Andy Roddick [USA] (7) vs Marin Cilic [CRO] (14) QF

[AndyArodRoddick]

Your toughts about this matchup ? I made this thread so early, because i can't wait for it..

Cilic has made 50-60 UEs in every match, whil Andy around 10-20, but how do you guys rate Cilic's chanches in this match ? For sure Andy is a favourite in this match but not by much.

So yeah..your toughts ?

 

[Sartorius]

If Cilic remains calm and executes well, I think he won't be troubled by Roddick's ground game (at least less troubled than against Del Potro), in fact he may easily feed on it. Roddick will have to serve very well.

I think it's on Cilic's racquet.

 

[Fedace]

If Cilic remains calm and executes well, I think he won't be troubled by Roddick's ground game, in fact he may easily feed on it. Roddick will have to serve very well.

I think it's on Cilic's racquet.

LOL,, Cilic can't return andy's serve at all.

 

[Cesc Fabregas]

LOL,, Cilic can't return andy's serve at all.

Gonzo was getting into alot of Roddick's service games and Cilic returns better than Gonzo.

 

[malakas]

If Cilic manage to reach again the heights of perfomance of the Tomic's match it will be a straight set walk in the park.

ajmo Goat!

 

[nabbydian]

If Cilic manage to reach again the heights of perfomance of the Tomic's match it will be a straight set walk in the park.

ajmo Goat!

yeah if Cilic plays like how he plays tomic - 3 sets for him without a doubt :twisted:

 

[clayman2000]

Gonzo was getting into alot of Roddick's service games and Cilic returns better than Gonzo.

Roddick didnt serve very well. I believe he was at 65%.

And in the 3rd and 4th sets Gonzo was teeing off on the Roddick 2nd serve. Cilic cant do that

 

[nabbydian]

Cilic doesnt have that 'murderous' forehand

 

[Sentinel]

Andy has hired Tomic to coach him for the Cilic match...

I hear the consultations and training are going well. Further, Tomic will be sitting in Andy;s box rooting for him.
Cilic doesn't stand a chance.

 

[patty_mnouchkine]

i think cilic has the momentum going for him after today's performance. he's amped up. if he gets that cross court bh working for him, comes forward a lot and gets those big fh he may have a good chance. when did the two meet last and what's their h2h like?

 

[IvanAndreevich]

Cilic doesnt have that 'murderous' forehand

But Cilic doesn't have that crappy backhand. In fact, he has one of the best around. I think right now Cilic is a better player than Gonzo. He was returning exceptionally well against DP.

 

[West Coast Ace]

...Tomic will be sitting in Andy;s box rooting for him.
...

Not if it's a night match - remember Tomic doesn't like 'ridiculous' match scheduling....

But Cilic doesn't have that crappy backhand.

Are you implying Gonzo's BH is 'crappy'? Did you watch the match? He was ripping quite a few DTL winners with it...

Even though my bracket has Roddick making it to the final, I just don't see it - between the knee and the fact that he just doesn't appear to be able to hurt anyone with anything but his serve. Cilic in 4.

 

[bolo]

Will said thatAll the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players: they have their exits and their entrances;

Last night Cilic entranced now it's time to exit. :razz:

 

[nabbydian]

Not if it's a night match - remember Tomic doesn't like 'ridiculous' match scheduling....

Are you implying Gonzo's BH is 'crappy'? Did you watch the match? He was ripping quite a few DTL winners with it...

Even though my bracket has Roddick making it to the final, I just don't see it - between the knee and the fact that he just doesn't appear to be able to hurt anyone with anything but his serve. Cilic in 4.

Gonzo backhand is underrated, he got many backhands winner off Roddick serves and it was no fluke he did it

i suspect Gonzalez game plan is to purposely makes his backhand looks really bad to his opponent

eventually his opponent will keep hitting to his backhand and while running around scared with his forehand - this will open up Gonzo's chances to surprise with a sudden good backhand

i felt Roddick was so worried abt Gonzo's Murderous forehand he stayed too far wide at times to allow Gonzo to hit easy backhand winners

 

[AndyArodRoddick]

Not if it's a night match - remember Tomic doesn't like 'ridiculous' match scheduling....

Are you implying Gonzo's BH is 'crappy'? Did you watch the match? He was ripping quite a few DTL winners with it...

Even though my bracket has Roddick making it to the final, I just don't see it - between the knee and the fact that he just doesn't appear to be able to hurt anyone with anything but his serve. Cilic in 4.

Yeah, well i can't see how cilic will surivive in 4 or 5 sets..andy is one of the fittest guys on the tour while marin isn't + i can see how cilic will hurt himself with his 50+ UEs.

 

[Sentinel]

^^ oh my bad, forgot about that (Tomic).

Maan, there were times when Gonzo was in God mode. But Godzales fell in the end, lost his mind over a line call.

What a display he put up when he was playing well !! Amusing watching Stefanki rooting for Roddick this time.

 

[nabbydian]

^^ oh my bad, forgot about that (Tomic).

Maan, there were times when Gonzo was in God mode. But Godzales fell in the end, lost his mind over a line call.

What a display he put up when he was playing well !! Amusing watching Stefanki rooting for Roddick this time.

yeah man, Gonzo was godly in those 2 sets - that forehand was invincible!

 

[IvanAndreevich]

Not if it's a night match - remember Tomic doesn't like 'ridiculous' match scheduling....

Are you implying Gonzo's BH is 'crappy'? Did you watch the match? He was ripping quite a few DTL winners with it...

Even though my bracket has Roddick making it to the final, I just don't see it - between the knee and the fact that he just doesn't appear to be able to hurt anyone with anything but his serve. Cilic in 4.

Yeah I am absolutely saying that Gonzo has an inconsistent backhand. He can hit winners, but if he plays someone who will rally with his backhand he will be in trouble. I didn't catch yesterday's match, but one match doesn't make a backhand.

Cilic, on the other hand, has one of the best 2 handers around.

 

[Anaconda]

Roddick's BH was better than his FH today. I think Roddick flattened his FH once in the whole match ROFL he needs to do better than that on tuesday.

 

[davey25]

I expect Cilic to win. He basically plays like a better Gonzalez, and Gonzalez really should have beaten Roddick.

 

[clayman2000]

I expect Cilic to win. He basically plays like a better Gonzalez, and Gonzalez really should have beaten Roddick.

Cilic has a major weakness.... low deep shots.

Gonzo kills those type of shots.

Roddick loves that shot

That being said this match is a tossup, with a teeny edge to Roddick for experience

 

[Dimension]

I am going for Roddick in 4 or 5 sets.

 

[davey25]

Cilic has a major weakness.... low deep shots.

Gonzo kills those type of shots.

Roddick loves that shot

That being said this match is a tossup, with a teeny edge to Roddick for experience

Del Potro hits low deep shots, much moreso than Roddick does off the ground, and Cilic handled those fine. Cilic IMO does everything better than Gonzo, slightly better forehand, way better backhand, better returner, much better server, atleast as quick.

 

[bolo]

I am sure stefanki and roddick noticed the tomic match. They will try and get that cilic forehand to self destruct with some junk.

 

[West Coast Ace]

I didn't catch yesterday's match, but one match doesn't make a backhand.

I referenced yesterday's match - but his BH has been good since Stefanki coached him. Having said that, of course that's still the side to go to.

Cilic, on the other hand, has one of the best 2 handers around.

That's a little (lot?) over the top. There are a lot of good 2 handers on tour.

 

[Bud]

What's their current H2H?

**edit**

H2H is 1-1

Andy won a match on grass in straight sets... Cilic on HC in 2 out of 3 sets

 

[malakas]

I am sure stefanki and roddick noticed the tomic match. They will try and get that cilic forehand to self destruct with some junk.

what?!D: Hope not!If Roddick starts playing like...tomic!!:shock: :? for heaven's shake if it gets contagious!

 

[Psyballa]

They're 1-1 against each other. Roddick won their first meeting in 2007 at Queen's Club whereas Cilic exacted revenge a year later at the ATP Masters Series Canada.

 

[shadows]

Cilic

4

 

[clayman2000]

The h2h is almost irrelevant. In 07, Cilic was 18, and in 08 Roddick was playin like absolute garbage

 

[GolfDad]

Roddick in 4.

 

[Dimension]

I am sure stefanki and roddick noticed the tomic match. They will try and get that cilic forehand to self destruct with some junk.

I thought Cilic could have closed out the match in 4 sets yesterday against Delpo, but he made a lot of stupid mistakes and UE. That will cost him when playing against Roddick, who is a well-seasoned veteran with much more experience on big stage.

 

[Baikalic]

I thought Cilic could have closed out the match in 4 sets yesterday against Delpo, but he made a lot of stupid mistakes and UE. That will cost him when playing against Roddick, who is a well-seasoned veteran with much more experience on big stage.

I feel like Cilic's 2HBH really let him on down serve returns, and particularly on break point opportunities which is why del Po was able to last for so long. I wonder if Roddick will pick up on that...

 

[Vyse]

Roddick in 4. Cilic can't return Roddick's serve. Roddick will be fresher, too. Cilic is impressive but this is where it ends for him

 

[bolo]

I thought Cilic could have closed out the match in 4 sets yesterday against Delpo, but he made a lot of stupid mistakes and UE. That will cost him when playing against Roddick, who is a well-seasoned veteran with much more experience on big stage.

Did he play that poorly throughout the 4th set? Cilic had many chances in the 3rd set that he failed to convert on, but he ended up winning that set.

 

[Dimension]

I feel like Cilic's 2HBH really let him on down serve returns, and particularly on break point opportunities which is why del Po was able to last for so long. I wonder if Roddick will pick up on that...

He's got the fantastic coach on his side, he will do anything to help Andy. IMO it's a lot easier to exploit weaknesses in Cilic then in Delpo. Also Roddick doesn't have any mental block against Cilic, it is exactly what he is looking for.

 

[canuckfan]

Roddick in 4. Cilic can't return Roddick's serve. Roddick will be fresher, too. Cilic is impressive but this is where it ends for him

There isn't a significant reason to believe roddick can return cilic's serve better than cilic can return roddick's. Roddick isn't significantly fresher than cilic. Cilic has more firepower off the ground, better at the net, a better mover, and a better returner. Roddick has a big edge in experience and big tournament consistency, but that's all. If Roddick wins it will be because he is a battle tested veteran.

 

[Dimension]

Did he play that poorly throughout the 4th set? Cilic had many chances in the 3rd set that he failed to convert on, but he ended up winning that set.

Cilic played very solid at the beginning of 4th set. But he started choking, DFing, and made many mistakes towards the end of 4th set. I was too sleepy to watch the last set. But the result was expected since Cilic did outplay Delpo.

 

[bolo]

There isn't a significant reason to believe roddick can return cilic's serve better than cilic can return roddick's. Roddick isn't significantly fresher than cilic. Cilic has more firepower off the ground, better at the net, a better mover, and a better returner. Roddick has a big edge in experience and big tournament consistency, but that's all. If Roddick wins it will be because he is a battle tested veteran.

oooooh I am getting excited.

 

[bolo]

Cilic played very solid at the beginning of 4th set. But he started choking, DFing, and made many mistakes towards the end of 4th set. I was too sleepy to watch the last set. But the result was expected since Cilic did outplay Delpo.

yeah IIRC he did drop off towards the end of the 4th. Oddly enough I might try and find a copy of this match.

 

[Dimension]

yeah IIRC he did drop off towards the end of the 4th. Oddly enough I might try and find a copy of this match.

When is the Nadal vs Murray match? Do you know?

 

[bolo]

When is the Nadal vs Murray match? Do you know?

Not sure. Probably tomorrow. It's nice that he got to play on the first day. He will have an extra day if he makes it to the final.

 

[Dimension]

Not sure. Probably tomorrow. It's nice that he got to play on the first day. He will have an extra day if he makes it to the final.

So true. =D

 

[RyanRF]

Andy has hired Tomic to coach him for the Cilic match...

I hear the consultations and training are going well. Further, Tomic will be sitting in Andy;s box rooting for him.
Cilic doesn't stand a chance.

Hah, I lol'd

 

[zagor]

A-Rod in 4.

 

[jamesblakefan#1]

Roddick didnt serve very well. I believe he was at 65%.

And in the 3rd and 4th sets Gonzo was teeing off on the Roddick 2nd serve. Cilic cant do that

65% isn't serving well? What world are you from?

 

[bolo]

So true. =D

It's kind of amazing that he's done with 4 matches already. Most of the time he's barely completed his 2nd match at this point.

 

[clayman2000]

65% isn't serving well? What world are you from?

Im from the planet where Roddick served at 78% in his 1st 3 matches.

Also where Roddick served over 70% for all of 2009

 

[SuperDuy]

Roddick in 5

 

[andyroddick1]

Im from the planet where Roddick served at 78% in his 1st 3 matches.

Also where Roddick served over 70% for all of 2009

he just served at 50% in the 4th set

1st set: 68%
2nd set:78%
3rd set: 78%
4th set: 50%
5th set: 74%

so he should be fine..the 4th set is prlly driving his percentage down