Alex Bolt

J-Wildcard

J-Wildcard

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The hardest hitting player I saw by a long chalk was the young lad matusevic @ the Nottingham Challenger & he was using a nice looking Wilson (6.1 95 maybe?) the stringers will know better than me I'm sure it's always nice to try and get an extra edge from your tech but there's no substitute for raw horsepower, technique and skill, not in that order. Bolts average rally length was about 1-2 shots but he competed very well and it was ashame Gasquet was injured I that final, it was building nicely.
 
bertrevert

bertrevert

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J-Wildcard said:
If you hit big and hard the gravity is a bit clumsy on certain shots, it's great with a big wind up but if you want to step on to short ball say and generate pace quickly it's not happening easily with that frame. There's no way bolty was using a frame that big. Those guys don't need an enlarged sweetspot. They are on the money
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Yeh, just on the shape, also not a lot of feel upper hoop in the Grav (mp). Clumsy, bit vague. The spot gets lost up there. So a half-way house between Grav/Speed might cannibalise not just those users but also Blade/Clash users.

Think a few Head lines have had inverted teradrop shape as a part of them but never so isometric as this.
 
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J-Wildcard

J-Wildcard

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bertrevert said:
Yeh, just on the shape, also not a lot of feel upper hoop in the Grav (mp). Clumsy, bit vague. The spot gets lost up there. So a half-way house between Grav/Speed might cannibalise not just those users but also Blade/Clash users.

Think a few Head lines have had inverted teradrop shape as a part of them but never so isometric as this.
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Yes they did it back in early 2000s with the intelligence I speed, that was some tear drop and the the microgel radical pro was very similar in specs to to the gravity pro with the weight balance head size etc and that was a long time ago now. I guess it is more like the yonex lines which isn't necessarily a bad thing just brings different options to the table. Head moved to opening the string beds up a lot since the early 2000s too as the 18/20 were very tight back then. Over the range the 16/19 seems dominant now which wasn't the case. Once you increase the head size though there is more real estate to play with so 18/20 on a big 100 almost equates to 16/19 on a smaller head 95 depending on where the drilling is. I haven't tired the new prestige line yet, I see they have a few versions but the MP looks to be about where I want things. I have used the gravity and radical and speed and none are where I want things to be. The radical pro looked promising but I prefer softer frame and a bit more control but then I guess that's why they have these lines for different requirements. The key is finding a good all rounder of you want to play all round isn't it. I enjoy touch shots, lobs etc and total control over the ball and I find the prestige IGMP is still one of the best in that regard. I think most use the blade though as it does give a bit more free power, with the prestige you need to be stronger for sure, it's so headlight.
 
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smalahove

smalahove

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Whilst I agree reg there are better options than the GPro for attacking tennis, it’s still the frame (mold) Rublev opted for when switching from the 6.1 95, and he hits a precise ball with heavy pace from the baseline. And there’s that german dude as well.
 
smalahove

smalahove

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J-Wildcard said:
Yes they did it back in early 2000s with the intelligence I speed, that was some tear drop and the the microgel radical pro was very similar in specs to to the gravity pro with the weight balance head size etc and that was a long time ago now. I guess it is more like the yonex lines which isn't necessarily a bad thing just brings different options to the table. Head moved to opening the string beds up a lot since the early 2000s too as the 18/20 were very tight back then. Over the range the 16/19 seems dominant now which wasn't the case. Once you increase the head size though there is more real estate to play with so 18/20 on a big 100 almost equates to 16/19 on a smaller head 95 depending on where the drilling is. I haven't tired the new prestige line yet, I see they have a few versions but the MP looks to be about where I want things. I have used the gravity and radical and speed and none are where I want things to be. The radical pro looked promising but I prefer softer frame and a bit more control but then I guess that's why they have these lines for different requirements. The key is finding a good all rounder of you want to play all round isn't it. I enjoy touch shots, lobs etc and total control over the ball and I find the prestige IGMP is still one of the best in that regard. I think most use the blade though as it does give a bit more free power, with the prestige you need to be stronger for sure, it's so headlight.
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The Prestige MP+ is a great frame, but if it’d the IGPMP feel you want, the PT 2.0 is the closest thing on offer now imo (std retail).
 
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Crozzer95

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J-Wildcard said:
I watched Alex Bolt at Nottingham challenger also in two of his matches, the first one outside it looked like a black head speed but looked like it had blue writing in. Cool looking racket, nicer than novaks black speed. Great battle with Aiden Mchugh, did you see that match?
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It’s a black out with white writing. I wasn’t at Nottingham 2 but saw some bits of it on stream. I was at Eastbourne that week
 
J-Wildcard

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MattCrosby said:
It’s a black out with white writing. I wasn’t at Nottingham 2 but saw some bits of it on stream. I was at Eastbourne that week
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The Head logo on side of frame is blue though, like a cyan light blue. I thought it was the light or my shades were playing tricks on me at first, looked cool on the black frame.
 
J-Wildcard

J-Wildcard

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smalahove said:
The Prestige MP+ is a great frame, but if it’d the IGPMP feel you want, the PT 2.0 is the closest thing on offer now imo (std retail).
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Yes I hear the PT2.0 is nice. To be honest I was after a slight change which I why the prestige specs appeal, just the bigger head to have a play with, I get the feeling it's a more manageable stick than the gravity pro though which was pretty different and too hard to manage with on certain shots and I'd have to make drastic technique changes to still work with. If anything the PT2.0 looks too similar to the IGMP. I still need to have another look at leading the prestige mp up. I tried tungsten at 3 and 9 and then switched it to 12 but maybe I will use the thinner lead next time and go round the upper hoop. Just want it to give a bit more for my backhand and slightly more on serve. As it is, my forehand can cope but when I swing through on the double hander the gravity pro swing weight was nice, but in the BHslice I found it clumsy. It's getting that middle ground to suit my needs.
 
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jdx2112

Hall of Fame
smalahove said:
Whilst I agree reg there are better options than the GPro for attacking tennis, it’s still the frame (mold) Rublev opted for when switching from the 6.1 95, and he hits a precise ball with heavy pace from the baseline. And there’s that german dude as well.
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basilashvili, too.
 
bertrevert

bertrevert

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Guess we not name it?

Well isometric-y 98 looks manoeuvrable and that head shape deliver more kaboom?

Had some 2 yonex ago (Rds 001) and learnt isometric less aerodynamic but offered forgiveness in expanded sweetspot. However this new racq pulled in ar the bottom towards yoke, less even oval, more teardrop, may have more defined sweetspot and cut the air bit better.

New line so flagship (98) first and models to follow.

Reckon they go RAstiff with it? Bolt a baseline belter so I expect it be firm...
 
bertrevert

bertrevert

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emaz8724 said:
We’re looking at a Q1-22 release, right? That Instagram post said 11/1/21, but I thought we were looking at early 2022.
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Yes look I also saw/read sooner rather than later.

However, I got some news that now points to early 2022.

Darn it.
 
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bertrevert

bertrevert

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J-Wildcard said:
intelligence I speed, that was some tear drop and the the microgel radical pro
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That's them yes think the microgel MP was also slightly teardrop too.

Have always thought the teardrop shape sucks a bit of life out of the lower stringbed (certainly with the addition of a thinned bridge at bottom), in order to then deliver that power up top...

Trade-off which pays-off - for hitters who hit high.

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I have used the gravity and radical and speed and none are where I want things to be.
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Yes too true +1 and of those I think the Speed as the halfway house between Grav -> Speed <- Radical

I have only had MPs of all these over the years but overall have found the Speed the most versatile.

Gee Prestiges, don't know but this new line we're glimpsing here looks to be quite a ways different from a Prestige. For one thing think this new racquet has a much shorter/wider throat than the longer Prestige one, hard to tell?
 
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Return_Ace

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A_Instead said:
check mate Head... another GS title....
Tomorrow there will be another...
Glasses up at Head quarters....
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Head actually have a chance to sweep all of the Wimbledon titles this year:

Barty - Women's Singles
Mertens - Women's Doubles
Mektic - Men's Doubles
Djokovic/Berrettini - Men's Singles
Skupski - Mixed Doubles
 
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taylor15

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I have to say, I had never hit head racquets long term before (demos only) until recently and I am a convert. The 360+ line has a great feel and I also like the PT2.0 a lot. Wish the new prestige still had the TK82 pallets, every time I buy another racquet I am in need of them.
 
J-Wildcard

J-Wildcard

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taylor15 said:
I have to say, I had never hit head racquets long term before (demos only) until recently and I am a convert. The 360+ line has a great feel and I also like the PT2.0 a lot. Wish the new prestige still had the TK82 pallets, every time I buy another racquet I am in need of them.
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Interesting, I first tried the squarer pallets on head youtek graphene speed pro and it was OK but the racket and pallets together is a double change. I have never used a prestige with the TK82S Pallets and the same when I'm trying the other frames, such as the gravity and speed, I wonder how they would play with the older style pallets in. It's slight difference but it's still a change when you have used something for a long time and on certain shots you play without thinking it is different.
 
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taylor15

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Interesting, I first tried the squarer pallets on head youtek graphene speed pro and it was OK but the racket and pallets together is a double change. I have never used a prestige with the TK82S Pallets and the same when I'm trying the other frames, such as the gravity and speed, I wonder how they would play with the older style pallets in. It's slight difference but it's still a change when you have used something for a long time and on certain shots you play without thinking it is different.
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I really enjoy the 360+ prestige with the older pallet shape. I find it easier to find my OHBH and continental for volleys. It is slight, but I prefer it for sure.
 
bertrevert

bertrevert

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Rather than this be the Alex Bolt thread shouldn't a thread about this new Head frame (but with no name) be started...?

But then how to start a thread around an embargoed frame we cannot name?
 
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J-Wildcard

J-Wildcard

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Fair play to Bolty, he is showcasing this new racket. The frame looks cool with that cyan Head logo. Always stealth during testing, I'm sure it will get a coat of candy paint when it's ready for a mainstream release. I did initially wonder what all the posts and interest in him were though
 
SinneGOAT

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Head has to do something about the prestige too in my opinion. I get replacing the instinct, but it had(has) a larger audience than the prestige at the moment. It seems they already replaced it with the gravity and radical.
 
bertrevert

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SinneGOAT said:
Head has to do something about the prestige
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heretical thoughts...!:eek:

SinneGOAT said:
I get replacing the instinct, but it had(has) a larger audience than the prestige at the moment. It seems they already replaced it with the gravity and radical.
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You're saying the Head lines are all a bit overlapping and unhelpfully in this case two/three replaces one? Yes there is a lot to choose from atm. Definitely some spec sweetspots their own various lines line-up compete upon with just very small points of difference.
 
J-Wildcard

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The instinct has been a strange one for me. It came in with a very unusual spec I remember when they launched the youtek version. As I recall it seemed a bit cheaper than the radical and prestige. It had the open pattern which straight away gave it the power and a stiffer frame. It was only 300grams but balance was head heavy so it was OK for general baseline hitting for many but a limited racket IMO. It was the racket of Big bird (not Sharapova though she used one too) but the big hitting Tomas Berych
 
bertrevert

bertrevert

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diddyac said:
Tried it for 10 minutes a few months ago, quick first impression was that it was kind of low powered, feel didn't deviate too far from what most of the g360+ is at the moment, and the sweet spot wasn't anything like a Gravity, kind of a standard controlled 98, think it had PTP in it, but yeah didn't find it to be anything special off the bat, probably need to give it some good time to adjust and need your own set up as usual
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Whoa cool, how did it swing, fast, or more HH or a bit hard to tell?

Controlled 98.. so is it in Wilson Blade territory? Or Yonex isometric-ish?

Does the extra bandwidth up top feed into a bit more forgiveness?
 
bertrevert

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bolt-seppi.jpg


los cabos today, can only see the lettering, maybe this too...

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am1899

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J-Wildcard said:
The instinct has been a strange one for me. It came in with a very unusual spec I remember when they launched the youtek version. As I recall it seemed a bit cheaper than the radical and prestige. It had the open pattern which straight away gave it the power and a stiffer frame. It was only 300grams but balance was head heavy so it was OK for general baseline hitting for many but a limited racket IMO. It was the racket of Big bird (not Sharapova though she used one too) but the big hitting Tomas Berych
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Kind of ironic that neither Bird man nor Sharapova actually used an Instinct, but Gasquet has been for years…most of them under Extreme paint. :cool:
 
Raizu

Raizu

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SinneGOAT said:
Head has to do something about the prestige too in my opinion. I get replacing the instinct, but it had(has) a larger audience than the prestige at the moment. It seems they already replaced it with the gravity and radical.
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Sadly I you will be disappointed
 
Raizu

Raizu

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emaz8724 said:
Similar to instinct specs with an isometric head, or are we looking at a 98 sq in gravity? I heard it’s too stiff to be compared to a gravity.
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It’s more along the lines of a classic prestige feel wise and flex. Strung with Hawk Touch at 52 but I think 49 is the perfect tension. As soon as I get my blacked out one I’ll tweak it a bit but it’s great if you like the feel of a prestige MP.

only used it 10 min but my player coming from a clash loved it within 20 min and is switching as soon as I can get her some frames.
 
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jdx2112

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Raizu said:
It’s more along the lines of a classic prestige feel wise and flex. Strung with Hawk Touch at 52 but I think 49 is the perfect tension. As soon as I get my blacked out one I’ll tweak it a bit but it’s great if you like the feel of a prestige MP.

only used it 10 min but my player coming from a clash loved it within 20 min and is switching as soon as I can get her some frames.
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If you would, what is the classic prestige flex in terms of RA? I don’t have that frame of reference.
 
Raizu

Raizu

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jdx2112 said:
If you would, what is the classic prestige flex in terms of RA? I don’t have that frame of reference.
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I believe 64-67. Like I said. Very very similar to a Prestige MP feel. Very responsive. Much easier to slice than an Extreme Tour. Not as soft as a Gravity Pro.
 
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emaz8724

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Raizu said:
It’s more along the lines of a classic prestige feel wise and flex. Strung with Hawk Touch at 52 but I think 49 is the perfect tension. As soon as I get my blacked out one I’ll tweak it a bit but it’s great if you like the feel of a prestige MP.

only used it 10 min but my player coming from a clash loved it within 20 min and is switching as soon as I can get her some frames.
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Wow! I was not expecting that response. I didn’t think it would be prestige like, due to the racquet it’s replacing. So many nice new frames coming out now. So we’re looking at a Yonex frame shape at 98 sq inches with a classic, prestige like feel and a 16x19 string pattern. Sounds like a dream frame. How did the swingweight feel? Close to 330 (hoping) ?
 
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