7 years ago today - Slam Race changed forever

[Kralingen]

August 6, 2014 - Slam count was:
Federer (33) = 17
Nadal (28)= 14
Djokovic (27) = 7

Two events occurred this week which would forever change the Slam Race...

#1 - Rafael Nadal suffers wrist injury at Canadian Open practice, causing him to pull out of US Open - later, he would require appendix removal, and miss the rest of the season
#2 - Roger Federer turns 33 years old: at that point in time, Ken Rosewall was the only Grand Slam champion aged 33 or above

In one week, the two most successful Grand Slam players suffered irreversible damage to their game - Nadal, a wrist injury and appendix meaning he would never approach his pre-2014 levels again, and Federer, turning 33, regarded as a death knell for a player's Slam-winning career at the time.

To add insult to injury, Grigor Dimitrov lost to Tsonga in the Canadian Open. it would be 3 more years until a player born in the 1990s won even a Masters tournament, and 6 more until they won a Slam.

In the following 7 years Djokovic has won 13 Grand Slams, facing the weakest generation of all time (LostGen) and NextGen, a declined Nadal who struggled with injuries, and a Federer headed the wrong direction.

What are your thoughts?

 

[pj80]

2014 was when Fed 2.0 emerged...new racquet, new found motivation....Fed 2.0 was only able to be stopped by 1 man

 

[weakera]

Nadal 2017 was one of his best ever clay forms.

 

[El_Yotamo]

Nadal did come back in late 2014 for Beijing (l. Klizan) Shanghai (l. Lopez) and Basel (l. Coric). Other than that this is spot on (as partly evidenced by the names shown here who beat Nadal then)

 

[Legend of Borg]

And then in 2015 we got to experience absolute peak Fed, the best we've ever seen, firing on all cylinders. Most likely would have straight setted his 2004-2006 younger self.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Djokovic is the Real GOAT

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

August 6, 2014 - Slam count was:
Federer (33) = 17
Nadal (28)= 14
Djokovic (27) = 7

Two events occurred this week which would forever change the Slam Race...

#1 - Rafael Nadal suffers wrist injury at Canadian Open practice, causing him to pull out of US Open - later, he would require appendix removal, and miss the rest of the season
#2 - Roger Federer turns 33 years old: at that point in time, Ken Rosewall was the only Grand Slam champion aged 33 or above

In one week, the two most successful Grand Slam players suffered irreversible damage to their game - Nadal, a wrist injury and appendix meaning he would never approach his pre-2014 levels again, and Federer, turning 33, regarded as a death knell for a player's Slam-winning career at the time.

To add insult to injury, Grigor Dimitrov lost to Tsonga in the Canadian Open. it would be 3 more years until a player born in the 1990s won even a Masters tournament, and 6 more until they won a Slam.

In the following 7 years Djokovic has won 13 Grand Slams, facing the weakest generation of all time (LostGen) and NextGen, a declined Nadal who struggled with injuries, and a Federer headed the wrong direction.

What are your thoughts?

This sounds like a salty post to undermine Djokovic achievements.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Djokovic is the Real GOAT

 

[Kralingen]

This sounds like a salty post to undermine Djokovic achievements.

What pieces of my post do you disagree with, factually? Did I get something wrong?

 

[UnforcedTerror]

The moment history was changed

Becker turned a choking ATG into an undisputed GOAT. Never forget.

 

[Deleted member 748597]

Good bait. 50 pages.

 

[Rafa24]

August 6, 2014 - Slam count was:
Federer (33) = 17
Nadal (28)= 14
Djokovic (27) = 7

Two events occurred this week which would forever change the Slam Race...

#1 - Rafael Nadal suffers wrist injury at Canadian Open practice, causing him to pull out of US Open - later, he would require appendix removal, and miss the rest of the season
#2 - Roger Federer turns 33 years old: at that point in time, Ken Rosewall was the only Grand Slam champion aged 33 or above

In one week, the two most successful Grand Slam players suffered irreversible damage to their game - Nadal, a wrist injury and appendix meaning he would never approach his pre-2014 levels again, and Federer, turning 33, regarded as a death knell for a player's Slam-winning career at the time.

To add insult to injury, Grigor Dimitrov lost to Tsonga in the Canadian Open. it would be 3 more years until a player born in the 1990s won even a Masters tournament, and 6 more until they won a Slam.

In the following 7 years Djokovic has won 13 Grand Slams, facing the weakest generation of all time (LostGen) and NextGen, a declined Nadal who struggled with injuries, and a Federer headed the wrong direction.

What are your thoughts?

Pretty well spot on. Djoker has vultured slams winning 8 of the last 12. He isn't even close to his peak but the competition is so bad now he can keep piling them up.

 

[Biotic]

What are your thoughts?

My thoughts are that slam race would have been over long ago had Djokovic's gluten allergy been diagnosed earlier. Instead, Fedal were lucky to play 2007-2010 two hours max Retireovic.

Otherwise, solid bait effort. 5/10. Far cry from @RS

 

[big ted]

if djoko didnt go off the deep end from mid-2016 to 2018 he would be in the lead right now

 

[Spencer Gore]

The slam race was changed forever by the almost free run Federer had from 2003-06 in the weakest era in tennis history -by a long shot!

Given the quality of opposition Federer had, players like Laver and Borg would have been bitterly disappointed at not winning quadruple Grand Slams -plus the Grand Slams they would have won from 2001-03.

 

[Deleted member 748597]

Pretty well spot on. Djoker has vultured slams winning 8 of the last 12. He isn't even close to his peak but the competition is so bad now he can keep piling them up.

But Djokovic pounded your boy at his own pet Slam.

 

[RS]

Nadal 2017 was one of his best ever clay forms.

Better than RG 2008 ?

 

[RS]

August 6, 2014 - Slam count was:
Federer (33) = 17
Nadal (28)= 14
Djokovic (27) = 7

Two events occurred this week which would forever change the Slam Race...

#1 - Rafael Nadal suffers wrist injury at Canadian Open practice, causing him to pull out of US Open - later, he would require appendix removal, and miss the rest of the season
#2 - Roger Federer turns 33 years old: at that point in time, Ken Rosewall was the only Grand Slam champion aged 33 or above

In one week, the two most successful Grand Slam players suffered irreversible damage to their game - Nadal, a wrist injury and appendix meaning he would never approach his pre-2014 levels again, and Federer, turning 33, regarded as a death knell for a player's Slam-winning career at the time.

To add insult to injury, Grigor Dimitrov lost to Tsonga in the Canadian Open. it would be 3 more years until a player born in the 1990s won even a Masters tournament, and 6 more until they won a Slam.

In the following 7 years Djokovic has won 13 Grand Slams, facing the weakest generation of all time (LostGen) and NextGen, a declined Nadal who struggled with injuries, and a Federer headed the wrong direction.

What are your thoughts?

Bitter?

 

[weakera]

Better than RG 2008 ?

Not necessarily but top... 5 if not 4/3

 

[Kralingen]

Bitter?

What's there to be bitter about?

 

[Nole_The_Champion]

My thoughts are that slam race would have been over long ago had Djokovic's gluten allergy been diagnosed earlier. Instead, Fedal were lucky to play 2007-2010 two hours max Retireovic.

Otherwise, solid bait effort. 5/10. Far cry from @RS

And that is thread worthy, as much as this one.

Fedal vultured slams in that period
because of Novak's health problem.

 

[Deleted member 748597]

We need to analyze the following 7 years a little deeper than that.

 

[Biotic]

And that is thread worthy, as much as this one.

Fedal vultured slams in that period
because of Novak's health problem.

It is thread worthy as much as 2019 Wimbledon tbh. Just 1 single slam more for him means 1 less for Fedal = 21-20-19. At the very least, few of those eight slams in 2009-2010 were perfectly within reach for prime Djoko.

 

[Milanez82]

August 6, 2014 - Slam count was:
Federer (33) = 17
Nadal (28)= 14
Djokovic (27) = 7

Two events occurred this week which would forever change the Slam Race...

#1 - Rafael Nadal suffers wrist injury at Canadian Open practice, causing him to pull out of US Open - later, he would require appendix removal, and miss the rest of the season
#2 - Roger Federer turns 33 years old: at that point in time, Ken Rosewall was the only Grand Slam champion aged 33 or above

In one week, the two most successful Grand Slam players suffered irreversible damage to their game - Nadal, a wrist injury and appendix meaning he would never approach his pre-2014 levels again, and Federer, turning 33, regarded as a death knell for a player's Slam-winning career at the time.

To add insult to injury, Grigor Dimitrov lost to Tsonga in the Canadian Open. it would be 3 more years until a player born in the 1990s won even a Masters tournament, and 6 more until they won a Slam.

In the following 7 years Djokovic has won 13 Grand Slams, facing the weakest generation of all time (LostGen) and NextGen, a declined Nadal who struggled with injuries, and a Federer headed the wrong direction.

What are your thoughts?

It changed in 2011 when Djokovic 2.0 arrived.

 

[Backspin1183]

This year could be decisive too after what happened at the Olympics. PCB may have broken Djokovic's will. Hasn't even confirmed for Canada or Cincinnati since.

 

[Rafa24]

The slam race was changed forever by the almost free run Federer had from 2003-06 in the weakest era in tennis history -by a long shot!

Given the quality of opposition Federer had, players like Laver and Borg would have been bitterly disappointed at not winning quadruple Grand Slams -plus the Grand Slams they would have won from 2001-03.

Djokers 8 of the last 12 is as weak or weaker competition than Feds 03-06.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

This year could be decisive too after what happened at the Olympics. PCB may have broken Djokovic's will. Hasn't even confirmed for Canada or Cincinnati since.

I doubt it. Djokovic is as strong as they come mentally he’ll be back strong. Djokovic is wise to take a break now until the us open. I think he’ll just rest till then.

 

[MichaelNadal]

zzzzzzzzz

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

What pieces of my post do you disagree with, factually? Did I get something wrong?

You are trying to make out only Djokovic benefited from the period of a weaker era. That’s just simply not true at all. As there’s been many slams Fedal have vultured over their careers.

As well as using the lame injury card excuse for why Djokovic has passed them. When really it’s just Djokovic is better than both of them over the course of their careers.

 

[Backspin1183]

I doubt it. Djokovic is as strong as they come mentally he’ll be back strong. Djokovic is wise to take a break now until the us open. I think he’ll just rest till then.

I guess he will given some more time to rest and heal from the hurt caused by PCB.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Good bait. 50 pages.

The reasons why Kralingen was ATG.

 

[Omega_7000]

August 6, 2014 - Slam count was:
Federer (33) = 17
Nadal (28)= 14
Djokovic (27) = 7

Two events occurred this week which would forever change the Slam Race...

#1 - Rafael Nadal suffers wrist injury at Canadian Open practice, causing him to pull out of US Open - later, he would require appendix removal, and miss the rest of the season
#2 - Roger Federer turns 33 years old: at that point in time, Ken Rosewall was the only Grand Slam champion aged 33 or above

In one week, the two most successful Grand Slam players suffered irreversible damage to their game - Nadal, a wrist injury and appendix meaning he would never approach his pre-2014 levels again, and Federer, turning 33, regarded as a death knell for a player's Slam-winning career at the time.

To add insult to injury, Grigor Dimitrov lost to Tsonga in the Canadian Open. it would be 3 more years until a player born in the 1990s won even a Masters tournament, and 6 more until they won a Slam.

In the following 7 years Djokovic has won 13 Grand Slams, facing the weakest generation of all time (LostGen) and NextGen, a declined Nadal who struggled with injuries, and a Federer headed the wrong direction.

What are your thoughts?

Absofreakinlutely spot on!

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

I guess he will given some more time to rest and heal from the hurt caused by PCB.

PCB already did his worst last year in New York. Djokovic will just shake it off like he always does. He gets over big disappointments better than anyone. He has also got plenty of motivation ahead with the chance of CYGS and record 21 slams to refocus him. Having his full team back will help too.

 

[Spencer Gore]

Djokers 8 of the last 12 is as weak or weaker competition than Feds 03-06.

Not a chance. It's not Federer's fault but, boy, did the field open up for him in a unique fashion.

 

[Kralingen]

We need to analyze the following 7 years a little deeper than that.

Perhaps the merits of Andy Murray's resume could be discussed.

In my opinion, his back surgery kept him from obliterating the competition, as he had beaten Djokovic decisively in 2 Slam finals from 2012-2013. However, it did not keep him from being an ATG.

 

[RS]

What's there to be bitter about?

Not giving your 2nd fav enough credit?

 

[Kralingen]

You are trying to make out only Djokovic benefited from the period of a weaker era. That’s just simply not true at all. As there’s been many slams Fedal have vultured over their careers.

As well as using the lame injury card excuse for why Djokovic has passed them. When really it’s just Djokovic is better than before of them over the course of their careers.

Not giving your 2nd fav enough credit?

I was intentionally neutral in my use of facts, though. Nothing in my post mentioned Djokovic's level of play, which I think was excellent and deserving of many Slams during this period.

Do you feel that 34-36 year old Federer and 2015-2021 Nadal as rivals were weak competition?

 

[RS]

I was intentionally neutral in my use of facts, though. Nothing in my post mentioned Djokovic's level of play, which I think was excellent and deserving of many Slams during this period.

Do you feel that 34-36 year old Federer and 2015-2021 Nadal as rivals were weak competition?

I don't use that word know but this doesn't sound like what a Djokovic fan would post

 

[Deleted member 748597]

I was intentionally neutral in my use of facts, though. Nothing in my post mentioned Djokovic's level of play, which I think was excellent and deserving of many Slams during this period.

Do you feel that 34-36 year old Federer and 2015-2021 Nadal as rivals were weak competition?

Old Federer at Wimbledon wasn't weak competition

Yeah, it was post-prime Federer. Yeah, if peak Federer and peak Djokovic played each other four times on grass, the Swiss would probably win three of those matches. But it was still Federer at Wimbledon. And let's be honest, he didn't always play that bad. This is me complimenting the Swiss...

tt.tennis-warehouse.com

 

[Deleted member 771911]

The past is a foreign country now

 

[Kralingen]

I don't use that word know but this doesn't sound like what a Djokovic fan would post

Hm, how about

2014 USO SF Nishikori vs. 2018 USO F Del Potro
2013 Wimby F Murray vs. 2018 Wimby SF Nadal
2015 FO F Wawrinka vs. 2021 FO SF Nadal

 

[RS]

Hm, how about

2014 USO SF Nishikori vs. 2018 USO F Del Potro
2013 Wimby F Murray vs. 2018 Wimby SF Nadal
2015 FO F Wawrinka vs. 2021 FO SF Nadal

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

August 6, 2014 - Slam count was:
Federer (33) = 17
Nadal (28)= 14
Djokovic (27) = 7

Two events occurred this week which would forever change the Slam Race...

#1 - Rafael Nadal suffers wrist injury at Canadian Open practice, causing him to pull out of US Open - later, he would require appendix removal, and miss the rest of the season
#2 - Roger Federer turns 33 years old: at that point in time, Ken Rosewall was the only Grand Slam champion aged 33 or above

In one week, the two most successful Grand Slam players suffered irreversible damage to their game - Nadal, a wrist injury and appendix meaning he would never approach his pre-2014 levels again, and Federer, turning 33, regarded as a death knell for a player's Slam-winning career at the time.

To add insult to injury, Grigor Dimitrov lost to Tsonga in the Canadian Open. it would be 3 more years until a player born in the 1990s won even a Masters tournament, and 6 more until they won a Slam.

In the following 7 years Djokovic has won 13 Grand Slams, facing the weakest generation of all time (LostGen) and NextGen, a declined Nadal who struggled with injuries, and a Federer headed the wrong direction.

What are your thoughts?

Fed should not have let nole off the hook after miraculously snatching the 4th set, that win rejuvenated nole.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

I was intentionally neutral in my use of facts, though. Nothing in my post mentioned Djokovic's level of play, which I think was excellent and deserving of many Slams during this period.

Do you feel that 34-36 year old Federer and 2015-2021 Nadal as rivals were weak competition?

No they weren’t weak rivals. I could say though that Novak was weaker for fed and Rafa before 2011. That wouldn’t be fair in Fedal early achievements even though Novak had not hit his peak form yet. They still faced a strong Novak but not a peak or experienced one.

 

[RS]

Hm, how about

2014 USO SF Nishikori vs. 2018 USO F Del Potro
2013 Wimby F Murray vs. 2018 Wimby SF Nadal
2015 FO F Wawrinka vs. 2021 FO SF Nadal

It would work if you did it on a popular thread with more matchups.

 

[Backspin1183]

PCB already did his worst last year in New York. Djokovic will just shake it off like he always does. He gets over big disappointments better than anyone. He has also got plenty of motivation ahead with the chance of CYGS and record 21 slams to refocus him. Having his full team back will help too.

I hope you're right. It wouldn't feel right if PCB of all people is the one to stop Djokovic's momentum.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

I hope you're right. It wouldn't feel right if PCB of all people is the one to stop Djokovic's momentum.

Time will tell. If PCB has finished off the joker for good this time haha

 

[Deleted member 748597]

It would work if you did it on a popular thread with more matchups.

Are you saying that this thread isn't popular?

 

[RS]

Are you saying that this thread isn't popular?

Not yet.

 

[Backspin1183]

Time will tell. If PCB has finished off the joker for good this time haha