Exactly.I don't root against a player, unless they are directly playing my guy.
Nope. I want him to play the harder opponents and beat them because I get to watch better tennis. The only time I root for someone to lose is indirectly, when I'm rooting for my favorite to win the match - it's just me wanting my favorite to beat the guy across the net.Exactly.
So if you're invested in it, you're pulling for L's.
And in other matches that indirectly impact "your guy" (e.g., a tournament draw), you'd be rooting against certain players.
Don't you do the informal tennis match betting thing on here? Presumably you're trying not to lose that.Nope. I want him to play the harder opponents and beat them because I get to watch better tennis. The only time I root for someone to lose is indirectly, when I'm rooting for my favorite to win the match - it's just me wanting my favorite to beat the guy across the net.
Around 2007 Canada, before that he wasn't really on my radar and I was too young to know much else beyond Federer and Nadal. And yes, I match bet. It'd be nice not to lose, but it's just a game in the end. Plus, I bet on who's going to win a match, not who's losing it. Either way, I wouldn't say that's the same thing.Don't you do the informal tennis match betting thing on here? Presumably you're trying not to lose that.
But also, at what point did Djokovic become "your guy"?
Was your fandom always as idealized as you claim?
Every form of sports betting is premised on uberfans. If they were content with mere victories for their favorite/favorites, they wouldn't feel compelled to up the ante in that way.And yes, I match bet. It'd be nice not to lose, but it's just a game in the end.
No.If I understand what you're asking here, it's "Doesn't everyone who roots for Player 1 wish that Players 2-64 lose, so that Player 1 can play against weaker competition?"
Don't presume to understand me. I just like playing games against other people. I'm willing to pseudo-bet on MLB games too, but I don't watch those or look at their stats either. Games are fun.Every form of sports betting is premised on uberfans. If they were content with mere victories for their favorite/favorites, they wouldn't feel compelled to up the ante in that way.
Even for that, my answer is no. I only root against a player when they're directly playing my favorite, because I want my favorite to win that match.Rooting against a player (or team for that matter) would not simply be a matter of making things easier for another player or team. For example, it could be a matter of principle. Or simple dislike.
I find it hard to believe that anyone is entirely objective about it.
And that goes for all ages, I've found.
Kids through elders: They all want someone to lose.
Problem?
Suspect this is essentially the norm here.I have always rooted against McEnroe, Connors, Hingis, Serena (post-2003), Kyrgios, Osaka (post-FO 21).
Watching them lose gave and gives me at least as much satisfaction as seeing my faves (Lendl, Graf, Henin, Federer, Raducanu) win.
I'm not a fan of any of the big 3. I root against all of them when they face a younger player that might be slam champion material (as long as that younger player isn't boring, I want the big 3 to destroy Zverev or Berrettini)
And when the big 3 play each other, I want the one that has been winning most lately to lose.
So I wanted Djokovic to beat Federer in 2007 or 2008, and in 2019 I wanted Federer to beat Djokovic.
I do feel a lot of admiration and respect for them. Federer in particular I think is the best tennis player ever. Biggest offensive game, fantastic ball striker, and can do things that in the 2000s made me feel like CIA had given him a racket made with alien technology.
Everyone roots against someone. Everyone. To what extent and for what reason differs.I find it hard to believe that anyone is entirely objective about it.
And that goes for all ages, I've found.
Kids through elders: They all want someone to lose.
Problem?
That is very petty. I commend you for admitting it. It takes a lot of courageI have always rooted against McEnroe, Connors, Hingis, Serena (post-2003), Kyrgios, Osaka (post-FO 21).
Watching them lose gave and gives me at least as much satisfaction as seeing my faves (Lendl, Graf, Henin, Federer, Raducanu) win.
First off, I am offended at your alien jab.That is very petty. I commend you for admitting it. It takes a lot of courage
Kidding aside, I think it’s the norm. Anyone pretending otherwise must be some alien from another planet, or just lying. I confess that I take pleasure in seeing certain players losing too.
Oops, sorry for the unintentional offence, esteemed visitor from outer spaceFirst off, I am offended at your alien jab.
Secondly, I love the matches where going in I don't really care or have someone who I am rooting for and then something changes that. I get more invested and the match has more meaning and is more enjoyable.
This is pretty much the definition of competitive sports. But younger generations have been incorrectly taught that everyone is a winnerI find it hard to believe that anyone is entirely objective about it.
And that goes for all ages, I've found.
Kids through elders: They all want someone to lose.
Problem?
Most definitely.Everyone roots against someone. Everyone. To what extent and for what reason differs.
But let us not pretend like we come here for just tennis, tennis fans are fanatics. The emotional connection and dopamine we get from rooting is what we desire and why we come back.
We care, that is why we are invested. If you don't care, then you better hope the tennis is spectacular... And that rarely happens anymore.
It's an interesting question as to whether the impetus is more generational, or more cultural.This is pretty much the definition of competitive sports. But younger generations have been incorrectly taught that everyone is a winner