ATP 250 Antwerp Final: [4/WC]Stan Wawrinka(SUI) v [PR]Andy Murray(GBR)

Winner?

  • Andy in 2

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Andy in 3

    Votes: 11 28.2%
  • Stan in 2

    Votes: 14 35.9%
  • Stan in 3

    Votes: 12 30.8%

  • Total voters
    39
  • Poll closed .

Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
You can wrap this up and down play this with as many rose tinted spectacles you have but Murray winning a title with a metallic hip having just came back at Cincinnati is one hell of an achievement.

They built him better than he was. Better...stronger...faster.

 

yokied

Hall of Fame
The worst part is that Stan kept pointing at his head like he was in Stanimal mode even after early in the 2nd when it was pretty clear he was wobbling. I don't even know where to start with the 3rd. I'm amazed Stan was still breathing he was choking so hard. Bizarre behaviour for a guy who was easily dominating his opponent just rallying, not even needing really to worry too much about point construction.

I hate Murray at a cellular level but that's great win for the Murrovicians, over Stan too of all people. Nearly as good as a win over Fed.
 

Picmun

Hall of Fame
The worst part is that Stan kept pointing at his head like he was in Stanimal mode even after early in the 2nd when it was pretty clear he was wobbling. I don't even know where to start with the 3rd. I'm amazed Stan was still breathing he was choking so hard. Bizarre behaviour for a guy who was easily dominating his opponent just rallying, not even needing really to worry too much about point construction.

I hate Murray at a cellular level but that's great win for the Murrovicians, over Stan too of all people. Nearly as good as a win over Fed.
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Mainad

Bionic Poster
The worst part is that Stan kept pointing at his head like he was in Stanimal mode even after early in the 2nd when it was pretty clear he was wobbling. I don't even know where to start with the 3rd. I'm amazed Stan was still breathing he was choking so hard. Bizarre behaviour for a guy who was easily dominating his opponent just rallying, not even needing really to worry too much about point construction.

I hate Murray at a cellular level but that's great win for the Murrovicians, over Stan too of all people. Nearly as good as a win over Fed.

I get that he's no favourite of your's but what's with the hate? I have my favourites and non-favourites too but I don't hate anyone. Can never understand anybody who does.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
Surprised that I’m the first to mention this: tomorrow’s title will be the first one earned by either since they destroyed each other in the RG’17 SF, Stan 6-1 in the fifth.
They did not destroy each other in the RG 2017 SF. Murray already destroyed himself fighting for the YE #1 in 2016. Murray was already done at the beginning of 2017, he won 0 titles and was playing like sh*t at the beginning of 2017. Murray also lost in the early rounds of the AO 2017 to an unkown player. And Wawrinka got injured in the knee at Wimbledon 2017, not at Roland-Garros 2017. Wawrinka played the RG 2017 with no signs of pain the knee. Anyhow, if you want to be more specific, Wawrinka already had a bandage in the knee in the semifinal of the AO 2017 final. So it's not like he suddenly got injured in the RG 2017 SF.
 

Red Rick

Bionic Poster
They did not destroy each other in the RG 2017 SF. Murray already destroyed himself fighting for the YE #1 in 2016. Murray was already done at the beginning of 2017, he won 0 titles and was playing like sh*t at the beginning of 2017. Murray also lost in the early rounds of the AO 2017 to an unkown player. And Wawrinka got injured in the knee at Wimbledon 2017, not at Roland-Garros 2017. Wawrinka played the RG 2017 with no signs of pain the knee. Anyhow, if you want to be more specific, Wawrinka already had a bandage in the knee in the semifinal of the AO 2017 final. So it's not like he suddenly got injured in the RG 2017 SF.
Its all true

Especially Murray not winning titles in 2017
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
They did not destroy each other in the RG 2017 SF. Murray already destroyed himself fighting for the YE #1 in 2016. Murray was already done at the beginning of 2017, he won 0 titles and was playing like sh*t at the beginning of 2017. Murray also lost in the early rounds of the AO 2017 to an unkown player. And Wawrinka got injured in the knee at Wimbledon 2017, not at Roland-Garros 2017. Wawrinka played the RG 2017 with no signs of pain the knee. Anyhow, if you want to be more specific, Wawrinka already had a bandage in the knee in the semifinal of the AO 2017 final. So it's not like he suddenly got injured in the RG 2017 SF.
Well, Sport, you are wrong about Muzziah at the start of 2017:

1. He played well enough to go three at the Doha in the final vs Joe Kovic, saving 3 CPs at 5-4 second set on the Serbian serve and capping the comeback 7-5.

2. Mischa Zverev was not an “unknown” at the start of 2017, unless you don’t follow tennis (which you obviously don’t). He was top 50 on 1/8/17 and 4R at a slam is not “early.”

3. Murray won Dubai’17. Is that not a title in your myopic version of reality???

Yes, they did destroy each other. Wawrinka wasn’t the same after the match but he wasn’t carrying injury into the match; he had won Geneva the week before and sailed through 5 matches at RG without losing a set. He had also made the final of IW after his “knee strapping” at AO. He was a very good 25-8 entering that match and won just one set in three matches after that war. Murray went 13-5 (not “sh11ty tennis”) after the Zverev upset at AO and his landing was a little softer after they drubbed each other in that great SF, shaking off a 1R upset at Queens to Justin Thompson to get to a QF vs Querrey and a 2-1 set lead before getting double breadsticked and quitting for the season. They effectively destroyed each other and that’s not an uncommon opinion around here amongst people that follow tennis.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Its all true

Especially Murray not winning titles in 2017

Murray won Dubai in 2017. The only year he has never won a title since winning his first in 2006 was in 2018 when his hip injury kicked in and he underwent the first (unsuccessful) surgery.
 
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