Daniel Koellerer: The ATP has destroyed my life. The Fab 4 wouldn't be disqualified

Jaitock1991

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I get his point. There is no way in hell that any of the big stars would be punished the way he was(even though they certainly should imo). So going by that, the whole ATP is hypocratic. I think this is a rather big problem(favouring of the biggest stars) that should be talked about a lot more than it is.

However, that does not mean that the way he represented himself and tennis in general is okay. In fact, he fully deserved the punishment he got, and he's got nobody to blame but himself.
 
mellowyellow

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Jaitock1991 said:
I get his point. There is no way in hell that any of the big stars would be punished the way he was(even though they certainly should imo). So going by that, the whole ATP is hypocratic. I think this is a rather big problem(favouring of the biggest stars) that should be talked about a lot more than it is.

However, that does not mean that the way he represented himself and tennis in general is okay. In fact, he fully deserved the punishment he got, and he's got nobody to blame but himself.
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Seems funny to be banned but for the fine to be lifted... Then again it's funny too that a POS like Odesnik was allowed to play again, that he "cooperated" but nobody knows in what capacity.


Don't get me wrong, the guy was a real character, not compassionate at all for a classless loser.
 
Jaitock1991

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mellowyellow said:
Seems funny to be banned but for the fine to be lifted... Then again it's funny too that a POS like Odesnik was allowed to play again, that he "cooperated" but nobody knows in what capacity.


Don't get me wrong, the guy was a real character, not compassionate at all for a classless loser.
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Yeah. Definitely a lot of stuff that doesn't make any sense..
 
nolefam_2024

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Can this guy, who I never even heard before win a slam? Preferential treatment is debatable, he will never get preference anyway :D
Sorry, won't be missed. BYE.
 
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Tennis_Hands

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Crazy Danny is better at what he does than most (if not all) people on this forum.

And many people that criticize him are in awe of people that do much worse things for a living, I am sure.

Just for some perspective.

:cool:
 
Mainad

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britbox said:
Reproduced and Translated from Italian with the kind permission of author Giacomo Marchetti.

Daniel Koellerer, banned for match fixing says the Fab 4 (Djokovic, Federer, Nadal, Murray) would always be covered up of wrong doing and he didn't get fair treatment.

Daniel Koellerer: The ATP has destroyed my life. The Fab Four would never be disqualified.
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Sounds like a good thing that his daughter will never be able to see him play. But will he be able to stop her from seeing all those vids of him in action? ;)
 
mellowyellow

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Tennis_Hands said:
If a "racist piece of ****" states a fact is it less true?

:cool:
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No, and one could argue they promoted an environment where covering up, lying and so forth for the sake of fame fortune and promotion of the sport are at all cost. Question, do you expect the children of drug addicts to be drug free as they grow up? For all of their investigation their is still no transparency on their part...
 
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Chadillac

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Agassi really hurt the ATP's reputation. Because of him i believe they cover up for top players.

How much money changed hands when djok got an eye infection mid match?
 
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every7

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augustobt said:
Yes, it does. He should've been banned for a long time before being caught by match-fixing.
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newpball said:
He rigged three matches, what do you mean fair treatment?
He got what he deserved!

:rolleyes:
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Exactly! This guy is the ultimate pariah and constantly endangered the reputation of the game with his presence.

He actually endangered himself numerous times. Violence is never right but it is a miracle he was never seriously assaulted given his involvement with match-fixing figures or other players who he deliberately stirred, villified or cheated against.
 
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Dave1982

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I read a similar article on Australian news site and in all honesty it just came across as sour grapes and a pretty stupid thing for him to do by naming individual players who the ATP would never come down as hard on.

Without going into details of his actual case and whether evidence supported the ultimate verdict, it's a bit rich of him to make claims of ATP destroying his life, maybe something he should have considered before involving himself in illegal activities.
 
Levi_Ackerman

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Koellerer bemoaning the ATP for ruining his life is like Conrad Black bemoaning the US for ruining his life. You committed a crime. You got caught. Suck it up and stop being a *****.
 
Steve0904

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He has a point, but I'm tired of people playing that card for seemingly every issue these days. Not that long ago guys like (I believe) Tursunov and Gulbis were b.itching and moaning about Nadal and Djokovic for example not getting called for time violations. It is generally true, sure, but most of all I'm just tired of people complaining, especially when they play this card. The more people that come out with the same argument the more it just sounds like sour grapes to me.

Original material would be nice every once in a while.
 
Levi_Ackerman

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After Sharapova's announcement, I'm starting to think Koellerer may have a point. I'm alluding to Sharapova's recent announcement. What are the odds that the organisers didn't know about that? In fact, it would not be a stretch to think this announcement was their idea; a sort of damage control.
 
antony

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Jaitock1991 said:
I get his point. There is no way in hell that any of the big stars would be punished the way he was(even though they certainly should imo). So going by that, the whole ATP is hypocratic. I think this is a rather big problem(favouring of the biggest stars) that should be talked about a lot more than it is.

However, that does not mean that the way he represented himself and tennis in general is okay. In fact, he fully deserved the punishment he got, and he's got nobody to blame but himself.
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If it was only his off-putting behavior and he wasn’t actually guilty of match fixing, then it is reprehensible that the ATP framed him for match fixing and banned him for life. I haven’t seen evidence of the match fixing. They can punish him however for behavior but it should be up front.

I’d sue for defamation if I were him. But maybe he didn’t sue because he knows the accusations are true? Who knows.
 
antony

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Rattie said:
So he match fixes, and it’s everyone else’s fault. Ok.
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That’s what the ATP said. He denies it and says 3 different times shady people offered for him to fix a match in exchange for payment, and he declined them every time. I don’t know what the ATP knows but because they haven’t made any evidence of his match fixing public, it’s hard to say Koellerer is a liar.

He may be a bunch of other things but the charge by the ATP is match fixing and I just haven’t seen the evidence.

“I am an eyesore for the ATP. They have sacrificed me to show the other players what can happen. There are protected players and players who the ATP wants to get rid of.”

““I was approached by an intermediary, once I was called into a hotel room, and once they spoke to me at dinner,” he said.

“For a game against (Nikolay) Davydenko they offered me $50,000, same thing for a game with Tipsarevic.

“Once even $100,000 to lose against Massu. I immediately refused, I have nothing to do with this.

“I was pretty stupid on the tennis court, racquets destroyed, insulting the referee. I was just undisciplined, but the scams had nothing to do with it”

 
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Hingis had such a small amount of cocaine in her system - and only a very small fraction of Gasquet's level - that she would have passed the US military drug test. It was contamination level. They still banned her for 2 years....
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antony

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thepaint19 said:
Hingis had such a small amount of cocaine in her system - and only a very small fraction of Gasquet's level - that she would have passed the US military drug test. It was contamination level. They still banned her for 2 years....
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She claims innocence too
www.espn.com

Hingis retires, says results of drug test false

Former world No. 1 Martina Hingis says she has tested positive for cocaine.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
 
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