Brazilian players complain of racist abuse from Argentine fans!

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Brazilian Davis Cup players Joao Souza and Thomaz Bellucci were reportedly racially abused during the loss to Argentina in Buenos Aires.
By Eurosport UK 1 hour ago Eurosport

The tie between the two South American rivals was typically fierce, with a raucous crowd overseeing Argentina’s dramatic 3-2 victory, but the encounter was marred by apparent racist taunts during the longest singles match in the competition’s history.

Brazil’s Sousza was involved in a five-set epic against Leonardo Mayer on Sunday that lasted six hours and 42 minutes. Home favourite Mayer squandered an incredible ten match points before breaking Souza’s serve to close out the match 7-6 7-6 5-7 5-7 15-13.

However, it was during that match that Souza was reportedly the target of racist abuse – the 26-year-old telling Brazilian website SporTV.com: “I wanted to go to the umpire but I would be jeered even more, it would only make it worse. We know it’s tough to play away from home, but racism is a bit too much.”

Belluci also complained of abuse during his decisive fifth-rubber tie against Federico Delbonis of which the Argentine won 6-3 3-6 6-2 7-5.

“It was the toughest day to play,” Bellucci told SporTV.com. “There was a lot of noise, a lot of people talking to me when I was serving. They were cursing at me every time I went for the towel. We knew it was going to be like this, we knew we were not going to be treated as lords.”

Argentina sealed a spot in the Davis Cup quarter-finals with the win over Brazil and will now face Serbia. The South Americans are still seeking their first Davis Cup title. They have been runners-up four times: 1981, 2006, 2008 and 2011.

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Bellucci and Souza don't look racially different from their opponents so I'm guessing this was more of a general slur against Brazilians in general? :shock:
 
There's a history of negative rivalry between the two countries and those kinds of things are driven by the stereotype, not the reality. The irony here being that many groups in Brazil, especially southern Brazil, came from the same parts of Europe that many Argentinians claim as their heritage.

As is often the case, big rivalries come from close relationships.
 

pmerk34

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There's a history of negative rivalry between the two countries and those kinds of things are driven by the stereotype, not the reality. The irony here being that many groups in Brazil, especially southern Brazil, came from the same parts of Europe that many Argentinians claim as their heritage.

As is often the case, big rivalries come from close relationships.

Brazil has a huge part of that population that most consider black. By contrast Buenos Areas is listed as a 95% white city. Argentinians consider themselves white.
 

tennisaddict

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Brazil has a huge part of that population that most consider black. By contrast Buenos Areas is listed as a 95% white city. Argentinians consider themselves white.

Bellucci looks as white as Delbonis.

How do we distinguish home crowd heckling opponent as opposed to racism ?

Did the Brazilians get taunted with racial slurs ?
 

pmerk34

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Bellucci looks as white as Delbonis.

How do we distinguish home crowd heckling opponent as opposed to racism ?

Did the Brazilians get taunted with racial slurs ?

You are correct on Belluci. Who knows what every person the crowd who is yelling is thinking at that moment.
 
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Brazil vs Argentina gets heated .. what else is new?
 

mule250

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Brazil has a huge part of that population that most consider black. By contrast Buenos Areas is listed as a 95% white city. Argentinians consider themselves white.

Where is Buenos Aires listed as a 95% white city? I've been there and that number doesn't sound close to being correct.
 
Brazil has a huge part of that population that most consider black. By contrast Buenos Areas is listed as a 95% white city. Argentinians consider themselves white.

Southern Brazil was settled by the same European groups, Italian, German, etc that settled northern Argentina.

There are some extremely European-looking cities there, just as much as Argentina is touted for.

Edit: If you read this you'll learn that Afro-Brazilians are amongst the smallest groups defined by their census and White Brazilians (their terms) are the largest single group.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_Brazil
 
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pmerk34

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Southern Brazil was settled by the same European groups, Italian, German, etc that settled northern Argentina.

There are some extremely European-looking cities there, just as much as Argentina is touted for.

Edit: If you read this you'll learn that Afro-Brazilians are amongst the smallest groups defined by their census and White Brazilians (their terms) are the largest single group.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_Brazil

Wiki lists the country as 7% black and 43% brown. Here in the states we tend to unite that group so I stand by my post.
 
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Brasil - Argentina? Mere child's play. Put that up against a Serbia-Croatia Davis Cup tie on the table....

"Now THAT's entertainment!"
 
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jg153040

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People should really pay attention in school. If they did, this stuff wouldn't happen.

Evolution. There are no races, they are just different skin colors. That is not a different species.

Racism not that it's only stupid, it's totally scientifically unsound.
 

BlueB

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Brasil - Argentina? Mere child's play. Put that up against a Serbia-Croatia Davis Cup tie on the table....
It seems that it was an extremely civilized tie. Players claim they had good time and crowd was very respectful and supportive of the visiting team too.
 

pmerk34

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People should really pay attention in school. If they did, this stuff wouldn't happen.

Evolution. There are no races, they are just different skin colors. That is not a different species.

Racism not that it's only stupid, it's totally scientifically unsound.

Quoted for truth. Except the evolution part which is atheistic I hate god nonsense.
 
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Quoted for truth. Except the evolution part which is atheistic I hate god nonsense.

There is stupid and then there is this. Evolution is scientific fact.

No such thing as differences between races! Did you see the 100m Olympic final, did you know black people have thicker bone structure, as well as many other differences.
 

pmerk34

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There is stupid and then there is this. Evolution is scientific fact.

No such thing as differences between races! Did you see the 100m Olympic final, did you know black people have thicker bone structure, as well as many other differences.

Evolution is scientific garbage because people refuse to acknowledge our creator. God made us in his own image. We did not evolve from monkeys. It's sad anyone would worship a flawed person like Darwin. Just sad.
 

pmerk34

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There is stupid and then there is this. Evolution is scientific fact.

No such thing as differences between races! Did you see the 100m Olympic final, did you know black people have thicker bone structure, as well as many other differences.

We all come for the same genome. There is one race. The human race. Darwin is a failure. His work is in the dustbin.
 

Mainad

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We all come for the same genome. There is one race. The human race. Darwin is a failure. His work is in the dustbin.

Steady on! I think you'll find he and his work very much aren't. Nothing in Darwin's work contradicts the fact that the human race is one single species!
 

donquijote

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Evolution is scientific garbage because people refuse to acknowledge our creator. God made us in his own image. We did not evolve from monkeys. It's sad anyone would worship a flawed person like Darwin. Just sad.

Darwin looks smarter than god to me when I compare their books. :)
 

Alien

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Joao Souza has denied having made such accusations, subject should be dropped any minute.

As for denying Darwin... maybe the Earth is flat and it was created 6000 years ago...
 

Crisstti

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People should really pay attention in school. If they did, this stuff wouldn't happen.

Evolution. There are no races, they are just different skin colors. That is not a different species.

Racism not that it's only stupid, it's totally scientifically unsound.

Humanity is one species, but species is not the same as race.

You have your opinion on the matter, I have mine. leave it at that.

It's not a matter of opinion. It refers to native american people.
 
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