zakopinjo
Rookie
Truth, they really were masters of scheduling. On the other hand, the Spanish simply cannot put together a normal schedule: hard, clay, hard, clay, grass, clay, hard. No wonder they are constantly injured.
Alcaraz withdraws for Rome Masters 2024
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nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
This isn't true.
Carlos Alcaraz has barely played in past 52 weeks. At his age Roger and Novak didn't schedule. They played every event.
This guy is just brittle.
Move
Hall of Fame
It would be interesting to know / compare the intensity of the ATP tour in 2006 compared to 2024.
I have a feeling the matches themselves and of course the physical preparation in the gyms all year around are waaay more intense nowadays. So more wear and tear on the players, and more niggles and injuries as a consequence
nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
I agree that tennis like every sport is evolving. The physicality is insane. But even for that, Carlos would be an exception. He is physical freak like Nadal but getting injured like Delpo.
zakopinjo
Rookie
I am not familiar with the illogical schedules of Novak and Federer in the years when they were tennis relevant.
Move
Hall of Fame
Imo he does not come close to Nadal, he has a smaller, more fragile frame (see his core/glutes). Nadal built like a Tank, unfortunately for him with weak spot in his foot.
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nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
Djokovic was world number 3.
Maybe you are not familiar with tennis at all and posting here.
NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
Finally you are saying what we have been saying for long. Ferrero is useless and has no idea about modern baseline tennis.
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
He has a history of arm issues though, that's a lot different than a twisted ankle. I've already been skeptical of his long term arm health even before this recent injury.
nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
Yes. This is looking to be a recurring issue for life.
zakopinjo
Rookie
What is strange about Novak's schedule in 2007?
nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
Nothing at all.
A young player should play 20 tournaments and more.
Maybe alcaraz being so good to play deep he can play 15. But that's less already. He is very brittle.
FernandoBiH
Rookie
What do you think guys, can he play RG?
Kralingen
Talk Tennis Guru
It’s ironically his most relatable feature. Most every rec player has dealt with this stuff from time to time
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Djokovic played 20 tournaments in 2007 and 19 in 2008. Nadal was around 19 in those years and Federer a little less. Sinner is at 19 right now. Alcaraz is at 17 so not far behind. He's really behind because of the last injury and missing Barcelona and MC. He is quite injury prone though and this is a bit unusual for a young player his age.
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nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
True.
GodlessEndeavor
Semi-Pro
In the TTW thread about his gear there are some recent pictures of one of his racquets labeled as "SOFTER", so they might be trying to tweak his gear:
Carlos Alcaraz is using a stock Pure aero vs
Spend some time playing with heavy/old balls on clay in a country with relatively mild enough winters to be outdoors & see what happens to your sw preferences.
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Kralingen
Talk Tennis Guru
With any luck, he will be ending his employment in Los Angeles shortly.Only one man for the job.
Cupcake
Hall of Fame
You could see this especially in the Los vegas exhibition (Netflix Slam) when the injured Alcaraz played the injured Nadal. Silly for both of them. But it apparently had been cancelled the year before so there was more pressure for them to play.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Alcaraz needs to get pen to paper quickly, before Holger Rune snipes in and steals the golden opportunity.
Kralingen
Talk Tennis Guru
He can hire Ange, who will be joining Ham in the unemployment line this summer with any luck. Big IF whether Levy pulls his finger out of course.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
He will probably play but his chances have gone down significantly imo with a lingering injury this close to RG.
Genie Of the Bank
Hall of Fame
True , but Novak in early age withdraw for some matches to preserve his body. Rafa pushed his body to the limit and we know now which was the more smart strategy for the long run.
socallefty
G.O.A.T.
This is a post from mid-April which suggested he should be resting completely 4-6 weeks at least. Instead he practiced at Barcelona before pulling out and then played Madrid. He might have destroyed his chance for being healthy at Roland Garros as he either will not be able to play or injure himself again. This is not an injury that you just play through and I don’t know what kind of advice he is getting from his team and doctors - particularly true because this is a recurring injury and he said he had the same issue last year.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Carlos, be careful what you wish for. If you want to be Nadal you have to go all the way, injuries and all. You have to take the rough with the smooth.
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NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
Yeah he needed to pay for his house and other bills so he needed that money
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
is RAFA playing in rome ?
JustMy2Cents
Hall of Fame
this list of his injuries is mind boggling
US Open 2021 - abdominal tear, retired from event in the QFs
Turin 2022 - abdominal tear, withdrew
Australian Open 2023 - pain in leg muscle, withdrew
Rio 2023 - grade one strain in hamstring, lost Final to Norrie
Acapulco 2023 - withdrew from event, recovering from hamstring strain
Monte Carlo 2023 - spinal muscles/hand issues, withdrew
Basel 2023 - lower back and foot issues, withdrew
Rio 2024 - retired in first match due to ankle injury
Monte Carlo, Barcelona, Rome 2024 - withdrew due to forearm pain
TheGoldenEra1990’s
Semi-Pro
20-21 years old with the body and health of a 51 year old. Hewitt reincarnated. Sinner too probably. The glass duo
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
Except no 51 year old would dare swing as violently on a 2hb as Carlos knowing it would send him to the ER.
albatros_forehand
Professional
Tsitsipas is serious contender on slow clay. And I don’t like him.
KantenKlaar
Professional
Has Carlos at any time proclaimed himself to be the next Nadal? He admires Nadal, but he is a Federer fan. Carlos is forging his own path and he is doing well.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
So, Jannik Sinner?
Lauren_Girl'
Hall of Fame
It's kinda hilarious how 2 years ago (before he lost to Zverev) people were debating if he would win 3, 5... or 10 RG.
Now with all these injuries + Sinner's advent + more and more players figuring him out + the cramps last year + his poor results on clay since Madrid23,... we are left wondering if we can even put him in the top-3 favorites for RG this year. And if he doesn't win this year, we'll start questionning his chances to even win 1 RG... More young players will improve and become a threat for him in RG in the upcoming years. A lot of players will be dangerous for him this year... if even plays RG. Not sure I'll even trust him if he plays Nadal in the first or second round, for instance. And if a player like Rublev could beat him in Madrid, he'll like his chances in Paris too.
Now with all these injuries + Sinner's advent + more and more players figuring him out + the cramps last year + his poor results on clay since Madrid23,... we are left wondering if we can even put him in the top-3 favorites for RG this year. And if he doesn't win this year, we'll start questionning his chances to even win 1 RG... More young players will improve and become a threat for him in RG in the upcoming years. A lot of players will be dangerous for him this year... if even plays RG. Not sure I'll even trust him if he plays Nadal in the first or second round, for instance. And if a player like Rublev could beat him in Madrid, he'll like his chances in Paris too.
what_army
Semi-Pro
I wouldn’t put Sinner and Alcaraz in the same basket and here’s why:
Sinner clearly said beforehand he wasn’t looking to go deep in madrid, which made a lot of sense because everyone knows madrid is pretty pointless as it’s nothing like RG and hence there’s little to gain from playing there. He played a few matches during the first week and then a tougher match against Katchanov after which he excused himself due to an alleged “hip injury”. Sure, it’s a masters so you can’t simply skip it without coming up with a good excuse.
Alcaraz on the other hand came back from an injury, played a few easier first couple of matches but the played a tough match against Struff where he didn’t look his best at times. On his next match against Rublev it was even clearer that something was off.
To me Alcaraz displays very little schedule management whereas Sinner has his sight set on the bigger events and plans around accordingly.
Sinner clearly said beforehand he wasn’t looking to go deep in madrid, which made a lot of sense because everyone knows madrid is pretty pointless as it’s nothing like RG and hence there’s little to gain from playing there. He played a few matches during the first week and then a tougher match against Katchanov after which he excused himself due to an alleged “hip injury”. Sure, it’s a masters so you can’t simply skip it without coming up with a good excuse.
Alcaraz on the other hand came back from an injury, played a few easier first couple of matches but the played a tough match against Struff where he didn’t look his best at times. On his next match against Rublev it was even clearer that something was off.
To me Alcaraz displays very little schedule management whereas Sinner has his sight set on the bigger events and plans around accordingly.
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MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
From the outside looking in it still looks like a foolish thing to care about with so many big tournaments still to come this year.
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
soldat
Rookie
No need to defend points if you can earn points back by winning other tournaments.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
But you would have double the number of points if you defend them.
