Is this about to turn into the EZone appreciation thread?
genuine q - how far does the Ezone go back... does it have any relations with the RDiS lines?
maybe i should give the isometric head another try
Is this about to turn into the EZone appreciation thread?
There's some kind of voodoo with it. I remember feeling like I couldn't miss the sweet spot with the 97HD. Even though that head shape was different there was something oddly familiar about the swing feel and impact feel.
genuine q - how far does the Ezone go back... does it have any relations with the RDiS lines?
maybe i should give the isometric head another try
yeah, i agree the head shape can put you/me off sometimes..... i had a good go with the Dual G 97 (310) for awhile... i recall trying to up the SW and make it more HH without adding too much weight overall was challenging. i think in the end, i had to remove the trap door to save that 2 or 3g to get close to the head balance i wanted... then had a go, but didn't really gel with it. maybe i need to cut out that fb of multi and get a freshy one on itThere's some kind of voodoo with it. I remember feeling like I couldn't miss the sweet spot with the 97HD. Even though that head shape was different there was something oddly familiar about the swing feel and impact feel.
Not that long ago it was a UT smitten fest .Is this about to turn into the EZone appreciation thread?
(or the 6.1 of whichever version that was... too)Not that long ago it was a UT smitten fest .
The UT love was/is real. As is my own love for the 6.1. But exactly as @Power Player predicted, I came up against the tweeners and couldn't keep up.Not that long ago it was a UT smitten fest .
what type of the indoor surface do they have? will you be using new balls too?The UT love was/is real. As is my own love for the 6.1. But exactly as @Power Player predicted, I came up against the tweeners and couldn't keep up.
I was able to snag a court reservation at an indoor court for tonight. Of course when I made the reservation, I had to ask if they had a demo of the EZ100. It just so turns out that they do. I'll post my thoughts tonight.
Hopefully USPS gets their act together so you can do a H2H with the Extreme Tour. I had +3 day delays for sticks I had incoming recently. Ugh.I was able to snag a court reservation at an indoor court for tonight. Of course when I made the reservation, I had to ask if they had a demo of the EZ100. It just so turns out that they do. I'll post my thoughts tonight.
It's hard court. It's sad to say but I've never played on grass or clay. I'm especially sad about the clay part.what type of the indoor surface do they have? will you be using new balls too?
I know. I thought it was supposed to arrive yesterday but then I saw the update. I was hoping to hit with it tonight.Hopefully USPS gets their act together so you can do a H2H with the Extreme Tour. I had +3 day delays for sticks I had incoming recently. Ugh.
cool - have fun and look forward to your thoughts. some indoor courts can be faster, especially with new balls.... lolIt's hard court. It's sad to say but I've never played on grass or clay. I'm especially sad about the clay part.
And there are always a few fresh cans in my bag.
Is this about to turn into the EZone appreciation thread?
The UT love was/is real. As is my own love for the 6.1. But exactly as @Power Player predicted, I came up against the tweeners and couldn't keep up.
I was able to snag a court reservation at an indoor court for tonight. Of course when I made the reservation, I had to ask if they had a demo of the EZ100. It just so turns out that they do. I'll post my thoughts tonight.
maybe @ryushen21 just need to bring one of these things with him tonight...I hope its strung up decently. Folks in here have been demoing the frame with tight multi and syn gut due to crappy demo string jobs. I personally think its a full poly racquet.
I’d suggest you stick to your usual string setup for now, in order to change just 1 variable at a time.I just demo'd and bought a Gravity Pro, I thought i'd love the Tour model since I was looking for something lighter than my 11.8 oz Babolat. The Tour felt squishy but I loved the teardrop shape so I tried a Pro. It was beautiful.
What are everyones favorite strings with it?
my last deep dive into strings was 8 or 9 years ago when I was looking for more depth. any recs?
I asked about string but the guy didn't know for sure. All he said was that it was green. My guess is that it's probably Yonex PTP.I hope its strung up decently. Folks in here have been demoing the frame with tight multi and syn gut due to crappy demo string jobs. I personally think its a full poly racquet.
YPTP is yellow (or recently blue). Most popular green is Hyper-G, practically every club is linked with Solinco one way or another. And I think Hyper-G plays better anyway so you should be ok. Take a pic of the racquet once you are there and share. I'm sure we'd be able to identify it.I asked about string but the guy didn't know for sure. All he said was that it was green. My guess is that it's probably Yonex PTP.
Umm, this implies that I know how to string. I'm still a complete noob at it.
It's entirely possible that I'm wrong. Especially as I didn't know the color of PTP.YPTP is yellow (or recently blue). Most popular green is Hyper-G, practically every club is linked with Solinco one way or another. And I think Hyper-G plays better anyway.
I playtested the NGDY (Hyper-G) directly for Solinco before it first came out and I too did not think it would gain the kind of traction it has. It is amazing how popular it has gotten. It is a great string too no doubt.It's entirely possible that I'm wrong. Especially as I didn't know the color of PTP.
And you're not wrong about Solinco. They are everywhere. I remember thinking that they wouldn't be around for long when they first came out.
I remember using Tour Bite before my hiatus. It was a good string but definitely stiff. Then I tried TB Soft when I came back. I've been wondering if I owe it another shot because I absolutely hated the racquet it was in (Graphene Touch Prestige MP). But I also really like Hyper G. The 17g hasn't let me down in any racquet I've put it in.I playtested the NGDY (Hyper-G) when it first came out and I too did not think it would gain the kind of traction it has. It is amazing how popular it has gotten. It is a great string too no doubt.
I’d suggest you stick to your usual string setup for now, in order to change just 1 variable at a time.
The Gravity Pro is really plush, and you might need to bring the tension up a bit or go with a slightly firmer string.
I’ve tried mostly softer polys on it as I got it while recovering from golfer‘s elbow - I remember trying gut/poly and poly/gut (both too powerful and with not enough spin), Silverstring (felt great— not a lot of weaknesses, but no outstanding qualities other than comfort; I almost stuck with it), YPTP (too plasticky on this frame), Pro Line Evo (less plasticky than YPTP, but not pleasant as well) and a few more that I can’t remember right now.
I ended up with Element - really soft, but does not sacrifice feel and pockets the ball well. I could probably play with Alu again or maybe even something stiffer, but Element has grown on me to the point I don’t really want to try other strings (although I occasionally do, while fooling around with other frames).
I asked about string but the guy didn't know for sure. All he said was that it was green. My guess is that it's probably Yonex PTP.
I just demo'd and bought a Gravity Pro, I thought i'd love the Tour model since I was looking for something lighter than my 11.8 oz Babolat. The Tour felt squishy but I loved the teardrop shape so I tried a Pro. It was beautiful.
What are everyones favorite strings with it?
my last deep dive into strings was 8 or 9 years ago when I was looking for more depth. any recs?
Is this about to turn into the EZone appreciation thread?
did you think there was a difference in spin from sniper vs alpha? alpha does have a little bit more pop...You could potentially enjoy Grapplesnake's Alpha - extremely comfortable, great feel & touch yet still good control.
Chick in the back knows what's up. She's wall balling with the Extreme Tour while these goons flex on each other.It seems we've reached a point of emerging factions. Ezones and Babs in one corner, Ultras and Igas in another. Same dream. Different vibes. Jets vs Sharks.
And I'm the one stuck in the middle. Loving the feel of the UT but knowing I'll play better and win more with the EZone. Does that make my 6.1s some kind of night stick that I use to bludgeon people when things go horribly wrong?It seems we've reached a point of emerging factions. Ezones and Babs in one corner, Ultras and Igas in another. Same dream. Different vibes. Jets vs Sharks.
did you think there was a difference in spin from sniper vs alpha? alpha does have a little bit more pop...
It seems we've reached a point of emerging factions. Ezones and Babs in one corner, Ultras and Igas in another. Same dream. Different vibes. Jets vs Sharks.
I’m still looking for that unicorn with magical feel combined with Babolat ball bulldozing. Closest so far has been the BP 18x20. I’ve never hit the UT but I assume it feels even sweeter potentially at the expense of some plow and ease of use. Just to manage your expectations the ET probably will not feel as good as the UT but I think it’s a good gateway into the world of tween.And I'm the one stuck in the middle. Loving the feel of the UT but knowing I'll play better and win more with the EZone. Does that make my 6.1s some kind of night stick that I use to bludgeon people when things go horribly wrong?
2nd round of demos is coming today so I should be able to hit with them if it’s not so damn windy. Traded in the ezone 100 with crappy strings for the new extreme mp which was strung with lynx tour. What a difference the strings make! Extreme mp has now taken the lead from the pure strike. These new Head 360+ racquets are all really really good! Extreme was very comfortable, had lots of spin and easy power I was expecting the ezone to have. It helped that I played really well that day too. Really want to get my hands on the Speed mp next. I have a feeling it will be between the extreme, speed and iga. And then in January the new radical will show up and mess everything up again.
I’m still looking for that unicorn with magical feel combined with Babolat ball bulldozing. Closest so far has been the BP 18x20. I’ve never hit the UT but I assume it feels even sweeter potentially at the expense of some plow and ease of use. Just to manage your expectations the ET probably will not feel as good as the UT but I think it’s a good gateway into the world of tween.
100%. To me the Ezone has always been an APD emulator with a more flexible throat (for the 98) and additional dampening tech which explains the lower-powered response and additional mutedness. I had to give the 98 another try so that’s why I picked up some 98Ls to weight up. Could be great or could be a flop, we shall see. Good to know I can always pickup a 100 and play as is.Magical feeling tweeners don't really exist, I think the closest for me is what Yonex has done.
Really want to get my hands on the Speed mp next.
I’m still looking for that unicorn with magical feel combined with Babolat ball bulldozing.
i have a bab, UT and an Ezone. They are different but the same, and live harmoniously together in my bag. Global peace is still possible.
I’m still looking for that unicorn with magical feel combined with Babolat ball bulldozing. Closest so far has been the BP 18x20. I’ve never hit the UT but I assume it feels even sweeter potentially at the expense of some plow and ease of use. Just to manage your expectations the ET probably will not feel as good as the UT but I think it’s a good gateway into the world of tween.
100%. To me the Ezone has always been an APD emulator with a more flexible throat (for the 98) and additional dampening tech which explains the lower-powered response and additional mutedness. I had to give the 98 another try so that’s why I picked up some 98Ls to weight up. Could be great or could be a flop, we shall see. Good to know I can always pickup a 100 and play as is.
Dude. This is what is keeping me up at night. I want to target a 300 gram unstrung weight so that means adding roughly 15 grams. Depending on how I skin the cat I could do something crazy like 32.7cm/308SW or more sensible like 32cm/295SW (both unstrung). To your point I will probably start with a roughly 320 strung SW to get a sense of the power and stability without blurring things with too much weight initially.Biggest thing may be that you will want the SW a bit lower than usual because these frames seem to deliver the same punch as a frame with SW 10 points higher.
BP 18x20 does have way more power/plow compared to the UT and in a sweet feeling racquet to bootI’m still looking for that unicorn with magical feel combined with Babolat ball bulldozing. Closest so far has been the BP 18x20. I’ve never hit the UT but I assume it feels even sweeter potentially at the expense of some plow and ease of use. Just to manage your expectations the ET probably will not feel as good as the UT but I think it’s a good gateway into the world of tween.
Dude. This is what is keeping me up at night. I want to target a 300 gram unstrung weight so that means adding roughly 15 grams. Depending on how I skin the cat I could do something crazy like 32.7cm/308SW or more sensible like 32cm/295SW (both unstrung). To your point I will probably start with a roughly 320 strung SW to get a sense of the power and stability without blurring things with too much weight initially.
I always assumed I wouldn't enjoy clay due to being in my 20s and locally everyone called it "the old guys courts" in my town. In reality, it was "old guys" because it's a country club and people in a stable career is who can afford to play there. My USTA team that referred to them as that was a group from 19-27 with me being the elder.It's hard court. It's sad to say but I've never played on grass or clay. I'm especially sad about the clay part.
And there are always a few fresh cans in my bag.
Your strike is 98 16x19 right? Or is it Strike 100?ILL finally be able to get some tennis in tonight.
ill switch bet my pa and strike
full power and full spin.. vs med power full control
Yes. 16 19 98 great frame. i have not tried the 100 gen 3. but the gen 2 100 felt awfulYour strike is 98 16x19 right? Or is it Strike 100?
Gen 3 100 is amazing, can't speak for gen 2 but I like gen 3 100 even more than 98 16x19..Yes. 16 19 98 great frame. i have not tried the 100 gen 3. but the gen 2 100 felt awful
i cant imagine its that much diff than the gen 2. which to me feels odd. tin like with no stability but hey you never knowGen 3 100 is amazing, can't speak for gen 2 but I like gen 3 100 even more than 98 16x19..
For me difference was similar that you had between gen 2 98 16x19 (P17) vs current 98 16x19. Gen 2 feels crisper and less muted..i cant imagine its that much diff than the gen 2. which to me feels odd. tin like with no stability but hey you never know
i hear. i like the gen 3 much better. more power. better feel . i had the gen 2. as soon as i tried the gen 3 i got rid of itFor me difference was similar that you had between gen 2 98 16x19 (P17) vs current 98 16x19. Gen 2 feels crisper and less muted..