Yeah, low to the ground feel and stability at expense of comfort, cushioning and lack of maneuverability (bulkiness) doesn't really sound like a winner to me. Isn't exactly an innovation in my book. Well unless you count the laceless bit. But yeah, like I said earlier unless they tweak the shoe they're going nowhere with this, fast.
Yeah, I agree. Interestingly enough Mark, Jason and Troy all mentioned what I had said in my detailed review as well. I too felt the lack of cushioning and comfort to be bothersome and the shoes to feel bulky. The laceless bit to give stability, in my humble opinion, is a dud given the associated negatives it comes with.
Surely you mean that for the Stycon design and not all laceless shoes?
Yes, that is what I meant. I'm sure laceless concept shoes work great in multiple areas (basketball etc) and provide requisite stability minus the comfort related flaws. But the Stycons, in particular, didn't impress me.
Imitation is the highest form of flattery, and so I have no doubt that there will be many companies that will try to imitate that concept.
Well said, full points to Adidas for trying. If they do go ahead and somehow are able to make the concept work down the line with tweaks etc, I'm def down with the program. But Stycons, that were advertised as the laceless next coming of tennis shoeware I wouldn't consider a success personally.
Yes, I agree. And I have spoken with multiple regional Adidas reps about it and Stycon's big marketing spiel slash selling point, in fact the whole introduction of it, is that it is a midcut style laceless shoe with an innovative new design that allows it to be what is without laces. No one said "the new, super stable, low to the ground shoe"lol, well, Stanislav Goussev, the senior design director for Stycon project (who was also in the marketing video titled Adidas Stycon: behind the design of the first laceless tennis shoe), clearly suggests that the design template of the shoe started with keeping in mind that the shoe was going to be a midcut and laceless shoe. It was then that they started working on how to provide stability using the deeper midsole cushion and how the upper with bends would encapsulate the foot.
Also the Category Director Daniel Nueurberg mentions proudly that they have made the first laceless shoe in tennis now available to purchase from Tennis Warehouse . And that they have managed to give the shoe support and stability using a laceless design. That is clearly their marketing and selling point for Stycon. The stability bit is what they are saying is excellent using this new design. Hard to disagree with it really (unless you have a bruised ego or something that you want to stroke using irrelevant info)
Oh, and comfort issues due to the fit and design of the shoe especially when 3/4 playtesters (with different feet shapes and arches) bring those up, well that is a red flag and a shoe problem. Just throwing it out there.
Yes, I agree. And I have spoken with multiple regional Adidas reps about it and Stycon's big marketing spiel slash selling point, in fact the whole introduction of it, is that it is a midcut style laceless shoe with an innovative new design that allows it to be what is without laces. No one said "the new, super stable, low to the ground shoe"
Yes, true. And may I add that when you start your design project with already a silhouette of the shoe in mind and knowing it has to be laceless for the sake of 'innovation', as the design team for Stycon did, its a fool's errand to argue the raison d'etre any other way. As haqq above pointed out, they didn't push the shoe in market for it's low-to-the-ground raw feel, or stability etc. It was the laceless bit (which should be very very obvious).lol, well, Stanislav Goussev, the senior design director for Stycon project (who was also in the marketing video titled Adidas Stycon: behind the design of the first laceless tennis shoe), clearly suggests that the design template of the shoe started with keeping in mind that the shoe was going to be a midcut and laceless shoe. It was then that they started working on how to provide stability using the deeper midsole cushion and how the upper with bends would encapsulate the foot.
Also the Category Director Daniel Nueurberg mentions proudly that they have made the first laceless shoe in tennis now available to purchase from Tennis Warehouse . And that they have managed to give the shoe support and stability using a laceless design. That is clearly their marketing and selling point for Stycon. The stability bit is what they are saying is excellent using this new design. Hard to disagree with it really (unless you have a bruised ego or something that you want to stroke using irrelevant info)
Oh, and comfort issues due to the fit and design of the shoe especially when 3/4 playtesters (with different feet shapes and arches) bring those up, well that is a red flag and a shoe problem. Just throwing it out there.
I usually dislike youtube videos but my take of this review, from the few points I saw in that video, it's not surprisingly the guy who is on his forefeet the most, and thus lightest on his feet, is also the guy who likes the shoe the most. Those who lamented for more cushioning tended to be heavier with their footwork.
Where are you getting these quotes from? Sounds to me like the person you've quoted is a very educated native-english speaker but not the first language. The 2 design functions are the result of the high sidewall design, so it's not 2 separate design features, but one integral design to deals with these 2 functions.
This is indeed a great video about different ways to tie laces. I am a big believer in lack locks as well whenever needed. That thing works! Thanks for sharing.
Height of trolling I mean he even added his own thoughts in alleged cherry picked quotes mixing it all up. I mean I swear, lengths people go to trying to cover their losing arguments!
Amen.
Well, to be honest, atleast 4 posters including myself have talked about the issues and demerits of the shoe having firsthand experience with it. You make it sound like we all are taking a dump on the shoe for no reason. Not fair to assume that, certainly not the case.
never made it. My issue was fit. the 2nd one was weird. It was tight and loose at the same time. 1st one was tight on one foot. 2nd one I couldnt just sit with it on. After a while I had to take them off because of discomfort. But when walking parts seemed loose.
Yeah... Adidas and tsitsipas really didn’t flow with the stycon, he never wore it during a professional match, so I don’t know what’s up there, and now the shoe is being marked down.
That looks great! Not sure how the BOA system changes the feel of the shoe though. BOA works with a thicker tongue so the thin laces don't cut into the foot. The real appeal are the bands for me. But this for more people with wider foot types.
Depends on whether the cross band, which is the hindrance to foot entry/exit, is removed. The sockliner, looking at my Stycon, isn't thick enough to prevent the thin BOA laces from being felt I think. My other BOA shoes have thick tongues. Still I'm trying to get confirmation from the TW staff before purchasing.
I would suggest you try it out if you're looking for close to ground and stable shoes. Personally I think the BOA was a co-production which was never coming out to market. The fact that there are 3 different colors for the Stycon v1.0 shows this.
Imma be honest, I haven’t worn a pair of shoes for over a month. Quarantine is a blessing and a curse.
It feels like a sock already in the ankle. With socks on, it feels like a thin neoprene compression/brace like fit around and just above the malleolus/ankle bones, but not around the calcaneus/heel area, so it's brace like in a way, but very light. It's one of the great points about the Stycon.
Hmm okay. My ankles are probably on the narrower end as I usually have issues with heel hold, but the brace does widen it quite a bit. My complaint with my SCB and my brace is that it is quite difficult to tighten the shoe down with the brace because there's no heel lock holes for the laces. BOA would in theory allow me to crank the shoe down easily. I may just need to buy a pair and try it out.
I have a history of chronic left ankle sprains and recently severely sprained my right ankle so I am a little scared to go without my ankle brace. I am using a more rigid ankle brace. I may just need to order one and see what it's like. I found that while maybe I don't roll my ankle as often in SCB, the expanded outsole ridge made the sprains far more severe. The Stycon might be better without it.
