Battle of the Borebots tomorrow => Medvedev vs Sinner

[Baseline_Bungle]

He is not that bad. Why do you feel he is evil ? He seems like a friendly person..

I mean he's been known to send a few dl¢k-pics to 15 year old girls every now and then*, but other than that I find him kinda funny, very interesting to listen to, and oddly entertaining to watch. One of the weirdest players ever to reach the top of the game.

Of course, tomorrow he is the enemy.

* allegedly, of course, ALLEGEDLY. before I get banned.

 

[pirhaksar]

Sinner and Alcaraz could ensure that Djokovic never equals Federer's Wimbledon mark. They will protect Federer's last shred of dignity. 90s gen failed to stop Djokodal from reaching Federer's 20 but Sinner and Alcaraz could help Federer keep his last record of importance i.e the wimbledon record.

Come on man, last shred of dignity!? Even if Novak gets 8 wimbledons, Roger will be the Wimbledon goat even Novak will admit that forget general fans.

 

[Jonesy]

Two players that i love to watch, but i have to back my boy Sinner even though he still needs to show he can implement a winning gameplan in BO5 against the Madness of a thousand strokes.

 

[sortof]

Both are interesting. Sinner's tennis is much more attractive, but Medvedev's is strikingly unique. Medvedev does need the right dance partner otherwise the tennis gets grotesque. Hopefully he doesn't sink Sinner to his level of bizarre and hypnotic mooncamping and is punished by effective net play.

The right (dance) partners really are essential for an entertaining match of tennis. Remember those Djokovic vs. Murray matches? Mostly as exciting was watching paint dry.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

OP sounds salty. Put some respect on Sinner and Meddy! You need to move on from the big 3 and know tennis is in good hands in the future! It great to see new rivalries and new champions.

 

[Razer]

Come on man, last shred of dignity!? Even if Novak gets 8 wimbledons, Roger will be the Wimbledon goat even Novak will admit that forget general fans.

It won't be in novak's hands anymore if he gets 8 Wimbledons, even if he wants to say Fed is better than him the next gen kids who will look at numbers shall see 8=8 & 3-1 h2h, that will do what it has to do..

 

[Razer]

Wimbledon cancellation in 2020 was the reason Novak has 7 titles, not the young guns. You can bet all the maharaja treasures that Novak will not stop until he reaches at least 8 Wimbledon titles and 5 US Open titles.

5th US Open could be even harder to win than 8th Wimbledon.

Let's see what happens this year

 

[a10best]

Djokovic is a great player but has a very boring baseline bot game.
Kind of like watching RBA.

 

[a10best]

It won't be in novak's hands anymore if he gets 8 Wimbledons, even if he wants to say Fed is better than him the next gen kids who will look at numbers shall see 8=8 & 3-1 h2h, that will do what it has to do..

You're predicting that next-gen kids will read about tennis more than watching video highlights.
Fed & Rafa have more fans. Both have a clothing brand and one has a famous academy.
From what I see Djokovic has missed the opportunity to brand himself during his fame. Maybe his cryo-recovery investment will pay off.

 

[alexio]

strange feeling but dont remember for sure, unlike almost every other game, whether i played or not battletoads in 90s, hmm, really sad.. if didnt

 

[Razer]

You're predicting that next-gen kids will read about tennis more than watching video highlights.
Fed & Rafa have more fans. Both have a clothing brand and one has a famous academy.
From what I see Djokovic has missed the opportunity to brand himself during his fame. Maybe his cryo-recovery investment will pay off.

Mceneoe today has more visibility and popularity than Sampras but Sampras's numbers have kept him more relevant to those who never saw either of them play.

Sameway Djokovic's numbers which are above Fedal will ensure than he is above Fedal even for next gen kids who are growing up now. Federer's shoe brand or Nadal's academy won't help them in the future, only numbers can because nobody has the patience/interest to watch old videos before their time. It just doesn't interest most ppl... So only numbers shall matter in the end.

 

[Genie Of the Bank]

5th US Open could be even harder to win than 8th Wimbledon.

Let's see what happens this year

Yes, high humidity in New York is usually Novak downfall.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Yes, high humidity in New York is usually Novak downfall.

He will win uso.

 

[pirhaksar]

It won't be in novak's hands anymore if he gets 8 Wimbledons, even if he wants to say Fed is better than him the next gen kids who will look at numbers shall see 8=8 & 3-1 h2h, that will do what it has to do..

By that logic Djokovic in 20 yrs would be undisputed goat given his body of work across the board. This also runs against the very foundational ideals of TTW fanwars

 

[a10best]

Mceneoe today has more visibility and popularity than Sampras but Sampras's numbers have kept him more relevant to those who never saw either of them play.

Sameway Djokovic's numbers which are above Fedal will ensure than he is above Fedal even for next gen kids who are growing up now. Federer's shoe brand or Nafal's academy won't help them in the future, only numbers can because nobody has the patience/interest to watch old videos before their time. It just doesn't interest most ppl... So only numbers shall matter in the end.

Sports is both a popularity and championship numbers contest.
And today everyone knows stats are inflated across several sports.
- NFL QB,s receivers and passes caught because it's pass first offense with short passes. 17 games vs. 14 & 16 in the past for a season.
- NBA games have far more points scored today.
- MLB have 20 run games.
- ATP - The big 3 benefitted from a weak era. The WTA remained balanced.

We disagree about McEnroe being more popular than Sampras. Pete was chasing Laver (not Mac) and wanted to quietly retire with his family. He let Andre have all the media attention while he just won on the big stages. 14 slams to 8 (Agassi) is a big difference, almost 50%. 14 to 7 (McEnroe) is 50-percent better. Pete won 7 Wimbledon's in 8 years is a huge achievement in a strong era of grass ct tennis.

Besides, winning 24, 22, or 20 slams the difference is just 10-15% between them. If we dive in a little more, Djokovic won 7 slams since 2021 beating Tsits 2x, Med 2x, Ruud, Kyrios, and Berr.
So Djokovic was behind both Fed & Rafa with 19 slams once his true rivals were obviously hobbled from injury or semi-retired & played against mugs, padding his stats.
If Djokovic were older and Rafa or Fed younger and they played these levels weaker opponents they'd have more slams too.
McEnroe did do very well in his era of the big 3 or 4. Borg, Connors, and Lendl.

 

[Razer]

Sports is both a popularity and championship numbers contest.
And today everyone knows stats are inflated across several sports.
- NFL QB,s receivers and passes caught because it's pass first offense with short passes. 17 games vs. 14 & 16 in the past for a season.
- NBA games have far more points scored today.
- MLB have 20 run games.
- ATP - The big 3 benefitted from a weak era. The WTA remained balanced.

We disagree about McEnroe being more popular than Sampras. Pete was chasing Laver (not Mac) and wanted to quietly retire with his family. He let Andre have all the media attention while he just won on the big stages. 14 slams to 8 (Agassi) is a big difference, almost 50%. 14 to 7 (McEnroe) is 50-percent better. Pete won 7 Wimbledon's in 8 years is a huge achievement in a strong era of grass ct tennis.

Besides, winning 24, 22, or 20 slams the difference is just 10-15% between them. If we dive in a little more, Djokovic won 7 slams since 2021 beating Tsits 2x, Med 2x, Ruud, Kyrios, and Berr.
So Djokovic was behind both Fed & Rafa with 19 slams once his true rivals were obviously hobbled from injury or semi-retired & played against mugs, padding his stats.
If Djokovic were older and Rafa or Fed younger and they played these levels weaker opponents they'd have more slams too.
McEnroe did do very well in his era of the big 3 or 4. Borg, Connors, and Lendl.

Why are you telling me all this ?
I am aware of all this bud...

Your real challenge will be to tell all this to the kids born in 2010s decade and afterwards, good luck telling them about Roger's greatness when he has a losing h2h to both his rivals.....they won't care if Fed was older or disadvantaged or Djokovic's wins vs berrerini/Kyrgios/Stefan/Ruud etc etc.....in the end people only will look at the final numbers..

Sports is also a popularity contest along with numbers, I agree with you, but once the players are gone then new players continue to get the adulation of the fans. This is how the world operates.

 

[Tennfan123]

I don't mind they're boring at all.
Sinner is quite pleasant to watch with his clean hitting and winners.
Meddy is fun with his ugly strokes and I love his backhand down the line.
It's enough for me to watch them ply their trades with 3 million and a trophy at stake.
The main thing is that neither of them are idiots.

 

[soldat]

I like both players, obviously I wanted Djokovic to win but I’m glad Medvedev also made the final.

Both their games are quite good. My own feeling is that the level of sports is advancing each year. That’s why stats keep getting better.

 

[krmr]

I don't know how anyone can watch this match and call it boring

 

[forehand-slice]

Mceneoe today has more visibility and popularity than Sampras but Sampras's numbers have kept him more relevant to those who never saw either of them play.

Sameway Djokovic's numbers which are above Fedal will ensure than he is above Fedal even for next gen kids who are growing up now. Federer's shoe brand or Nadal's academy won't help them in the future, only numbers can because nobody has the patience/interest to watch old videos before their time. It just doesn't interest most ppl... So only numbers shall matter in the end.

This is completely the opposite of the truth in ALL sports and games. Competitors from the past are remembered for something charismatic and unique, not for numbers (which are seen as dry facts and not comparable to other eras after 20 years or so). Nobody remembers or rates Karpov above Bobby Fischer in chess despite Karpov having the lead in numbers, etc.

 

[Pass750]

Medvedev seems like the ultimate pusher. I give him credit for winning and mental toughness, but that was hard to watch.

 

[kailash]

The grinder vs sinner.
H2H is 6-3 in favor of Medvedev!

Will be an interesting match tomorrow!

 

[hoodjem]

Any one but Djokovader!
YAY!
(I can watch tennis again.)

 

[The Blond Blur]

The correct answer is that Medvedev has the more interesting personality but the more boring game. While the Sinner has the boring personality and the more interesting game. And it’s also good for the game that we have 2 guys in their prime going at it instead of 1 super declined old guy winning everything.

 

[nolefam_2024]

I don't know how anyone can watch this match and call it boring

Any tennis fan will never find it boring.

 

[THUNDERVOLLEY]

Who is more boring?

Is this final good for tennis ?

First Aus Open Final since 2005 without Federer/Nadal/Djokovic

I am confused on whom to support, both of them are unattractive gamewise

Going into the final, one might say it will be a "who cares which one wins" affair, but Medvedev has a major, and if he wins after a dry spell of several years, he will not appear to have been a fluke majors champion (even if he never wins another).

Anything is better than having the domestic assault man as one of the finalists.

 

[Genie Of the Bank]

He will win uso.

50/50 , the temperature and the humidity will be telling the odds for a win.

 

[sortof]

Anything is better than having the domestic assault man as one of the finalists.

Spoken as a true supporter of the ABZ camp

 

[LuckyR]

Who is more boring?

Is this final good for tennis ?

First Aus Open Final since 2005 without Federer/Nadal/Djokovic

I am confused on whom to support, both of them are unattractive gamewise

Meaningless without an example of your opinion of "exciting".

 

[MichaelNadal]

Any one but Djokovader!
YAY!
(I can watch tennis again.)

Slay bestie

 

[hoodjem]

So Djokovic was behind both Fed & Rafa with 19 slams once his true rivals were obviously hobbled from injury or semi-retired & played against mugs, padding his stats.
If Djokovic were older and Rafa or Fed younger and they played these levels weaker opponents they'd have more slams too.

Well, yes obviously.
It's not Djokovader the Conqueror; it's Djokovader the Younger.

 

[Omega_7000]

As compared to the exciting ball bouncing backboard that is Djokovic???

 

[travlerajm]

We have already lost. Evil has already won.

Medvedev in a slam final. Medvedev giving a post match speech. The world should not have to be subjected to Medvedev’s disgusting game, antics, and behavior. I feel embarrassed discussing the sport with friends of mine whom I respect. I would never force them to watch such a scourge on tennis as the deplorable Medvedev.

Personally, even if Sinner wins in straights, it will not be enough. Medvedev simply showing up and being broadcast on the world’s biggest stage is a victory for evil and defeat for good.

Medvedev victory confirmed.

 

[Winners or Errors]

Hmm, is it possible that it could be anywhere near as boring as Murrovic? I think that is simply impossible. I like Murray and Djokovic, but would rather watch paint dry than those two play tennis against each other. No way will Sinner-Medvedev reach that level of boredom. I expect to be on the edge of my seat, actually.

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

Novak is boring and Rafa too but we all got entertained all these years, unless you are not a true tennis fan or don't even know how to play tennis.

Don't think the general public will be tuning in.

Sinner vs Med will not attract viewers. Look for a huge TV ratings drop.

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

I expect to be on the edge of my seat, actually.

 

[messiahrobins]

Pathetic biased poll options. This final is incredible for tennis and the mens tour.

Another boring Djokovic final would have been hideous. That US Open final was a yawnfest.

I couldn’t be more excited for Sinner v Medvedev!! And know that so many agree. You’re in the minority.

@dking68 @Kralingen lets gooo!

Alcaraz v Sinner would have been absolutely epic. Although imwant medvedec to win , the best thing for tennis is a sinner win as i think it would bring alcaraz back down to earth and a new atg rivalry will begin in earnest. Throw in Rune and next 15 years could be special.

 

[messiahrobins]

Sinner and Alcaraz could ensure that Djokovic never equals Federer's Wimbledon mark. They will protect Federer's last shred of dignity. 90s gen failed to stop Djokodal from reaching Federer's 20 but Sinner and Alcaraz could help Federer keep his last record of importance i.e the wimbledon record.

Federer has the uso record as well albeir jointly

 

[Rosstour]

Nothing boring about Medvedev's personality, he can be a total a-hole to fans, umpires and opponents depending on the day. So if you like Novak's boorish behavior then Medvedev should suffice

I'm loving Sinner right now. His postmatch remarks are just what we need after years of the Djokanye West act

 

[Bartelby]

Let's face it, most people don't like Novak so they are overjoyed at his loss.

 

[LuckyR]

Let's face it, most people don't like Novak so they are overjoyed at his loss.

Correct, outside of Serbia.

 

[insideguy]

Heck I have been bored with most of mens tennis over the last 5 years with a few exceptions. I think I like the masters better than slams. Best of 5 is too long for me.

 

[Bartelby]

n=people on this board, not in the world

Correct, outside of Serbia.

 

[NeutralFan]

Come on man, last shred of dignity!? Even if Novak gets 8 wimbledons, Roger will be the Wimbledon goat even Novak will admit that forget general fans.

Sampras?you forgot him?