Djokovic Clinches Year-End No. 1 In FedEx ATP Rankings; Equals Sampras' Record Of Six Year-End No. 1 Finishes

demrle

Professional
I just heard Mark Patchey saying that Djokovic 6 No1 is greater achievement than Sampras 6 No1 due to level of competition. He claimed that Djokovic achieved those 6 No1 in the toughest era ever.
Well, duh... :p
 

Steffi-forever

Hall of Fame
Actually Agassi was no1 for most of the 1995 and best player that year until injury prevented him to play last few tournaments which in turn allowed Pete to leapfrog him

Still pretty good stuff from Pete

1998 was pretty weak as well for Sampras. Only 4 titles in 22 tournaments played.
 

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
we are waiting for the ITF's decision on the ITF champ for 2020- may be nole's 7th. that would be the all-time record!
Thiem gain 180 more points at the GS tournaments than Joker.
He should earn that distinction this season unless there is something murky at the last minute and prevents what should be for the Austrian.
:D
 
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Sampras and Djokovic at the top of the leaderboard.
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
For heaven's sake it's a short year !
No way it holds the same value as a full year.
 
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Deleted member 771911

Guest
When all the stats are in, this one will have a huge asterisk.
Not comparable to what Pete did.
Good, though.
 

Milanez82

Hall of Fame
Bragging rights should be shelved for this year at least. Much of it was unplayable.
Hamilton will tie Schumacher for ye1 record in formula 1 and good chunk of season was missed plus some races were held twice at the same location(kind of like cincy/us open double) which never used to be the case
 

demrle

Professional
Bragging rights should be shelved for this year at least. Much of it was unplayable.
Wrong, due to stoopid rules Djokovic was stripped of the opportunity to defend his Wimbledon title and in all likelihood lost a couple of dozens of weeks at No.1. Bragging rights more than deserved as a consolation prize.
 

Sabratha

Banned
Wrong, due to stoopid rules Djokovic was stripped of the opportunity to defend his Wimbledon title and in all likelihood lost a couple of dozens of weeks at No.1. Bragging rights more than deserved as a consolation prize.
Who's to say he would've even won Wimbledon again this year? He barely managed it last year.
 

Sabratha

Banned
Nobody's to say that he would have won. Who would have been the first favorite to win it?
Then what's with this "he didn't get a chance to defend Wimbledon" argument? Other players on tour were robbed of the chance to win the tournament for the first time.
 

demrle

Professional
Then what's with this "he didn't get a chance to defend Wimbledon" argument? Other players on tour were robbed of the chance to win the tournament for the first time.
You haven't answered my question, it wasn't a rhetorical one.
 

demrle

Professional
I shouldn't need to answer it as I'd be stating the obvious.
Than he's the most stripped one, no two ways about it. Nobody's saying that the other players wouldn't have had a chance, but in the absence of Federer Djokovic would have bin a heavy favorite.
 

Sabratha

Banned
Than he's the most stripped one, no two ways about it. Nobody's saying that the other players wouldn't have had a chance, but in the absence of Federer Djokovic would have bin a heavy favorite.
But based on form it wasn't a slam dunk guarantee so the "defending his title" argument shouldn't be used. Plenty of other players who would've been in with a shot.

I'd like Tsitsipas' chances if he made the second week - Zverev too.
 

demrle

Professional
But based on form it wasn't a slam dunk guarantee so the "defending his title" argument shouldn't be used. Plenty of other players who would've been in with a shot.

I'd like Tsitsipas' chances if he made the second week - Zverev too.
What are you arguing here, who said anything about a slam dunk or guaranteeing anything? But he would have been as big a favorite as you can get at a slam these days, including Nadal at RG there. It's no slam dunk but it doesn't get any closer than that. So "defending his title" argument should absolutely be used. The best player and the favorite wants to play and win another trophy and Djokovic didn't get that chance.

Tsitsipas and Zverev? Seriously? You are speculating about two guys that were last seen at Wimbledon flaming out in the first round.

You are trolling, right?
 

Sabratha

Banned
What are you arguing here, who said anything about a slam dunk or guaranteeing anything? But he would have been as big a favorite as you can get at a slam these days, including Nadal at RG there. It's no slam dunk but it doesn't get any closer than that. So "defending his title" argument should absolutely be used. The best player and the favorite wants to play and win another trophy and Djokovic didn't get that chance.

Tsitsipas and Zverev? Seriously? You are speculating about two guys that were last seen at Wimbledon flaming out in the first round.

You are trolling, right?
Are you? What form did Djokovic show in 2019 that allowed you to hold the belief he'd be as heavy a favorite as Nadal at Roland Garros?

And sure, it's speculation but you are aware young players (namely Sampras) used to flame out early at Wimbledon until one day he won the whole thing and kept winning it?
 

demrle

Professional
Are you? What form did Djokovic show in 2019 that allowed you to hold the belief he'd be as heavy a favorite as Nadal at Roland Garros?
I'm not trolling and I'm glad if you're not either.

2019 wasn't Djokovic's best at Wimbledon but he still managed to win it, against Federer in the final no less. But he is still a five time champion and in a separate tier along Federer and Nadal comparing to all the others. Federer wouldn't have been there this year which leaves Nadal as the biggest challenger to Djokovic, but still un underdog. As much of an underdog as Djokovic is to Nadal at RG. We can ride the hindsight now all we want, but Djokovic had a legitimate shot at beating Nadal in almost everyone's mind prior to that first set actually was played.

And sure, it's speculation but you are aware young players (namely Sampras) used to flame out early at Wimbledon until one day he won the whole thing and kept winning it?
Everything is possible, nobody's denying that. It's just that some things are more probable than the others.

Let me put it this way. All things being equal, had Wimbledon been played this year and had all players had the same betting odds, who do you put your money on to win it?
 
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