atp2015
Hall of Fame
Just re-installed the app on my phone and it didn't help
do you have a hitting session to upload? did you try registering a hitting session before trying to upload?
Babolat POP tennis sensor
- Thread starter Solo Lee
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do you have a hitting session to upload? did you try registering a hitting session before trying to upload?
Yes, I played last night and this morning. Both times, the POP was still on after I finished hitting (3 blinking blue lights) so it shouldn't have run out of battery or turned off in the middle of the session. When it was working before, I would open the app, the POP sensor icon would be green, I would press it and then it would pop up a big "START" button to begin syncing. Now it either 1) lists my POP device (like this) and doesn't give me the sync session popup (orange sensor icon), or 2) can't find my POP at all even though it's right next to my phone (red sensor icon). Right now I'm stuck at #2 because I tried unpairing and re-pairing and now it can't see my POP at all.
I just fiddled around with it and it's working now. It's appearing in my bluetooth settings under "Available Devices" and it's blinking blue (blue, pause, blue, pause, etc.) - different from before when it was blinking 3 blue times in a row (blue, blue, blue, pause, repeat). No idea how I got it to do that, anyone know?
It is fun to have, but it really doesn't help with tracking. The data is too generalized for really good tracking.
It lists an avg and max speed for ground strokes and serves. So it is really hard to tell if a ball you just hit was faster or slower since you only get feedback at the end of a session.
I guess if you did a drill with only driving forehands and replicated that drill next week, you could compare it head to head.
But in any other situation with variance, the average speed is just too general. Imagine you drive a few forehands, place some, roll some with top spin and even hit some half volleys or slices. Even if you hit your best forehand drives, the other strokes might bring the average down to compare to a session where all you did is bang the ball. Sure the second session will have a higher average speed, but you can't compare it to the few drives you had in your mixed session.
A more practical example, if I play singles my average speeds for groundies are much higher than when I play doubles.
Sometimes when I play my best, my PIQ score is lower than times I was dragging my butt.
If down the road they allow you to see all the data it might be worth it. If you could look at the graph and see in the first set your FH was up 3MPH might be valuable if you got your butt kicked in the second.
It lists an avg and max speed for ground strokes and serves. So it is really hard to tell if a ball you just hit was faster or slower since you only get feedback at the end of a session.
I guess if you did a drill with only driving forehands and replicated that drill next week, you could compare it head to head.
But in any other situation with variance, the average speed is just too general. Imagine you drive a few forehands, place some, roll some with top spin and even hit some half volleys or slices. Even if you hit your best forehand drives, the other strokes might bring the average down to compare to a session where all you did is bang the ball. Sure the second session will have a higher average speed, but you can't compare it to the few drives you had in your mixed session.
A more practical example, if I play singles my average speeds for groundies are much higher than when I play doubles.
Sometimes when I play my best, my PIQ score is lower than times I was dragging my butt.
If down the road they allow you to see all the data it might be worth it. If you could look at the graph and see in the first set your FH was up 3MPH might be valuable if you got your butt kicked in the second.
Znak
Hall of Fame
Great I appreciate the feedback. Maybe I'll wait for the next iteration or gadget to hit the market
KluddKalle
Semi-Pro
@Babolat Official hi! Something seems to be up with the pop servers. Since a couple of weeks I haven’t been able to choose location, the function seems to time out. But maybe more alarming - since the start of April the ranking and activity score doesn’t seem to update. It still shows my result for March. I can still sync sessions without trouble.
Babolat Official
Hall of Fame
@KluddKalle sorry to hear things aren't working as they should. check your inbox for warranty contact information. thanks!
Babolat Official
Hall of Fame
@KluddKalle sorry to hear things aren't working as they should. check your inbox for warranty contact information. thanks!
Babolat Official
Hall of Fame
@KluddKalle sorry to hear things aren't working as they should. check your inbox for warranty contact information. thanks!
KluddKalle
Semi-Pro
Thanks! Will check it out. Although I’m pretty certain that the issues are on the server side of things, not the app or device.
Today the activity score and ranking for April finally got updated. Still can’t select location but that’s no big deal.
Can you say anything about future support for pop or if all your focus will be on the rumoured handle sensor “pulse”?
Babolat Official
Hall of Fame
@KluddKalle Unfortunately I have no further information at this time. Once I have a better idea, I will update you.
Shadowcash
New User
And please, keep informed me too in regards "a better idea of new babolat sensor "pulse"
Geaux Fish
New User
I've been a happy user of the Babolat PIQ sensor for almost two years. Unfortunately, I've misplaced the USB charger for it. Does anyone know where to find just the charger without having to buy a brand new unit?
TahoeTennis
Legend
Wore this for about a month, but started having wrist pain (it has to be semi tight to work correctly) and now I don't use it anymore. Data was fun, but now I don't like anything on my wrists when I play, other than an occasional sweat band.
not_too_shabby
New User
I just got one of the pop sensors. I saw some of the posts on wearing with a sweatband. Can you wear the strap over the top of a sweatband? Some of the posts indicated tucking it into a sweatband might cause problems.
You can wear the strap over a sweatband but it might not be as secure and more likely to come off. Originally I just used the strap but over time it started to fall apart and sometimes it would fall off when really sweaty. So for probably 2 years I would just put it under a large sweatband and it had no issues at all. I stopped using my POP after I had accidentally washed it twice. Survived the first time, but not the second. Unless they have updated the software, I really haven't missed having it.
mallikamt
New User
This is probably a broad question. How did you go about figuring out what improved your PIQ score on the Pop sensor over time? Did you do something along the lines of focusing on one thing with each stroke every time you played and seeing how it impacted the PIQ score? For example...focusing on weight transfer on the forehand..
What does the activity score represent? It appears that the ranking order is off in the Community section on the app. I see people ranked above me with a lower activity score. Wasn't sure that was a glitch or if I was reading something incorrectly. Thanks!
What does the activity score represent? It appears that the ranking order is off in the Community section on the app. I see people ranked above me with a lower activity score. Wasn't sure that was a glitch or if I was reading something incorrectly. Thanks!
haqq777
Legend
Spin. POP lays a lot of emphasis on spin. Also notices your takeback and follow through. Very very clear difference if I hit flat for the session or with topspin. Even with lower intensity spin groundstrokes, the PIQ score gets higher. And it doesn't get affected much even if I am hitting flatter than usual but with very high tempo and pace. My PIQ range is usually from 8500 to 9200 depending on who I am training with.
I am not sure about the Activity score. Never paid much attention to it.
mallikamt
New User
Thanks so much. I am a 3.0-3.5 player and am trying to work on adding more spin..among many other aspects of my game. I tried incorporating the stuff you mentioned this morning and already saw a bit of an improvement in my PIQ score. Would you say the primary difference between your flat and topspin shots is brushing the back of the ball and swinging low to high upwards for the topspin? I tend to compromise on the speed of the stroke when I try to add topspin. Thanks.Spin. POP lays a lot of emphasis on spin. Also notices your takeback and follow through. Very very clear difference if I hit flat for the session or with topspin. Even with lower intensity spin groundstrokes, the PIQ score gets higher. And it doesn't get affected much even if I am hitting flatter than usual but with very high tempo and pace. My PIQ range is usually from 8500 to 9200 depending on who I am training with.
I am not sure about the Activity score. Never paid much attention to it.
haqq777
Legend
Yes, I can see marked difference when I change stroke. As you face the net think of your racquet's tip going from right fence to the left fence in a windshield wiper motion with swing path low to high as you get under the ball. It will give you a much loopier, high net clearance ball as well. I would definitely recommend getting some lessons from a good coach and getting your fundamentals strong. It will help you a lot in the long run (way more than buying new gear and strings etc).
mallikamt
New User
Thanks, I've been taking group lessons once a week since I started in late 2018. I've been considering private lessons but they are $$$.
haqq777
Legend
Yes, I definitely understand. Tennis does have a bigger learning curve than most other sports as well. You learn everyday. Just keep on practicing, playing and having fun. Best of luck to you.
sanister
Professional
Holy hell. Looking at these scores, you are very a good player! My scores rarely touch 7000 and if they do I have to check if sensor is okay. And I'm not that bad of a player (beat 90% of 4.0 players, get beaten by 90% of 4.5s)Spin. POP lays a lot of emphasis on spin. Also notices your takeback and follow through. Very very clear difference if I hit flat for the session or with topspin. Even with lower intensity spin groundstrokes, the PIQ score gets higher. And it doesn't get affected much even if I am hitting flatter than usual but with very high tempo and pace. My PIQ range is usually from 8500 to 9200 depending on who I am training with.
I am not sure about the Activity score. Never paid much attention to it.
mallikamt
New User
I've been able to hit 7000 plus fairly consistently on my backhand. When I incorporated some changes that haqq777 mentioned with a more exaggerated C shaped stroke on the forehand on the ball machine, I saw better PIQ scores on the forehand..but mine are like 5500 at best. But struggling to get spin on the forehand..unless I hit lobs. I feel like I am doing as I am supposed to but I get a very low percentage of shots register as topspin..like fewer than 5 out of a 100 strokes.
not_too_shabby
New User
Anyone who still uses the POP PIQ sensor getting a "server issue" message on the app? I am wondering if it is end of life, or eventually they will get it back up and running. It looks like the app is off the App Store now too. I did find it useful, particularly to gauge whether my serve speed was improving.
not_too_shabby
New User
Bummer.....
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FlamingCheeto
Hall of Fame
it was cool for about 45 days but the trend is dead, wasn't comfortable at all to wear around the wrist
not_too_shabby
New User
Has anyone who used the PIQ sensor found a good alternative using an Apple Watch? I hadn't really though of that till yesterday when I was checking out the swing vision app.
not_too_shabby
New User
The SwingVision Apple Watch app does a lot of what the pop sensor did. That is what I use now.
