Angell Racquet Imput

[ModernClassicStyle]

I know that it's probably been discussed. However I can't go through 200+ pages of this thread and since I'm planning on purchasing from the future, can someone answer a few of my questions?
How does the TC95 63RA 16m compare to the TC97 18m? I have heard the 95 is just about the same in terms of forgiveness but offers a bit more power and spin. The 97 is more of a control stick and feel especially since i'll be getting it in 18m. I also heard the 95 is like modern dunlop srixon(s) while the 97 sits between the an h22 and pt57a is this true? Lastly how does a tc100 compare to a Pure Aero or Pure Drive? I'll be customizing it each with weight and strings but just in general what do you guys think? thanks.

 

[beltsman]

Only one I can answer is the TC100. It's not similar to the Pure Aero really at all. Much more feel and control. Same with the PD, but it's a closer comparison. It's like a PCG100 on steroids. A true tweener tweener.

 

[Xero]

I know that it's probably been discussed. However I can't go through 200+ pages of this thread and since I'm planning on purchasing from the future, can someone answer a few of my questions?
How does the TC95 63RA 16m compare to the TC97 18m? I have heard the 95 is just about the same in terms of forgiveness but offers a bit more power and spin. The 97 is more of a control stick and feel especially since i'll be getting it in 18m. I also heard the 95 is like modern dunlop srixon(s) while the 97 sits between the an h22 and pt57a is this true? Lastly how does a tc100 compare to a Pure Aero or Pure Drive? I'll be customizing it each with weight and strings but just in general what do you guys think? thanks.

I think i can give you some comparisons...last night i played with TC95 16x19, TC97 18x20, TC 100, Prince textreme 100p(NRG@52p) and FXP prestige mp(main NXT, cross Alu power) side by side for two hours...
here's the spec of my angells (unstrung):
TC95 16x19 310g 9pt HL, 27" , 63RA RPM blast@ 42p (I ordered the lowest swingweight)
TC97 18x20 300g 6pt HL, 27.25" with angell black leather grip hyperG 16 @42p
TC100 300g 6pt HL, 27", 70RA hyperG 16@42p
All are grip A

About your question, Forgiveness about the same between TC95 and TC97, TC95 is a tad more power and TC97 is a tad more control, may be it's because the denser pattern.
for me TC97 plays very similar to my fxp prestige mp which i used for years, the feel, launch angle are very similar but more forgiving...
in the baseline, TC100 definitely the winner, very forgiving, powerful yet controllable, the power level of TC100 is comparable to pure drive with more control.
TC97 is more all-rounded, TC95 i am still getting used to the 16x19 pattern...TC95 is powerful even i strung it with low powered poly (RPM blast)
Finally in my opinion:
Power: TC100 > 100p> TC95 > TC97 > prestige mp
Control: TC97 = prestige mp > 100p > TC95 > TC100
Serve: TC100 >> TC95 > others
Slice backhand: prestige mp > TC97 >TC95 >100p > TC100
Launch angle (from higher to lower): TC100> TC95> TC97=prestige mp=100p

Overall i will stick to my TC97 after trying the TC95 and TC100, the main reasons are the backhand groundstroke and slice backhand, i feel very connected to the ball with the TC97, i can hit better power and angles in backhand side with TC97,
the downside of TC97 is a little underpowered compared to TC95 and TC100, i will try some more powerful strings to see if it can help or not...I am just a 3.5-4.0 recreational player, if you have better mechanism, TC95 has no problems for you, it's
forgiving in it's headsize. Finally , sorry for my English , i am not a native english speaker

 

[Crocodile]

I have a TC 97 16/19 (66RA) which is 330g and 305mm balance. It's a rock solid racquet with a lot of power. I'll be honest and say that I like the box beam shaft profile but not a fan of the "D" beam hoop.
From my perspective I prefer my C10 Pro and QTour + 325 to the Angell because they are softer more comfortable frames. The TC 97 has a firm edge to it. It's a high quality racquet but less cimfortable then the other two. Would be intersting to see how the TC 95 with the 62 RA go.

 

[Jalee]

I know that it's probably been discussed. However I can't go through 200+ pages of this thread and since I'm planning on purchasing from the future, can someone answer a few of my questions?
How does the TC95 63RA 16m compare to the TC97 18m? I have heard the 95 is just about the same in terms of forgiveness but offers a bit more power and spin. The 97 is more of a control stick and feel especially since i'll be getting it in 18m. I also heard the 95 is like modern dunlop srixon(s) while the 97 sits between the an h22 and pt57a is this true? Lastly how does a tc100 compare to a Pure Aero or Pure Drive? I'll be customizing it each with weight and strings but just in general what do you guys think? thanks.

Different launch angle off the face of the racquet, little more spin and break higher gauge strings more in the 16m.
18m = more control, sweet spot is more centered and easier on the arm IMO

 

[nvr2old]

I think i can give you some comparisons...last night i played with TC95 16x19, TC97 18x20, TC 100, Prince textreme 100p(NRG@52p) and FXP prestige mp(main NXT, cross Alu power) side by side for two hours...
here's the spec of my angells (unstrung):
TC95 16x19 310g 9pt HL, 27" , 63RA RPM blast@ 42p (I ordered the lowest swingweight)
TC97 18x20 300g 6pt HL, 27.25" with angell black leather grip hyperG 16 @42p
TC100 300g 6pt HL, 27", 70RA hyperG 16@42p
All are grip A

About your question, Forgiveness about the same between TC95 and TC97, TC95 is a tad more power and TC97 is a tad more control, may be it's because the denser pattern.
for me TC97 plays very similar to my fxp prestige mp which i used for years, the feel, launch angle are very similar but more forgiving...
in the baseline, TC100 definitely the winner, very forgiving, powerful yet controllable, the power level of TC100 is comparable to pure drive with more control.
TC97 is more all-rounded, TC95 i am still getting used to the 16x19 pattern...TC95 is powerful even i strung it with low powered poly (RPM blast)
Finally in my opinion:
Power: TC100 > 100p> TC95 > TC97 > prestige mp
Control: TC97 = prestige mp > 100p > TC95 > TC100
Serve: TC100 >> TC95 > others
Slice backhand: prestige mp > TC97 >TC95 >100p > TC100
Launch angle (from higher to lower): TC100> TC95> TC97=prestige mp=100p

Overall i will stick to my TC97 after trying the TC95 and TC100, the main reasons are the backhand groundstroke and slice backhand, i feel very connected to the ball with the TC97, i can hit better power and angles in backhand side with TC97,
the downside of TC97 is a little underpowered compared to TC95 and TC100, i will try some more powerful strings to see if it can help or not...I am just a 3.5-4.0 recreational player, if you have better mechanism, TC95 has no problems for you, it's
forgiving in it's headsize. Finally , sorry for my English , i am not a native english speaker

great review - and your english is top notch
I have different iterations of the TC95 and 97 (18x20 and 16x19) but do have a TC100. TC 100 is my overall favorite so far although I just got my TC95. I find my TC97 to be a very nice stick but I lose feel on serves with it so it sit at the bottom of my list. TC100 I find to be most forgiving and overall best stick). I also have a Roddick Pure Drive.
my ratings:

Power: PD>TC100>TC95>TC97
Control: TC95>TC97>TC100>PD
Serve: TC100=TC95>PD>TC97
Slice backhand: TC100(my 330g one)>TC95>TC97>PD
Topspin/drive BH: TC100>TC95>PD>TC97
Topspin FH: TC97>TC95>TC100=PD
Flat FH: TC95>TC100>PD>TC97

 

[realplayer]

tc95 16x19 has a much more softer impact than the tc97 18x20. The design of the tc95 is less clunky which I prefer much more. You can compare the difference between a ps95 classic vs a wilson blade.
Even the 18x20 95 has a softer impact than the tc97 18x20. Haven't tried the 16x19 tc97.
The Angells have the highest quality but they are not my favourite rackets. I'm not impressed with the tc97 18x20 and tc100 but appreciate the tc95.

 

[joohan]

I think i can give you some comparisons...last night i played with TC95 16x19, TC97 18x20, TC 100, Prince textreme 100p(NRG@52p) and FXP prestige mp(main NXT, cross Alu power) side by side for two hours...
here's the spec of my angells (unstrung):
TC95 16x19 310g 9pt HL, 27" , 63RA RPM blast@ 42p (I ordered the lowest swingweight)
TC97 18x20 300g 6pt HL, 27.25" with angell black leather grip hyperG 16 @42p
TC100 300g 6pt HL, 27", 70RA hyperG 16@42p
All are grip A

About your question, Forgiveness about the same between TC95 and TC97, TC95 is a tad more power and TC97 is a tad more control, may be it's because the denser pattern.
for me TC97 plays very similar to my fxp prestige mp which i used for years, the feel, launch angle are very similar but more forgiving...
in the baseline, TC100 definitely the winner, very forgiving, powerful yet controllable, the power level of TC100 is comparable to pure drive with more control.
TC97 is more all-rounded, TC95 i am still getting used to the 16x19 pattern...TC95 is powerful even i strung it with low powered poly (RPM blast)
Finally in my opinion:
Power: TC100 > 100p> TC95 > TC97 > prestige mp
Control: TC97 = prestige mp > 100p > TC95 > TC100
Serve: TC100 >> TC95 > others
Slice backhand: prestige mp > TC97 >TC95 >100p > TC100
Launch angle (from higher to lower): TC100> TC95> TC97=prestige mp=100p

Overall i will stick to my TC97 after trying the TC95 and TC100, the main reasons are the backhand groundstroke and slice backhand, i feel very connected to the ball with the TC97, i can hit better power and angles in backhand side with TC97,
the downside of TC97 is a little underpowered compared to TC95 and TC100, i will try some more powerful strings to see if it can help or not...I am just a 3.5-4.0 recreational player, if you have better mechanism, TC95 has no problems for you, it's
forgiving in it's headsize. Finally , sorry for my English , i am not a native english speaker

Excellent sum-up.

 

[topspn]

Good god no, the TC95 doesn’t have much of a resemblance to the dunlop srixon CX2.0 I tried. TC95 far more solid and versatile and brutalizes the ball. Essentially, the TC100 and TC95 63RA are the same lineage in different head sizes and slight beam width. If the TC95 brutalizes the ball then TC100 is Thor’s hammer. And it is pretty much on every shot including serves. IMHO they are not tweeners in the tradition of Babolat or Head. They have a uniform flex and dampened feel that pockets beautifully. TC97 only tried 16x19 doesn’t have the same level of power but has a more plush feel to it and a bit more head flex. The H22 comparison does come up from those familiar with both. I suspect the 18x20 would be control oriented and a lower launch angle for sure. A lot of people get very worried about higher SW with the Angells but don’t be afraid if you can get the right balance for you. They truly play better with the higher SW.

 

[anfield]

I just got back from my first hit with a TC95 70RA 16x19 330g, I put 6g of lead in hoop to get it to match my RF 97, both at 352g, both have a poly main, syngut cross. It was a bit chilly out there, 45F but just hitting against a wall, drop feeds and serves, the TC felt like a toned down Pure Drive, but with no cortex.

I think once you get used to the RF, and can rip it, there's not much out there to compare. I did appreciate the even flex of the TC, it did feel quite nimble too, but there was no intoxicating "twack." I think the PWS and rubberized black paint on the RF make it feel more stable and comfy.

I recently demoed the new Yonex 330 Vcore Pro and really liked it, very comfy and great feel, but the upper hoop flexes a bit too much. It would be a world-beater as a 93. As I'm typing this, I'm watching the Tiafoe match, who has the 310 version. He attempts a half volley from the baseline and it goes long. The commentator says something like: "I feel like a lot of people try that shot because of Federer and think it's easy."

That's what got me to commit to the RF, those kinds of shots are a breeze, I've pulled off some pickup miracles from both wings.

I'm doing my advanced clinic tomorrow and I'll give the TC 95 a proper test. I guess that's why I'm seeing like the 63RA 18x20 is more popular, because there's more mass in the hoop. Until then...

 

[Backhanded Compliment]

I just got back from my first hit with a TC95 70RA 16x19 330g, I put 6g of lead in hoop to get it to match my RF 97, both at 352g, both have a poly main, syngut cross. It was a bit chilly out there, 45F but just hitting against a wall, drop feeds and serves, the TC felt like a toned down Pure Drive, but with no cortex.

I think once you get used to the RF, and can rip it, there's not much out there to compare. I did appreciate the even flex of the TC, it did feel quite nimble too, but there was no intoxicating "twack." I think the PWS and rubberized black paint on the RF make it feel more stable and comfy.

I recently demoed the new Yonex 330 Vcore Pro and really liked it, very comfy and great feel, but the upper hoop flexes a bit too much. It would be a world-beater as a 93. As I'm typing this, I'm watching the Tiafoe match, who has the 310 version. He attempts a half volley from the baseline and it goes long. The commentator says something like: "I feel like a lot of people try that shot because of Federer and think it's easy."

That's what got me to commit to the RF, those kinds of shots are a breeze, I've pulled off some pickup miracles from both wings.

I'm doing my advanced clinic tomorrow and I'll give the TC 95 a proper test. I guess that's why I'm seeing like the 63RA 18x20 is more popular, because there's more mass in the hoop. Until then...

I would avoid matching it to the RF, as they are inherently different. Id put just a little lead at 3 and 9 and start from there. TC 95 is inherently more whippy and dynamic... the amount of topspin you use matters with it too. it is a spinny stick. Try the TC95 with less static weight than the RF

my specs are heavier but I really think its best to work yourself into what is comfy when you start wth a new stck... duplicating specs from very different sticks will often lead to going to the orignial stick because of what you are used to. Using a lighter weight means you have room to adjust your stokes a little bit more.

 

[anfield]

I would avoid matching it to the RF, as they are inherently different. Id put just a little lead at 3 and 9 and start from there. TC 95 is inherently more whippy and dynamic... the amount of topspin you use matters with it too. it is a spinny stick. Try the TC95 with less static weight than the RF

my specs are heavier but I really think its best to work yourself into what is comfy when you start wth a new stck... duplicating specs from very different sticks will often lead to going to the orignial stick because of what you are used to. Using a lighter weight means you have room to adjust your stokes a little bit more.

Well, it is the 330g, 12pt HL version, so I had to put lead in the hoop just to get the balance somewhat normal, feels really maneuverable at 354g. My game tonight was all over the place with my newly strung RF. I put poly in the mains, instead of gut and it made me swing harder to get a response, hit some screamers, but a lot of net and long, and short game was way off. The RF, for me needs gut, or syngut in mains to give a more linear response.

A bit frustrated took out the TC95 and hit with instructor after and I was dialed in. No shot felt great, but we were sharing the court and I kept the rally going with ease, baseline to baseline. I wish I had pulled it out earlier in the live ball drills, curious how it would perform at net.

As I said, I hit great, but it did not feel great, I'm sure strings can change that, but I'm more curious about the 63RA. With a bit more mass in the hoop and even flex we could have a winner. I'm curious, of those who have this frame, what did you play with before?

 

[Backhanded Compliment]

Well, it is the 330g, 12pt HL version, so I had to put lead in the hoop just to get the balance somewhat normal, feels really maneuverable at 354g. My game tonight was all over the place with my newly strung RF. I put poly in the mains, instead of gut and it made me swing harder to get a response, hit some screamers, but a lot of net and long, and short game was way off. The RF, for me needs gut, or syngut in mains to give a more linear response.

A bit frustrated took out the TC95 and hit with instructor after and I was dialed in. No shot felt great, but we were sharing the court and I kept the rally going with ease, baseline to baseline. I wish I had pulled it out earlier in the live ball drills, curious how it would perform at net.

As I said, I hit great, but it did not feel great, I'm sure strings can change that, but I'm more curious about the 63RA. With a bit more mass in the hoop and even flex we could have a winner. I'm curious, of those who have this frame, what did you play with before?

I was using the Pacific x feel pro 95 and before that the Head Prestige MP. I came to the TC95 after looking for something with prostaff 85 qualities in a a modern Mid Plus. That said I always found prostaff 85's to be a tad too stiff and I like things that are sub 60 ra... the 63 ra for me plays like an RA 58 Dunlop whe its strung up.

 

[anfield]

I was using the Pacific x feel pro 95 and before that the Head Prestige MP. I came to the TC95 after looking for something with prostaff 85 qualities in a a modern Mid Plus. That said I always found prostaff 85's to be a tad too stiff and I like things that are sub 60 ra... the 63 ra for me plays like an RA 58 Dunlop whe its strung up.

Hmm, I found the Head to be a bit weak, but I did not put any lead at the time. I'm going to demo it again, and the TT95, but coming from the RF97, I'm going to give the 6.1 a try. It will feel similar in the hand, but a bit more flex and maybe 18x20 is the way to go to get the more consistent output.

After six months with the RF, I've dialed my game in enough that my goal is consistency, not just fizzing winners. It kind of has this level of power you have to hit to get that awesome response. At least with poly in the mains, you really have to hit out, which has mixed results. With gut in mains you can go more 3/4.

What string set up are you using, 18x20, gut, poly? Cheers.

 

[Backhanded Compliment]

Hmm, I found the Head to be a bit weak, but I did not put any lead at the time. I'm going to demo it again, and the TT95, but coming from the RF97, I'm going to give the 6.1 a try. It will feel similar in the hand, but a bit more flex and maybe 18x20 is the way to go to get the more consistent output.

After six months with the RF, I've dialed my game in enough that my goal is consistency, not just fizzing winners. It kind of has this level of power you have to hit to get that awesome response. At least with poly in the mains, you really have to hit out, which has mixed results. With gut in mains you can go more 3/4.

What string set up are you using, 18x20, gut, poly? Cheers.

Well no mid plus is lower powered and controlled than the Pacific x feel pro 95, you really have to hit out with it. My IGPMP head was strung with gut poly and like 13oz. I loved the power combo on it but I actually wanted less... and so something more plush. The pacific was my transition to 16x19 which is what I use now in the TC95. TC95 is a power beast by comparison to both the pacific and the prestige. I describe it as having greater amplitude: https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...95-16x19-flexy-shakedown.553138/#post-9954079

Overall, Im not getting any younger and the TC95 lets me play a more relaxed game... it helps me win ralleys even hitting at 75% power. I play people with RF's all the time (one of the few sticks out there heavy enough to not be pushed around but I always seem to still control the ralleys, likely because I dont have an obvious weak side to target).

I use full poly in the tc95 RSlyon at 45lbs. Tc95 seems to thrive on full poly at lower tensions but that takes some adjustments... do you hit with a lot of topspin?

 

[anfield]

do you hit with a lot of topspin?

Uh, not a ton, semi-western, can really hit some nice angles, rollers, but have found FH down the line a challenge with the RF. Why I actually chose the stick was I had a weak two hander and then on the demo, started hitting OHBH and crushing it, but my FH wanned. Now I've got my FH back, but it's not described as a "weapon," like it used to be. But I'm overall better on both wings.

I've not been a fan of poly because I feel I have to give it that extra flick when doing touch/defensive shots. With the RF and gut mains I found a new dimension to my game, I hit some of the most outrageous, pick ups from the baseline, block returns, half volleys, running BH slice and reaction volleys. It's actually made me more aggressive because I feel like a can Kamakaze coming into the net.

Does the TC95 respond with poly on these shots or are you putting in that extra little oomf? How is it at blocking shots at the 63RA? Does the even flex give the hoop stability at the lower velocity shots? Or do you have more time with it so you can hit a fuller shot? Oh, and thanks for your input.

 

[Backhanded Compliment]

Uh, not a ton, semi-western, can really hit some nice angles, rollers, but have found FH down the line a challenge with the RF. Why I actually chose the stick was I had a weak two hander and then on the demo, started hitting OHBH and crushing it, but my FH wanned. Now I've got my FH back, but it's not described as a "weapon," like it used to be. But I'm overall better on both wings.

I've not been a fan of poly because I feel I have to give it that extra flick when doing touch/defensive shots. With the RF and gut mains I found a new dimension to my game, I hit some of the most outrageous, pick ups from the baseline, block returns, half volleys, running BH slice and reaction volleys. It's actually made me more aggressive because I feel like a can Kamakaze coming into the net.

Does the TC95 respond with poly on these shots or are you putting in that extra little oomf? How is it at blocking shots at the 63RA? Does the even flex give the hoop stability at the lower velocity shots? Or do you have more time with it so you can hit a fuller shot? Oh, and thanks for your input.

Thats kinda the magic of the tc95 it hits flat and spin equally well. I Think I see what you are getting at... you like the mass of the RF for absorbing and redirecting shots. My Head IG prestige mp at 13oz was the king of that for me with the TC95 a close second... thing is it took more getting used to with the TC95. Id say the TC95 improved the weapon aspect of my FH... I have that Sampras style hammer flat forehand DTL or I can spin it to a larger degree as well... I patterned my forehand after Soderling's when I decided to switch from an eastern FH to a Semi Western. TC95 does a lot of damage on deep rally balls with its explosive spin and heavy ball but I almost never just "flick" it to spin it. I have pretty full strokes with the backhand being the longer of the two.

I guess the thing with the TC95 is its power has to be unlocked with kinetic chain... it isnt just free power like a pure drive. Overall a racquet shouldnt be used so much to beef up a weaker stroke (that's practice and coaching... mostly form/kinetic chain stuff) what you do is use a stick that emphasizes strengths... I switch between heavy topspin to flatter strokes all of the time so tc95 really fits my playing style (Im a power/finesse variety player).

You might just want to groove on the RF to be honest... though with a heavy heavy stick a lot of players rely too much on the mass for blocking shots (I see that as a potential red flag). Me Im a big returner and a big tall guy, I like to dictate and am a true all courter.

The even flex and stable hoop of the tc95 is great for lower velocity shots but it does take a lot of getting used to... its kinda like a true sportscar with a lot of power and cornering ability... you have to learn its quirks to really pull off some shots.

 

[anfield]

Yeah, I just got back from hitting am totally back on my RF train. What threw me off was poly in the mains the other day. Today was a revelation because I was hitting with a really strong player, 6'3" former collegiate and we were trading bombs, I was murdering the OHBH, crosscourt, inside out, pickups, slice. There is no other stick that makes me so confident on that wing and just to attack in general. Plus it really got me working on my technique, to serve well with it you have to open up your shoulders and create the whip. No arming the ball.

What was reassuring is he had a 6.1 and that felt great, but with the 18x20 it felt a bit anemic when trying to pull off kamikaze pick ups, swinging volleys etc. Even more so with his Prestige. I'm just going to stick with what I have and focus on fitness. Going to give these boards a break and trust my gut, strings ;-)

 

[joohan]

As I said, I hit great, but it did not feel great,

I’m not sure this is completely fixable with strings if you don’t like the feel from the off. You can get used to it for sure but...I’ve been playing 63RA TC100 exclusively for the past 8 months and it feels nice with RS Lyon but it’s far from my favorite feeling frame. It’s a perfect tool for winning matches and playing solid, all court tennis and, at least in my experience, so is TC95. Feel issue is a trade off I’m willing to accept because overall performance is top notch.

 

[4-string]

I’m not sure this is completely fixable with strings if you don’t like the feel from the off. You can get used to it for sure but...I’ve been playing 63RA TC100 exclusively for the past 8 months and it feels nice with RS Lyon but it’s far from my favorite feeling frame. It’s a perfect tool for winning matches and playing solid, all court tennis and, at least in my experience, so is TC95. Feel issue is a trade off I’m willing to accept because overall performance is top notch.

Second this - I had a TC95 63ra/16x19, and much like a Babolat the results were undeniable. [emoji6]Crazy power, serves had amazing action on them, very stable, all in all an amazing frame.

But I just really disliked the feel, and keep coming back to my RF97.

I could possibly see another Angell in my future though, being a racquetaholic and all- the results were really something. [emoji1303]

 

[anfield]

I’m not sure this is completely fixable with string

I meant, I had poly/gut in my RF and I was sporadic, but after that Friday clinic, hit with the 95 70RA and it had Ultra cable in mains and felt like a Pure Drive. This was the first time in my life I've felt pain in my upper forearm and in elbow. Sometimes with the RF with gut/poly my hand may feel a little achy, but never pain in my arm?

That went away by Sunday, so went to hit, only with RF with gut/poly and upper forearm and elbow hurt after. It it possible to have jacked up my arm after two hours of hitting with poly/gut?

I am curious to try the 95 63RA, does it play anything like a prestige? Oh and YNWA ;-)

 

[anfield]

and keep coming back to my RF97

There is something can't be replicated in any stick I have tried. There is amazing feedback when you hit the RF pure, it does not feel that stiff, you get a bit of this old school solidity and a very arousing "thwack." I tried the PS97 and it's not the same stick at all, did you find the upper hoop flexed too much?

 

[4-string]

There is something can't be replicated in any stick I have tried. There is amazing feedback when you hit the RF pure, it does not feel that stiff, you get a bit of this old school solidity and a very arousing "thwack." I tried the PS97 and it's not the same stick at all, did you find the upper hoop flexed too much?

No, not at all. The flex is very uniform, and the feel is quite firm. It was a lack of, or unfamiliar type of, feedback that ruined it for me.

All subjective and personal, I much prefer my pro staffs. Also, I just got a Volkl PB10 Mid and that stick has the feel I like (and was hoping to find in the TC95). Much lower powered than the Angell, but still kicks serious butt. [emoji1303][emoji6]

 

[joohan]

I meant, I had poly/gut in my RF and I was sporadic, but after that Friday clinic, hit with the 95 70RA and it had Ultra cable in mains and felt like a Pure Drive. This was the first time in my life I've felt pain in my upper forearm and in elbow. Sometimes with the RF with gut/poly my hand may feel a little achy, but never pain in my arm?

That went away by Sunday, so went to hit, only with RF with gut/poly and upper forearm and elbow hurt after. It it possible to have jacked up my arm after two hours of hitting with poly/gut?

I am curious to try the 95 63RA, does it play anything like a prestige? Oh and YNWA ;-)

I felt sore arm(triceps area) with 63RA 18x20 TC95 strung with soft poly (Silverstring) and had a sore wrist from 63RA TC100 when playing with soft balls at very low speeds. There's something about that "D" beam structure of TC95 and TC100...some long-ish wavelength interference or something but that's just my personal opinion (not winning many friends at the Angell thread).

95 does not play like a Prestige to me, personally. More in line of Pro Staffs in terms of performance. Feel is completely unique, although Volkl PB10 comes close bar pronounced flex and instability. TC97 18x20, on the other hand, very much plays and feels like a part of Prestige line. I played it side to side with iPrestige mid and it's like comparing two siblings. Not twins,siblings yes.

...

I hope you send City packing from UCL and I hope Mo Salah commits long term (even though I'm primarily Real Madrid fan and would obviously love to have him playing in all white...

 

[anfield]

No, not at all. The flex is very uniform, and the feel is quite firm. It was a lack of, or unfamiliar type of, feedback that ruined it for me.

All subjective and personal, I much prefer my pro staffs. Also, I just got a Volkl PB10 Mid and that stick has the feel I like (and was hoping to find in the TC95). Much lower powered than the Angell, but still kicks serious butt. [emoji1303][emoji6]

With a leaded up TC95 70 RA I could not block back shots the way I can with the RF. I guess all that clunky mass has a function. If a PS97 was leaded up, would it give me that almost superhuman ability to block back big shots like with the RF?

 

[anfield]

There's something about that "D" beam structure of TC95

I hear ya, that D beam, in the 70RA had me feeling like I was hitting a toned down PD, but without cortex, very pingy, hollow, artificial feeling. The 63 layup is supposed to have more mass, but from what you are saying it will just make a little better than the 70. Not sure I'd like the TC97, don't like the Prestige and uneven flex. There is something about all that mass in the hoop of the PS/RF that I like, some say it's clunky, I say it lets me block back shots and volley with ease.


The good thing about our CL draw is we don't have to travel, oh and we are the only team to beat them. It would make my decade if we beat them, Barca in semi (LFC supporters have begun to loathe them) and face Los Blancos in the final. Salah has been a revelation, so much joy, he grew up supporting you guys and idolizing CR7, but he also grew up supporting us. We would be fine it he wants to go in a couple years, but the goal is to raise the club so that people want to stay away from Spain. But not sure that can happen with a South American player.

 

[topspn]

You guys are over the top but I’ll forgive you since you’re Salah fans ⚽️

 

[Backhanded Compliment]

I dont get any pingy feeling from my TC95 16x19 ra 63's... I block back shots all the time and generally dictate... even when facing RF97 players. D beam really reminds me of the Max 200g in that it has consistent flex and low distortion of hoop.

I also use the most minimal rubber band I can find a #33

no idea what you guys are talking about with "pingy" and I love the sound min makes when I crush a ball. Mind you my static weight is 360g and nothing about the stick is something id describe as being "stiff" or pure druve life besides its serving power (far more pinpoint too)

 

[4-string]

I too don’t get what you guys mean by pingy. The solid thud sound on contact was one thing I really loved about the TC95.

 

[anfield]

I too don’t get what you guys mean by pingy. The solid thud sound on contact was one thing I really loved about the TC95.

This is with the 70RA TC95, really reminded me of a Pure Drive. You are saying the 63RA is more like a PS, which is good. Supposedly there is more material in the layup so the hoop is more solid, correct?

 

[Backhanded Compliment]

This is with the 70RA TC95, really reminded me of a Pure Drive. You are saying the 63RA is more like a PS, which is good. Supposedly there is more material in the layup so the hoop is more solid, correct?

yeah the 63ra has more mass in the throat and has an inherently higher swingweight... its a bit like a cross between the ps85 and the Max200g with far far more spin thats very modern. That said it has a very unique response. It isnt for everyone but the TC100 ra63 is an amazing all round frame and its similar.

 

[joohan]

I hear ya, that D beam, in the 70RA had me feeling like I was hitting a toned down PD, but without cortex, very pingy, hollow, artificial feeling. The 63 layup is supposed to have more mass, but from what you are saying it will just make a little better than the 70. Not sure I'd like the TC97, don't like the Prestige and uneven flex. There is something about all that mass in the hoop of the PS/RF that I like, some say it's clunky, I say it lets me block back shots and volley with ease.


The good thing about our CL draw is we don't have to travel, oh and we are the only team to beat them. It would make my decade if we beat them, Barca in semi (LFC supporters have begun to loathe them) and face Los Blancos in the final. Salah has been a revelation, so much joy, he grew up supporting you guys and idolizing CR7, but he also grew up supporting us. We would be fine it he wants to go in a couple years, but the goal is to raise the club so that people want to stay away from Spain. But not sure that can happen with a South American player.

I’ve only played with TC90 as far as 70RA Angells go and it was fine so I can’t really comment. If you’re up to try another Angell, 16x19 63RA TC95 is the one to go for. The flex is truly uniform and the feel is quite alright, too - except those low frequency vibration I felt at times. I’ve only played with 18x20 version but since I’ve been playing with 16x19 63RA TC100 for quite some time now, I can merge those two and imagine what 16x19 63RA TC95 could do. I’m just too dialed in with the 100 to be bothered to buy and try.

TC97 18x20 has entirely different feel wit pronounced flex, unlike Pro Staffs, but I like it. I’ve built my game with Dunlop Biomimetic 300Tour that feels similar.

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Yes, I know you’re the only one to beat City this season...in PL anyway (Basel beat them in the second leg of last UCL round at Etihad). If Salah, Mane, Firmino are on fire it’s possible even over two legs but defense and goalkeeper might play key role here. Both Mignolet and Karius are able to play perfect matches but spectacular failures are never really too far away. UCL will only get tougher - only heavyweights will remain in the next rounds but “Miracle of Istanbul” is strong legacy to fall back on. I hope LFC keeps their best players (and Klopp, too) to make Premier League and UCL interesting but Real Madrid are planning major makeover this summer and the allure is strong (mainly for non-British players).

 

[anfield]

If you’re up to try another Angell, 63RA TC95 is the one to go for.

I'm going to string the 70RA with gut/poly or syn/poly. Maybe it's the WC Ultra Cable mains it came with that are making it feel like a PD. I hate poly mains in my RF, but it still has more of an organic feel than the TC95. But I was impressed by how consistent I was with it, and it's more manuevable. I guess I'll restring it before bailing on it.

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Of course we are the only team to beat them, Basel in group stage does not count. Wigan did a job, but it was silly FA cup. And we didn't just best them, we thrashed them, even with the flattering 4-3 scoreline, but now with VVD, Robertson and Karius playing well, our backline is more solid. They have a horrible record at Anfield, it's the 12th man. They had to hook Sterling off because he could not function with everyone yelling at him. They don't even fill their stadium, they have no heritage when it comes to "European nights under the lights," they even booed the CL theme. Klopp is there for the long haul, well, seven years. People want to go play for him. VVD picked him over Pep, with a guaranteed title and more money. Ox turned down 220k a week from Chelski to make 120 playing for Klopp. These are exciting times.

 

[Imago]

I tried the PS97 and it's not the same stick at all, did you find the upper hoop flexed too much?

TC97 18M does it too, while TC95 18M seems to flex more in the throat. But this can be changed by experimenting with some tungsten around the clock.

 

[anfield]

TC97 18x20, on the other hand, very much plays and feels like a part of Prestige line.

I got the 63RA 95 today and it's not that much different than the 70 in feel, or more like, lack thereof. A K7 came today too, super easy, very solid and comfy at the same weight as the 95. Only issue is how it launches very high, the string pattern is so open it' looks like a waffle. Will have to do some tuning.

But to my surprise, I could not put down the Vcore 330 Pro. It says it's a 65RA but it's more flexy than the TC95 63 RA -- and tons more feel. It's been a revelation, I forgot what thin-beam graphite with some hoop flex can do. It's ridiculously fast at 355g, and I can shape the ball in any way with that dwell time. I should try the TC97, but I'm not sure how it can improve on the new 330.

 

[joohan]

I got the 63RA 95 today and it's not that much different than the 70 in feel, or more like, lack thereof. A K7 came today too, super easy, very solid and comfy at the same weight as the 95. Only issue is how it launches very high, the string pattern is so open it' looks like a waffle. Will have to do some tuning.

But to my surprise, I could not put down the Vcore 330 Pro. It says it's a 65RA but it's more flexy than the TC95 63 RA -- and tons more feel. It's been a revelation, I forgot what thin-beam graphite with some hoop flex can do. It's ridiculously fast at 355g, and I can shape the ball in any way with that dwell time. I should try the TC97, but I'm not sure how it can improve on the new 330.

Is comfort of the 63RA similar to 70RA version, too?

Whatever works (and feels acceptable, I guess). I like Vcore Tour G 330. Special frame with special feel but since I don’t play with anything else than TC100 anymore, I’ve listed it for sale along with other frames. Keeping some mids for fun but everything else can go, even TC97. I used to play with tight patterns but it’s hard to go back after a year with the 100.

That being said, I’d like to try RF97 to see for myself what the fuss is about.

 

[nvr2old]

Is comfort of the 63RA similar to 70RA version, too?

Whatever works (and feels acceptable, I guess). I like Vcore Tour G 330. Special frame with special feel but since I don’t play with anything else than TC100 anymore, I’ve listed it for sale along with other frames. Keeping some mids for fun but everything else can go, even TC97. I used to play with tight patterns but it’s hard to go back after a year with the 100.

That being said, I’d like to try RF97 to see for myself what the fuss is about.

You should try the RF. I’m thinning out racquets now but the Angells and RF’s are staying. Similarly solid buttery feel. The RF is why I haven’t sprung for a K7.

 

[anfield]

Is comfort of the 63RA similar to 70RA version, too?

I did not find the 63RA TC 95 comfy at all, even with gut/poly. There is something about this frame that feels unnatural to me. The RF has a more organic feel.

RF’s are staying. Similarly solid buttery feel.

While I have enjoyed the RF for the last six months and hit shots I've never conceived before, buttery is never a word I've mentioned in the same breath as the RF97a black. With its weight (358g,) 69 RA, and beefy hoop it's a sledgehammer, even with my gut/poly and the velvet paint, which does help mute, it's a total different experience. It does give you some superhuman powers. My OHBH has never been better, a week ago I was able to pick my spot on the court and nail it, my favorite was an inside out that landed within the service line.

Other shots the RF can pull off with amazement are pick ups from the baseline, half volleys, swinging volleys, reaction volleys and running slice backhands. The mass in the hoop and stiffness aid in these shots. There is also this intoxicating feeling when you tee off on a shot, there is a thundercrack that is somewhat sexual in feeling . Alas, I mainly got this love on the OHBH while my forehand and serve only got it sparingly. Thus I had to go for larger targets with these shots.

In comes in the new Vcore 330, serves are twice as consistent, twice as accurate, twice as much spin. It's a bullwhip compared to the sledgehammer properties of the RF. With the forehand, the 330 is so accurate and allows me to feel like a magician. I'm going to end points so much easier on this wing, any short ball I feel like I can put away, it's not so much the power, it's the placement. In just hitting with it for two days I noticed I hardly missed a forehand and each one had the same path. I framed a fair amount of FH with the RF and resorted to a lot of 3/4 shots. At the exact same weight and balance as the 330, the RF feels twice as slow. I was shocked at how fast I could get the 330 around on late shots and get a full cut.

The K7 was amazing in its own way, but I only hit with it for a little while because I could not put down the 330. The K7 almost feels like cheating though, so comfy, powerful and has that block back ability of the RF, at a lot less weight. But it just launches the ball, at an angle that reminds of a Pure Aero. But if I can tame that, it could be a great match day stick against a huge hitter.

I'll be putting my four RFs, one new, up in the classifieds soon.

 

[Prince Vegeta]

I would avoid matching it to the RF, as they are inherently different. Id put just a little lead at 3 and 9 and start from there. TC 95 is inherently more whippy and dynamic... the amount of topspin you use matters with it too. it is a spinny stick. Try the TC95 with less static weight than the RF

my specs are heavier but I really think its best to work yourself into what is comfy when you start wth a new stck... duplicating specs from very different sticks will often lead to going to the orignial stick because of what you are used to. Using a lighter weight means you have room to adjust your stokes a little bit more.

If I may add my own thoughts, on my tc 95 I added 5 grams of lead, in the form of two ten inch strips on both sides of he hoop, at 12 and love it. It completely changed the racket for the better. Not that 3&9 is wrong, i just prefer it at 12 I’m longer strips.

 

[Backhanded Compliment]

If I may add my own thoughts, on my tc 95 I added 5 grams of lead, in the form of two ten inch strips on both sides of he hoop, at 12 and love it. It completely changed the racket for the better. Not that 3&9 is wrong, i just prefer it at 12 I’m longer strips.

I have a tiny amount at 12 too and I agree whatever works for you ...my mechanics are probably quite different than most people's considering I have a somewhat exotic backhand.

tc95 is a beast of a stick. and it excels at the power finesse game that I play... imma ball striker and I fetish a solid impact that really bosses the ball around... I probably find The sweet spot a great deal of the time. Let's just put it this way I never win ugly when I'm playing and winning. I am idealistic player, and the stick has the feel precision and power to play some very exciting, quality tennis.

 

[nvr2old]

I did not find the 63RA TC 95 comfy at all, even with gut/poly. There is something about this frame that feels unnatural to me. The RF has a more organic feel.


While I have enjoyed the RF for the last six months and hit shots I've never conceived before, buttery is never a word I've mentioned in the same breath as the RF97a black. With its weight (358g,) 69 RA, and beefy hoop it's a sledgehammer, even with my gut/poly and the velvet paint, which does help mute, it's a total different experience. It does give you some superhuman powers. My OHBH has never been better, a week ago I was able to pick my spot on the court and nail it, my favorite was an inside out that landed within the service line.

Other shots the RF can pull off with amazement are pick ups from the baseline, half volleys, swinging volleys, reaction volleys and running slice backhands. The mass in the hoop and stiffness aid in these shots. There is also this intoxicating feeling when you tee off on a shot, there is a thundercrack that is somewhat sexual in feeling . Alas, I mainly got this love on the OHBH while my forehand and serve only got it sparingly. Thus I had to go for larger targets with these shots.

In comes in the new Vcore 330, serves are twice as consistent, twice as accurate, twice as much spin. It's a bullwhip compared to the sledgehammer properties of the RF. With the forehand, the 330 is so accurate and allows me to feel like a magician. I'm going to end points so much easier on this wing, any short ball I feel like I can put away, it's not so much the power, it's the placement. In just hitting with it for two days I noticed I hardly missed a forehand and each one had the same path. I framed a fair amount of FH with the RF and resorted to a lot of 3/4 shots. At the exact same weight and balance as the 330, the RF feels twice as slow. I was shocked at how fast I could get the 330 around on late shots and get a full cut.

The K7 was amazing in its own way, but I only hit with it for a little while because I could not put down the 330. The K7 almost feels like cheating though, so comfy, powerful and has that block back ability of the RF, at a lot less weight. But it just launches the ball, at an angle that reminds of a Pure Aero. But if I can tame that, it could be a great match day stick against a huge hitter.

I'll be putting my four RFs, one new, up in the classifieds soon.

Great you found the vcore 330 to be your fav. I hit it at IW practice court and really thought it was about the same as my vcore tour f 97 for me. Excellent stick I agree not as excellent as the RF for me. I’ll check out your add when it comes up.

 

[Prince Vegeta]

I have a tiny amount at 12 too and I agree whatever works for you ...my mechanics are probably quite different than most people's considering I have a somewhat exotic backhand.

tc95 is a beast of a stick. and it excels at the power finesse game that I play... imma ball striker and I fetish a solid impact that really bosses the ball around... I probably find The sweet spot a great deal of the time. Let's just put it this way I never win ugly when I'm playing and winning. I am idealistic player, and the stick has the feel precision and power to play some very exciting, quality tennis.

It does have all those attributes. I’m more of a baseline player that attacks the first ball I get and I like the 95 for this too, although I’ll probably give the 100 70RA a go for the heck of trying something different.

 

[Backhanded Compliment]

It does have all those attributes. I’m more of a baseline player that attacks the first ball I get and I like the 95 for this too, although I’ll probably give the 100 70RA a go for the heck of trying something different.

Yeah... Im also a big returner. I think thats where the 95 really beats the 100 is is super easy to play with. I could switch between the 95 and 100 without any issues and I tend to attack the net a fair amount.

If I taught Id use the 100 for that for sure. My main hitting partner was a teaching pro in SF when he was younger and he talks about how the tc100 helps him because he plays with family which is more social and we push each other competatively. His kid will play highschool tennis next year ...yeash! I remember when he would be our ball boy.