Sounds good except this was his break through year having won Wimbledon previous but nothing otherwise, BUT he won. This can be done with Agassi as well, Flushing meadows,
LOST 88 - Lendl
LOST 89 - Lendl
LOST 90 - Sampras (Seed 12 not the No.1 variatety)
LOST 91 - Kristen (Unseeded)
LOST 92 - Courier
LOST 93 - Enquist
94 - WON
LOST 95 - Samprass
LOST 96 - Chang
LOST 97 - Rafter
LOST 98 - Kucera
99 - WON
LOST 00 - Clement
LOST 01 - Sampras
LOST 02 - Sampras
LOST 03 - Ferrero
LOST 04 - Federer
LOST 05 - B Becker
So pulling one match out where he went with a newly arrived Federer does not look so good when you look at his hole career at on his best surface. Especially when you consider Connors took him to 5 in 89, OLD man, SICK man Connors nearly beat him in his break through year!
FTR, connors wasn't playing badly and certainly wasn't sick.
Why not 96, 97, 98 & 00 Athletic Agassi, because he was spotty and all over the place. In 95 he finished 2nd ahead of Muster by less 300pt, Noel is better than Muster throughout his entire career. He would kill Agassiathletic Agassi of some those 90s years like 95,99,01,02.
And again we are talking 34-35 year old Agassi at Flushing. His peak Game for Flushing was already YEARS before that. 34-35 year old Agassi
So pick a year he would do well? What was his peak period? Which sequential three years did he do well? Please explain with an example what years he was a great player able to actually compete with Djokovic. His tendency is to lose to unseeded players or beat low seeds in the two finals!!! Stick ended up 9th by end of that year! Not really a top 4 was he.
You mean the peak when he lost to,
LOST 88 - Lendl
LOST 89 - Lendl - Aging Lendl
LOST 90 - Sampras (Seed 12 not the No.1 variety)
LOST 91 - Kristen (Unseeded)
LOST 92 - Courier (Seeded 1)
LOST 93 - Enquist (Unseeded)
94 - WON (Beat Stick seeded 4th)
LOST 95 - Sampras (Seeded 2)
LOST 96 - Chang (Seeded 2)
LOST 97 - Rafter (Seeded 13)
LOST 98 - Kucera (Seeded 9)
99 - WON (Beat Martin Seeded 7)
LOST 00 - Clement (Unseeded)
HmmDjokovic is greater then Andre Agassi. He played in a more difficult era with two of the greatest players of all time with another 4+ great super consistent players in the wings. Djokovic might be like Agassi, getting the majority of his GS when his main challengers in this case RF & Rafa retire or start breaking down.
Djokovic
GS - 6 wins, 6 RU, 9 SF
Agassi
GS - 7 wins, 7 RU, 11 SF
By the end of 2015 Djokovic should have another 2 wins, 2 RU & 2 SF.
Novak won the most slams in the 2010s decade and had the most weeks at #1. Try harderAndre Agassi was the second best in his era while Novak Djokovic is the third best in his era.
Therefore Agassi > Djokovic.
But if Novak (or any other player for that matter) has to play under 90s conditions they would train for that. We can see how Novak has changed his game over the years, including improving his serve, and fast courts are probably his favorite right now.Its so hard to compare because 20-30 years is a BIG difference in conditions.
Medium-fast courts, Agassi would conquer because of his ability to the take ball early and dictate play from neutral court. Slow Courts, Djoker would reign supreme. It would be a pretty even rivalry like Nadal/Djoker was. These conditions, Djoker would obviously dominate, but in 90s-early 2000s conditions Agassi would dominate Djoker
They are both elite players in terms of forehands, backhands, and returns. Where Djokovic ultimately wins out is the serve, movement, and defense.
But if Novak (or any other player for that matter) has to play under 90s conditions they would train for that. We can see how Novak has changed his game over the years, including improving his serve, and fast courts are probably his favorite right now.
On slow courts sure.. On medium to fast courts, No.. Djoker's speed and stamina is neutralized. Mediume/Fast courts are about aggressiveness and dictating play and controlling the court
And serve, where Djokovic has a big edge over Agassi.
Novak has the record for weeks at #1, co record for YE1, winning H2h against the other two, ahead of Federer on slams won at the same age and only 1 behind Nadal at the same age. And he’s the third best?Andre Agassi was the second best in his era while Novak Djokovic is the third best in his era. Therefore Agassi > Djokovic.
It’s all mathematics so you don’t need to reply. There is really nothing to debate, what I wrote is a fact not an opinion.
Sure but Novak is at least Andre’s equal on ROS but has a better serve. Also Novak has shown an ability to adapt over and over and improve his game when many thought he was down forAgassi was arguably the greatest return of serve player of all time (or one of them) , so as improved as Djoker's serve became, He still aint no Sampras on the Serve so Hes gonna have his issues holding serve against Andre.
Sure but Novak is at least Andre’s equal on ROS but has a better serve. Also Novak has shown an ability to adapt over and over and improve his game when many thought he was down for
Racket and string technology also changed. surfaces became slower because the ball can be hit harder and with more precision.Djoker isn't playing on the type of conditions that Andre did. Agassi was the one of the few (Maybe the only one?) baseliners at the time that won Wimbledon when it was a nightmare for a baseliner. I don't consider "djoker's adaptation" even remotely on par to Andre's in that regard. Djoker doesn't play on fast grand slam surfaces. And never has. When he did close to that (Wimbledon 2012) we saw what happened. Djoker plays a game that is conducive to his style of play. Slow grinding courts.
Ive always said Andre is the ONLY Player with the "true Grandslam" Fed/Djokovic/Nadal play on homogenized conditions. Easier to adapt. Laver doesn't even compare. He didn't win a slam on hards. Agassi has the ultimate diversified prize
Novak has the record for weeks at #1, co record for YE1, winning H2h against the other two, ahead of Federer on slams won at the same age and only 1 behind Nadal at the same age. And he’s the third best?
do you never get tired of trolling the same thing over and over and then disappearing when he wins another slam?
You are going to run away again once Novak has another big win, aren’t you?The best, yet he never won a slam in straight sets in his life? Never won any tournament 10 times? Never won a slam 4 or 5 consecutive times? Never won a set against Kyrgios? Third in slams in his own era? Disqualified in a slam? A hardcourt specialist who has won the biggest hardcourt tournament in the world only 3 times? So good this Djokovic.
Fedal > Djokovic. Never forget.
You are going to run away again once Novak has another big win, aren’t you?
He beat Murray in straights at AO 2011 and 2016, Nadal in straights at AO 2019, Anderson in straights at Wimbledon 2018 and Delpo in straights at USO 2018.The best, yet he never won a slam in straight sets in his life? Never won any tournament 10 times? Never won a slam 4 or 5 consecutive times? Never won a set against Kyrgios? Third in slams in his own era? Disqualified in a slam? A hardcourt specialist who has won the biggest hardcourt tournament in the world only 3 times? So good this Djokovic.
Fedal > Djokovic. Never forget.
He beat Murray in straights at AO 2011 and 2016, Nadal in straights at AO 2019, Anderson in straights at Wimbledon 2018 and Delpo in straights at USO 2018.
Never won a tournament 10 times? Well that could change next year. And the fact he nearly has as many titles as Nadal despite this shows how versatile he is
He’s first in slams in his own era. You’re counting the 2000s decade when he was a baby
Lol, you were comfortably posting in the Rome final thread, gloating when Nadal won the first set. And then you disappeared during the 6-1 set loss and didn’t post again until it was clear Nadal had won.I already answered that question, I got temporarily banned since you and your fellow Djokovic fans report everything I post that you don’t like while you are content to repeat things like 40-15 and Clay specialist. I don’t run away and never will. And most importantly I’m not a crybaby.
Djokovic never won a slam in straight sets I’m not talking about a slam match. Every slam he’s won he lost sets along the way while players like Fedal and Borg have won many slams in straight sets from beginning to end. He’s 3rd in this slam race 20-20-18 please stop making excuses for him.
Agassi was only 2nd best in his era not 3rd best.
You are going to run away again once Novak has another big win, aren’t you?
Agassi returned on incredibly fast carpet, super slick grass and very quick HC's. Novak never returned serve on any of those surfaces, so we can only say Andre is the greatest returner of his era, Connors of his and Novak of his era. But most will argue what Andre was returning on was much, much more difficult. His reaction time was far less on a far more demanding surface. Especially when he returned serve while stradling the baseline. We'll never know how well Novak could return on carpet since he never contested a single match on that surface in his professional career.Sure but Novak is at least Andre’s equal on ROS but has a better serve.
Well this is all made up time travel tennis so we’d have to decide what surface this hypothetical match would be played in, what string and racquet technology they use, and whether each player has years to adjust to the conditions they never grew up withAgassi returned on incredibly fast carpet, super slick grass and very quick HC's. Novak never returned serve on any of those surfaces, so we can only say Andre is the greatest returner of his era, Connors of his and Novak of his era. But most will argue what Andre was returning on was much, much more difficult. His reaction time was far less on a far more demanding surface. Especially when he returned serve while stradling the baseline. We'll never know how well Novak could return on carpet since he never contested a single match on that surface in his professional career.
BumpAndre Agassi is greater then Djokovic. He played in a more difficult era with faster courts.