Bold prediction: Nadal will not win any tuneups but will win RG

Fiji

Fiji

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Yup. Nadal will not win Madrid or Rome but he will win his last RG title this year. A full circle like Borg(first and last slam at RG), Sampras(first and last slam at USO) and Federer(first and last slam at Wimbledon).

Nadal(first and last slam at RG).


The opposite of 2009 where he won most of the tuneups(Monte Carlo, Rome and Barcelona) but lost at RG. This year he wins none of the tuneups but wins his 9th and final RG title.


Barcelona is irrelevant since its mm and he avoids the likes of Djokovic, Wawrinka and Federer.
 
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Backspin1183

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Too many bold predictions from OP. Djokovic, Wawrinka, Nadal. Someone needs to tell him there are only 4 Slams in a year. They all can't have 2-3 slams each in a year.
 
yellowoctopus

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If Mr. Nadal doesn't win the 2014 Roland Garros....oh, who am I kidding? The only way Mr. Nadal will not win this year's Roland Garros is that an injury happens to coincide with the match that he lose.

Otherwise, Mr. Nadal is still king of the tournament.

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cc0509

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Fiji said:
Yup. Nadal will not win Madrid or Rome but he will win his last RG title this year. A full circle like Borg(first and last slam at RG), Sampras(first and last slam at USO) and Federer(first and last slam at Wimbledon).

Nadal(first and last slam at RG).


The opposite of 2009 where he won most of the tuneups(Monte Carlo, Rome and Barcelona) but lost at RG. This year he wins none of the tuneups but wins his 9th and final RG title.


Barcelona is irrelevant since its mm and he avoids the likes of Djokovic, Wawrinka and Federer.
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This is after you said a couple of weeks ago that Djokovic was going to win all of the remaining slams this year and that Nadal could not possibly win at least a slam a year for 10 years in a row. Right? :confused: WTH? Can't take you very seriously , sorry.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

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You were wrong. However, you picked the right winner (not a bold call though).
 
tennis_pro

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Nathaniel_Near said:
You were wrong. However, you picked the right winner (not a bold call though).
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Omg you can't make everyone happy, this time it's you who's whining. That was a fantastic prediction, Nadal lost in Barcelona, Monte Carlo, Rome and should've lost Madrid as well, really (you can't predict a midmatch injury during the final!) but got the job done at the FO, nevertheless.

Fiji I upgrade you to no 1 on my "TT prophet" list, well done. Waiting for more of your predictions.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

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You can't predict injury but it happened, so Nadal won a tune-up event and won RG, which he's done now for 9 of the last 10 years.
 
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tennis_pro said:
Omg you can't make everyone happy, this time it's you who's whining. That was a fantastic prediction, Nadal lost in Barcelona, Monte Carlo, Rome and should've lost Madrid as well, really (you can't predict a midmatch injury during the final!) but got the job done at the FO, nevertheless.

Fiji I upgrade you to no 1 on my "TT prophet" list, well done. Waiting for more of your predictions.
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Same here. Nate needs to rethink his stance.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

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tennis_pro said:
I wanna see you make a bold prediction, then, and let's see how close you get. Come on.
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You seem to be a very stout defender. Many of us here make predictions all the time, some of them bold some of them less bold.

Many of us predicted Nadal would have a less dominant clay season with the signs that presented themselves in the HC swing but that he would still win RG.

I wouldn't call this a bold prediction.

Small and big predictions here are made every week by many posters, some of which are right and some of which are wrong.

If someone predicts that Andy Murray will win Wimbledon this year given all that's happened then I'd credit it as a bold prediction nicely predicted, though I'd sincerely hope they wouldn't need to throw it in other's faces.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

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Perhaps but one can also argue Nole was ill or whatever and not prepared for the RG final, which also couldn't be predicted.

I'm not saying that I buy into that theory though, got no idea how Nole truly was physically on that day. Nadal looked iffy too deep into the 4th but it was a physical match.
 
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Fiji said:
Technically I was right since he really didnt win Madrid, Nishikori retired.
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You were wrong 2 times over because you also predicted that Nadal wouldn't win any Slam this year in a different thread, and of course Nadal did also win a tuneup.
 
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ultradr

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Fiji said:
Yup. Nadal will not win Madrid or Rome but he will win his last RG title this year. A full circle like Borg(first and last slam at RG), Sampras(first and last slam at USO) and Federer(first and last slam at Wimbledon).

Nadal(first and last slam at RG).


The opposite of 2009 where he won most of the tuneups(Monte Carlo, Rome and Barcelona) but lost at RG. This year he wins none of the tuneups but wins his 9th and final RG title.


Barcelona is irrelevant since its mm and he avoids the likes of Djokovic, Wawrinka and Federer.
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This was pretty good call. reasonably good insight into what's happening inside top echelon of tour.
 
tennis_pro

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Nathaniel_Near said:
You seem to be a very stout defender. Many of us here make predictions all the time, some of them bold some of them less bold.
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Nice generalization, you think I'm gonna fall for that? I knew you had no guts to make a proper prediction (like a new thread or something), all you can do is critisize others and point out their fails yeah since you probably fail yourself!

Nathaniel_Near said:
Many of us predicted Nadal would have a less dominant clay season with the signs that presented themselves in the HC swing but that he would still win RG. I wouldn't call this a bold prediction.
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Find me 1 single post. You can go through the entire forum and spend 10 years looking for it. You're no genius if you predicted Nadal to have a "less dominant clay season", well guess what it's hard not to as he won just about every tournament he played last year on the surface. NOT EVEN CLOSE to predicting him to fall in every tournament before the French but winning the Slam, anyway.

Nathaniel_Near said:
Small and big predictions here are made every week by many posters, some of which are right and some of which are wrong.
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Since you make none you have no right to laugh at others. Once again let's see you man up and make a thread with a PROPER prediction, not that Murray is gonna win Wimbledon now cause that's very possible. Unlike predicting Nadal to fail in every clay tournament and still winning the FO - the odds on that were very low that's why I give props to Fiji cause he came very close. You don't cause all you do here is whine.
 
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tennis_pro said:
Nice generalization, you think I'm gonna fall for that? I knew you had no guts to make a proper prediction (like a new thread or something), all you can do is critisize others and point out their fails yeah since you probably fail yourself!



Find me 1 single post. You can go through the entire forum and spend 10 years looking for it.



Since you make none you have no right to laugh at others. Once again let's see you man up and make a thread with a PROPER prediction, not that Murray is gonna win Wimbledon now cause that's very possible. Unlike predicting Nadal to fail in every clay tournament and still winning the FO - the odds on that were very low that's why I give props to Fiji cause he came very close.
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People make predictions here all the time, it isn't magic. Not everybody posts threads about their predictions or feels the need to shout them out aloud.

Generally, many people have posted in the last months in threads that they think Nadal will have a harder time of the clay season generally but still come out the winner at RG. It's quite a logical and common prediction because Nadal is getting older and Djokovic went on another run against him at recent events but is still probably the best clay-courter in the world.

Also, I've made several outright prediction threads many times, so your accusations are invalid. :p

You get some right you get some wrong. As shown recently with the numerous bumps of Fiji's threads, he gets a lot wrong too. Why? Because that's the beauty of sport.
 
tennis_pro

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Nathaniel_Near said:
Generally, many people have posted in the last months in threads that they think Nadal will have a harder time of the clay season generally but still come out the winner at RG. It's quite a logical and common prediction because Nadal is getting older and Djokovic went on another run against him at recent events but is still probably the best clay-courter in the world.
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If there have been so many posts with an IDENTICAL claim, you won't have a hard time finding me ONE. You're all talk. Stop making an argument if you have nothing to back it up.

Nathaniel_Near said:
Also, I've made several outright prediction threads many times, so your accusations are invalid. You get some right you get some wrong. As shown recently with the numerous bumps of Fiji's threads, he gets a lot wrong too. Why? Because that's the beauty of sport.
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The fact is, he's making tons of low-odds predictions so even if he gets one right, props to him. I wouldn't be a friggin prophet if I predicted "one of the big 4 to win Wimbledon", would I, now?

So once again, quit pointing out others "failures" cause you're no angel yourself. You don't even have the guts to make a single prediction for comparison. Make one, get it right and then laugh all you want. Until then, shut it.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

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Also, making the prediction thread that Murray will defend his Wimbledon title given his current world ranking, recent back surgery and lack of tournament wins would probably be a bolder prediction to make than predicting that Nadal will still win RG but not win a tune-up event (which he did, he won Madrid). I won't be making this thread, as I don't believe that Murray will win Wimbledon, though let's wait for Queens and Halle to end first.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

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tennis_pro said:
If there have been so many posts with an IDENTICAL claim, you won't have a hard time finding me ONE. You're all talk. Stop making an argument if you have nothing to back it up.
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It's not important for me to go looking through threads of the past months to find instances of posters generally stating things along the lines and general sentiment of ''yeah Nadal will struggle more but win RG''. They were common just as it was also common for people to predict that Nole would finally win his first RG title.


Fognini winning RG, now that was a bold prediction! Kudos and kind regards, Mr.Wynter. ;)
 
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Nathaniel_Near

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When you make lots of predictions, you're bound to get a few right, such as Nadal winning the 2014 RG while having a less successful clay season overall.
 
tennis_pro

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Nathaniel_Near said:
It's not important for me to go looking through threads of the past months to find instances of posters generally stating things along the lines and general sentiment of ''yeah Nadal will struggle more but win RG''. They were common just as it was also common for people to predict that Nole would finally win his first RG title.
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I come here almost every day when there's something going on and I don't recall a single statment in the likes of "Nadal to struggle but win FO in the end". I've seen tons of "Nadal will struggle on clay" but you can't put both predictions in the same basket cause they are on a completely different level of likelihood.
 
tennis_pro

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Nathaniel_Near said:
When you make lots of predictions, you're bound to get a few right, such as Nadal winning the 2014 RG while having a less successful clay season overall.
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Fiji made a VERY PRECISE prediction, he didn't generalize like you're doing it all the time - he predicted Nadal to fail in every single clay tournament prior to the FO and he came very close. He had no room to manouver with this prediction and that's why I give him props for almost getting it right. If I made a thread like "Nadal to struggle in the clay season" I would be 95% sure to get it right knowing the definition of a "Nadal struggle on clay" could just as well mean losing 1 single match by him looking how dominant he has been on the surface.

There's a difference between "struggling on clay" and "losing in every single tune-up tournament". You have to be either very stubborn or blind not to see this. These are 2 completely different things.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

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Hmm, Nadal won Barcelona and Madrid, two clay events before RG, and then won RG of course (OK let's ignore Barca). Your defence is admirable.
 
Fiji

Fiji

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Nole is winning Wimbledon this year. Bold prediction since grass is his worst surface. Winning another Wimbledon seems too much, right? Wrong.


Wawrinka is winning the USO this year. Bold prediction since it seems he will go down as a one slam wonder, right? Wrong.
 
tennis_pro

tennis_pro

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Nathaniel_Near said:
Hmm, Nadal won Barcelona and Madrid, two clay events before RG, and then won RG of course. Your defence is admirable.
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Just as your incompetence and complete ignorance. Nadal won Barcelona? Really? And you call yourself a Nadal fan?

I'll put it this way cause I see you're struggling with basic logic. Let's compare 2 "similar" (in your own mind) predictions:

1) Nadal to lose every single clay tournament before the FO. This means that...Nadal is going to lose in every single clay tournament before the FO, thank you very much.

2) Nadal to struggle on clay. This could basically mean anything other than Nadal doing a clean sweep like in 2010.

See the difference now?

Don't get into discussions with me in the future if you don't know the basics cause I'm not gonna fall for your cheap arguments. You didn't even know that Nadal lost in Barcelona.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

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Waw winning the US Open is a big call, no doubt. Nole winning Wimbledon a bold prediction? Well, it is his worst surface. Interestingly though, he is the bookies favourite.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

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tennis_pro said:
Just as your incompetence and complete ignorance. Nadal won Barcelona? Really? And you call yourself a Nadal fan?

I'll put it this way cause I see you're struggling with basic logic. Let's compare 2 "similar" (in your own mind) predictions:

1) Nadal to lose every single clay tournament before the FO. This means that...Nadal is going to lose in every single clay tournament before the FO, thank you very much.

2) Nadal to struggle on clay. This could basically mean anything other than Nadal doing a clean sweep like in 2010.

See the difference now?
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The sentiment is the same, all 1 does is try to precisely guess the exact manner of 2 -- specifying the struggle. Ultimately though, in trying to turn the general sentiment into a more precise prediction it ultimately didn't quite hold up, injuries or not.

I'm not a Nadal fan, though. :)
 
beast of mallorca

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tennis_pro said:
Just as your incompetence and complete ignorance. Nadal won Barcelona? Really? And you call yourself a Nadal fan?

I'll put it this way cause I see you're struggling with basic logic. Let's compare 2 "similar" (in your own mind) predictions:

1) Nadal to lose every single clay tournament before the FO. This means that...Nadal is going to lose in every single clay tournament before the FO, thank you very much.

2) Nadal to struggle on clay. This could basically mean anything other than Nadal doing a clean sweep like in 2010.

See the difference now?

Don't get into discussions with me in the future if you don't know the basics cause I'm not gonna fall for your cheap arguments. You didn't even know that Nadal lost in Barcelona.
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Why are you grilling Nathaniel ? Fiji made all sorts predictions from Djoker winning FO and Rafa winning FO and everything in between Some of those predictions are bound to happen. Nothing bold about those. Just sayin.

Look at all of Fiji's predictions about the FO. Contradictory and all encompassing. FYI. I like Fiji, but his predictions aren't bold, me thinks :)
 
tennis_pro

tennis_pro

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Nathaniel_Near said:
The sentiment is the same, all 1 does is try to precisely guess the exact manner of 2 -- specifying the struggle. Ultimately though, in trying to turn the general sentiment into a more precise prediction it ultimately didn't quite hold up, injuries or not.

I'm not a Nadal fan, though. :)
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Yeah that's childs play. Except the odds on "Nadal losing in every clay tournament before the FO" were extremely low while "Nadal to struggle on clay" was almost a certainty (if you can even specify the range of a Nadal struggle on clay which could just as well mean losing 1 match only). If you can't see the difference there's no point arguing with you.

Nathaniel_Near said:
I'm not a Nadal fan, though. :)
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A Nadal fangirl - makes no difference to me.
 
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tennis_pro

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beast of mallorca said:
Why are you grilling Nathaniel ? Fiji made all sorts predictions from Djoker winning FO and Rafa winning FO and everything in between Some of those predictions are bound to happen. Nothing bold about those. Just sayin.

Look at all of Fiji's predictions about the FO. Contradictory and all encompassing. FYI. I like Fiji, but his predictions aren't bold, me thinks :)
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He could make another 20 but I give him props for almost getting this one right. I don't think anyone else thought Nadal was gonna lose so many matches on clay this year.
 
Fiji

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beast of mallorca said:
Why are you grilling Nathaniel ? Fiji made all sorts predictions from Djoker winning FO and Rafa winning FO and everything in between Some of those predictions are bound to happen. Nothing bold about those. Just sayin.

Look at all of Fiji's predictions about the FO. Contradictory and all encompassing. FYI. I like Fiji, but his predictions aren't bold, me thinks :)
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You just mad because Nadal is not winning Wimbledon or the USO this year.
 
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