? about the USTA 7.0 55+ league

[Mongolmike]

With the USTA going to age based leagues this year, I was curious about the 55 and over 7.0 league. Why isn't this considered a combo league?

And the reason I am curious is because if it was a combo league, then it would not count towards an individuals USTA ranking- correct? But the 55+ 7.0 league does count... and it's my understanding that since it is 3 doubles lines, some of the lines could be composed of a 4.0 and a 3.0... seems like a combo to me. Is this just an anomoly? Just a way to get more 55 and older people to join a league?

 

[Spokewench]

It is a combo league. It is up to the District/section sometimes as to when certain leagues count towards your individual ntrp so maybe it is just within your section?

 

[Mongolmike]

It is a combo league. It is up to the District/section sometimes as to when certain leagues count towards your individual ntrp so maybe it is just within your section?

Hmmm. Interesting. I know the TLS site is not the be-all end-all, but for my area that site has the 55+ 7.0 counting towards individual rating for people who also played regular 40+ 3.5 leagues.

 

[Spokewench]

There is really no reason why a 40 3.5 league would not count to your ntrp rating because you are playing all 3.5 rated players. It should county towards your ntrp. USTA does not differentiate between age group and levels. If you are a 3.5, you are a 3.5, whether your age is 19 or 55

 

[schmke]

The Super Senior leagues have always been "Combo" leagues (at least in recent years) but haven't been called or designated "Combo". I don't see what they are doing with the 55+ league to be any different.

 

[Jkates]

There is really no reason why a 40 3.5 league would not count to your ntrp rating because you are playing all 3.5 rated players. It should county towards your ntrp. USTA does not differentiate between age group and levels. If you are a 3.5, you are a 3.5, whether your age is 19 or 55

It's a nice thought, but think about it at the 4.5 and 5.0 levels and tell me age wouldn't make a considerable difference. That guy that is playing upper age groups then gets bumped to 5.0, what are the chances of him being able to play 5.0 on an 18 and Over team?

 

[schmke]

It's a nice thought, but think about it at the 4.5 and 5.0 levels and tell me age wouldn't make a considerable difference. That guy that is playing upper age groups then gets bumped to 5.0, what are the chances of him being able to play 5.0 on an 18 and Over team?

You are making the assumption that the upper age group 4.5 gets bumped to 5.0. If he doesn't deserve to be, he probably doesn't and there is no issue. If he does get bumped, he probably deserves to.

 

[Mongolmike]

The Super Senior leagues have always been "Combo" leagues (at least in recent years) but haven't been called or designated "Combo". I don't see what they are doing with the 55+ league to be any different.

Thanks. I was not aware of this, but noticed it when looking at projected ratings on the TLS site. Wonder why they just don't go ahead and designate it combo then?

So for USTA purposes (rather than the TLS projections) do the 55+ matches count towards a rating if the player also has matches in 40+?

What about another player who only played 55+ this year.. do those matches affect his rating if that was the only league he played? (tho last year he played only the normal 18+ 3.5)

Thanks.

 

[Mongolmike]

There is really no reason why a 40 3.5 league would not count to your ntrp rating because you are playing all 3.5 rated players. It should county towards your ntrp. USTA does not differentiate between age group and levels. If you are a 3.5, you are a 3.5, whether your age is 19 or 55

Yes, I am aware of that, thanks.

 

[storypeddler]

You are making the assumption that the upper age group 4.5 gets bumped to 5.0. If he doesn't deserve to be, he probably doesn't and there is no issue. If he does get bumped, he probably deserves to.

Well...in spite of what the USTA says about rating levels, a 60 year old 4.0 player and a 19 year old 4.0 player are not the same thing. At 4.5 the difference would become apparent even more quickly. They might be the same when the match starts, but the 60 year old is losing ground every point after that.