Coconut water?

TroutSc

Semi-Pro
Any fans here? Im probably mental but feel that when i drink alot of it, im less prone to soreness/injury. Other than paying $5/Liter for it, ive grown to like it.
 

Douggo

Semi-Pro
I like the taste fairly well, and the idea that it's better for me. But the price negates all that, so I don't buy it.
 
I played a grueling match last week and tried using coconut water instead of gatorade. It actually wound up making my mouth dry and didn't seem to improve my endurance at all.

If you google it, you will find that there's no scientific evidence it works any better than plain water, although some people like John Isner swear it works well for them.

I, however, will be going to back to Gatorade and water.
 
There's no significant scientific evidence suggesting kinesio tapes work, but people still tape the **** out of themselves (for show mostly, look how hardcore I am!).

As for coconut water, I'm not buying it.
 

Talker

Hall of Fame
Any fans here? Im probably mental but feel that when i drink alot of it, im less prone to soreness/injury. Other than paying $5/Liter for it, ive grown to like it.

Don't worry about the money, they've convinced people to buy water too. :confused:
 
I love coconut water. After a long work-out or practice session, it always
makes me feel on top again.
Coconut water has a mineral composition very similar to human blood,
making it very effective as a work-out drink.
Coconut oil by the way, is also the healthiest cooking oil there is.
In countries where the majority of cooking is done with coconut oil,
there is a far lower rate of heart disease than in the west.
Up until the 1940s it was the most widely-used oil in North America,
but then the industry of vegetable oil producers started an aggressive
propaganda campaign against tropical oils which were threatening their
market.
Coconut sugar, which is made from the sap that flows when a coconut blossom
is cut off, also happens to be the healthiest sugar there is.
There is a reason why in tropical countries the coconut tree is known as the
tree of life.
 

GRANITECHIEF

Hall of Fame
Absolutely love the stuff, especially knocking fresh coconuts off the tree in the morning and drinking a whole liter before anything else.

Best sports drink by far.
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
It tastes great, but doesn't do me much good. First few times I tried it, my weight shot up in the days after. It was just water weight, but whatever sodium it has doesn't seem to agree with me.

I have a few friends who are fighters and when they are cutting to make weight, they stay well clear.

It goes down in a few days, so it's not really a big deal, but still.
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
For those needing A source that is very high in potassium (K), coconut water might be of some use. This assumes that you already have a sufficient source of sodium. Plain coconut water is normally very low in sodium (Na < 70 mg/330 ml serving) but very high in K (> 600 mg/serving). This could possibly create an imbalance if a large amount of coconut water is consumed w/o also making sure that sodium levels are adequate. But, for those ppl who already consume too much Na in the diet, this might not be a problem.

ONE did have an Active line of coconut water products that bumped up the amount of Na while decreasing the K levels somewhat. Not sure that ONE still has these products on the market tho'. Their flavored coconut waters do have a somewhat better mineral profile than their plain coconut water -- for a 250 ml serving, the Na content is 115-130 mg with a K content of 290-300 mg.
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
^ Note that the flavored coconut waters from ONE do have a bit more sugar -- 16-17 gm of sugar for a 250 mL serving compared to 11 gms of sugar for a 330 mL serving of their plain coconut water. OTOH, the flavored waters do have 160-180% DV for vitamin C compared to 0% for the plain version.

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sureshs

Bionic Poster
I love coconut water. After a long work-out or practice session, it always
makes me feel on top again.
Coconut water has a mineral composition very similar to human blood,
making it very effective as a work-out drink.
Coconut oil by the way, is also the healthiest cooking oil there is.
In countries where the majority of cooking is done with coconut oil,
there is a far lower rate of heart disease than in the west.
Up until the 1940s it was the most widely-used oil in North America,
but then the industry of vegetable oil producers started an aggressive
propaganda campaign against tropical oils which were threatening their
market.
Coconut sugar, which is made from the sap that flows when a coconut blossom
is cut off, also happens to be the healthiest sugar there is.
There is a reason why in tropical countries the coconut tree is known as the
tree of life.

I regularly eat chocolate bars made with palm sugar.

But coconut oil lends a strong smell and flavor to the dishes it is used in, and I am not a fan of that. In general, I don't like the coconut taste too much.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
^ I love the smell of MCT/coconut oil in the morning... it smells like energy!


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You have not lived with people who apply coconut oil to their hair every morning, and not smelt them later in the day when the oil smell mixes with the smell of sweat in the hair.
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
For those needing A source that is very high in potassium (K), coconut water might be of some use. This assumes that you already have a sufficient source of sodium. Plain coconut water is normally very low in sodium (Na < 70 mg/330 ml serving) but very high in K (> 600 mg/serving). This could possibly create an imbalance if a large amount of coconut water is consumed w/o also making sure that sodium levels are adequate. But, for those ppl who already consume too much Na in the diet, this might not be a problem.

ONE did have an Active line of coconut water products that bumped up the amount of Na while decreasing the K levels somewhat. Not sure that ONE still has these products on the market tho'. Their flavored coconut waters do have a somewhat better mineral profile than their plain coconut water -- for a 250 ml serving, the Na content is 115-130 mg with a K content of 290-300 mg.

Interesting stuff. I think the extra potassium must of been the problem for me.
 

OHBH

Semi-Pro
Surprised to see so many people like coconut water. I tried it and thought it tasted awful, especially when not completely ice cold. I really wanted to like it to, I could have used the extra potassium. Are there any major taste differences among the brands? What brand how you all have found to be the best tasting and why?
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Surprised to see so many people like coconut water. I tried it and thought it tasted awful, especially when not completely ice cold. I really wanted to like it to, I could have used the extra potassium. Are there any major taste differences among the brands? What brand how you all have found to be the best tasting and why?

Coconut water is sweet when it is tender. Then it tastes good when chilled. Otherwise it is bland with no taste. Slightly more ripe and it starts reeking of oil.

The canned ones are really bad tasting. Fresh green ones cut on the spot is the way to go.
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
You have not lived with people who apply coconut oil to their hair every morning, and not smelt them later in the day when the oil smell mixes with the smell of sweat in the hair.

How does that work? Is it a liquid oil? Virgin coconut oil is solid at room temp (up to 24C/76F). Hydrogenated coconut oils have higher melting points. Lauric acid, a medium chain fatty acid, is one of the reasons that coconut oil is solid at room temp. (It also contains a small amount of long chain fatty acids).

MCT oil, however is liquid at room temp -- the lauric acid and long chain fats has been removed so that MCT oils are mostly composed of caprylic (C8 ) and capric acid (C10). I suspect that the "coconut oil" that is used for the hair might be similar to this MCT oil.
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
Surprised to see so many people like coconut water. I tried it and thought it tasted awful, especially when not completely ice cold. I really wanted to like it to, I could have used the extra potassium. Are there any major taste differences among the brands? What brand how you all have found to be the best tasting and why?

Yeah, a lot of coconut waters (juices) do not taste all that great unless they are cold. (Kinda like beer in that respect). VitaCoco seems to be popular but I am not crazy about the taste of their waters at all.

ONE and Zico waters are much more to my liking. I've tried a very tasty raw coconut water from Harmless Harvest. Don't know about other canned coconut waters/juices, but I really like the offerings from Amy & Brian, particularly the one with lime.

http://amyandbriannaturals.com/CoconutJuice.html
http://www.amazon.com/Amy-Brian-Natural-Coconut-Juice/dp/B002Z95BOY

Here is a informative thread from a year ago. The talk about coconut water starts with post #30 (page 2 & 3):

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=414762&page=2
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
How does that work? Is it a liquid oil? Virgin coconut oil is solid at room temp (up to 24C/76F). Hydrogenated coconut oils have higher melting points. Lauric acid, a medium chain fatty acid, is one of the reasons that coconut oil is solid at room temp. (It also contains a small amount of long chain fatty acids).

MCT oil, however is liquid at room temp -- the lauric acid and long chain fats has been removed so that MCT oils are mostly composed of caprylic (C8 ) and capric acid (C10). I suspect that the "coconut oil" that is used for the hair might be similar to this MCT oil.

The guy I know who used it said that it became semi-solid when it was cold but was liquid when it was warmer
 

makinao

Rookie
I don't know how good it is for rehydration, but coconut water is a great diuretic. One medical study (http://coconutoilorganic.com.au/usi...se/kidney-stones-melt-away-with-coconut-water) in my country (Philippines) has shown that coconut water (just the water, excluding the meat) has a clensing effect on kidneys, and helps prevent and dissolve kidney stones. I take it occasionally when I'm OK, and often when I have an "active" stone. I buy it fresh from street vendors, straight from the coconut, for less than US$2 a liter. It ferments rather fast though. So I drink it immediately.
 
I don't know how good it is for rehydration, but coconut water is a great diuretic. One medical study (http://coconutoilorganic.com.au/usi...se/kidney-stones-melt-away-with-coconut-water) in my country (Philippines) has shown that coconut water (just the water, excluding the meat) has a clensing effect on kidneys, and helps prevent and dissolve kidney stones. I take it occasionally when I'm OK, and often when I have an "active" stone. I buy it fresh from street vendors, straight from the coconut, for less than US$2 a liter. It ferments rather fast though. So I drink it immediately.

I'm jealous, fresh coconut is awesome. Had them as a kid back in the "old country".
 

onehandbh

G.O.A.T.

Agreed! Love fresh coconut juice. Most people in the US may not be aware
that there are actually different types of coconuts. The sweeter kind is
usually the one that is imported to the US.

Instead of buying boxed/packaged coconut juice, I recommend buying
the imported whole coconuts in the US grocery stores and cutting it open
yourself. 99 Ranch market in the LA area has them sometimes.

I prefer fresh ones in southeast Asia though...
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
^ Whole Foods and other stores also carry coconuts.

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I provided a lot more about coconut varieties and nutrients in this thread:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?p=6367535#post6367535
 
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