additional stiffness and give some additional pop (if they can add pop without making the frame heavier or increasing RA then that would be best ideally)

I do know that larger head size & higher stiffness you can get away with a overall lighter racket which is sort of what Fed did when going from the 90 > 97. He was using 360~ SW with his 90 and once he switched to the 97 with a bit higher RA he was able to go down to 340~ SW.
 
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