37 yo Novak will play 38 yo Rafa for the gold medal match on PC.
I too look forward to the wheelchair singles gold medal match.37 yo Novak will play 38 yo Rafa for the gold medal match on PC.
He does. We will still bring talking about Tsits, sinner, and med potential. That and alcaraz elbow.Paris 2024 is only 3 years away. And at 37, he has a decent shot, especially if the Next Gen slam contenders focus on slams, as they should.
If he didn't win it here against this field, then he's never going to win it. And there's no shame in that.
*Jelena Djokovic wants to know your location*
That actually is how it works. This is by far the weakest field we’ve seen at any Olympics Joker has competed in and he didn’t win. He’ll be 37 at the next Olympics and will have declined even further. There’s also no guarantee he’ll even be playing in 2024.That’s not how it works.
I agree. But he won't win. He puts too much pressure on himself at the OlympicsParis 2024 is only 3 years away. And at 37, he has a decent shot, especially if the Next Gen slam contenders focus on slams, as they should.
Yeah Olympic gold is just not meant to be. He had his bronze though and maybe another bronze to add to the collection.I agree. But he won't win. He puts too much pressure on himself at the Olympics
otoh, if he's so mentally stronk (as we know) and if that is the real/main reason (much pressure), why it's so hard for him to find a way to cope with it, especially with yoga (and smth like that stuff) which only helping,I agree. But he won't win. He puts too much pressure on himself at the Olympics
He’s very mentally strong but not at the Olympics. It’s just an event where he struggles to contain his emotions more than anywhere else. I think it means too much to him. When you want something so badly it can be even harder to win.otoh, if he's so mentally stronk (as we know) and if that is the real/main reason (much pressure), why it's so hard for him to find a way to cope with it, especially with yoga (and smth like that stuff) which only helping,
agree about it wasn't too surprising, considering he played 3 days back-to-back (amazing schedule isn't it lol), plus his overall accumulated tiredness after all those huge wins this year, (considering his age too), plus known issues vs zverev before in bo3 format, all things combined and here we go, (sooner or later collapse shoulda happened)He’s very mentally strong but not at the Olympics. It’s just an event where he struggles to contain his emotions more than anywhere else. I think it means too much to him. When you want something so badly it can be even harder to win.
I mean he wants the slams so badly too but he knows he gets another chance next slam or year after and he’s already won them all. At the Olympics he’s never won it and that was realistically his last chance due to 4 year cycle. In those circumstances against a zoning Zverev especially after a gruelling few month schedule it’s not actually surprising it was too much for him mentally in to handle in end.
Yeah if you weigh up everything there was a lot going against him. The hot humid weather, no fans, not much rest, no main coaches there being goran or vadja to help him mentally, playing a top quality opponent who thrives in best of 3 matches, covid bubble, gruelling last few months, the pressure in trying to break semi final olympic curse. Even all that was too much for Djokovic. Djoko is a mental giant but all those factors caused him to blow up in the end. It’s normal as we forget sometimes he’s human and it happens but he’ll be back.agree about it wasn't too surprising, considering he played 3 days back-to-back (amazing schedule isn't it lol), plus his overall accumulated tiredness after all those huge wins this year, (considering his age too), plus known issues vs zverev before in bo3 format, all things combined and here we go, (sooner or later collapse shoulda happened)
Nice rationalizingI doubt it but no doubt djoko will probably try one last time. Maybe by then djoko will just simply target his whole season around it. Give up on the slams that year and try get that final hole in his resume haha Nah just kidding!
If he still playing by then I imagine his schedule will be cut even more though.
I feel his chance has gone but it doesn’t affect him in the big 3 GOAT debate. As all the big 3 have a hole in their resume somewhere. It’s just the way it goes that even the 3 kings can’t win it all.
Paris 2024 is only 3 years away. And at 37, he has a decent shot, especially if the Next Gen slam contenders focus on slams, as they should.
Paris 2024 is only 3 years away. And at 37, he has a decent shot, especially if the Next Gen slam contenders focus on slams, as they should.
That’s a very bold claim saying he won’t win another slam. Let’s see how things go then. One loss today won’t erode his confidence that much especially for slams.Tell us a bit more what players at the age 37 or older have won in tennis.
I think about 50 years ago someone called Rosewall won one slam.
Djokovic will be retired in 2024.
And I don't think he will win another slam until then.
That actually is how it works. This is by far the weakest field we’ve seen at any Olympics Joker has competed in and he didn’t win. He’ll be 37 at the next Olympics and will have declined even further. There’s also no guarantee he’ll even be playing in 2024.
If this field so weak, why didn’t he win. Zverev is likely winning slams, so not weaker than recent USO fields…If he didn't win it here against this field, then he's never going to win it. And there's no shame in that.
Because he didn’t play well enough to win that’s why. And Zedrot hasn’t won any schlems for a reason. He can’t maintain his level long enough to win 7 BO5 matches. And This Olympics was missing the vast majority of the top 10-20 so yes, it is weaker than recent USO’s.If this field so weak, why didn’t he win. Zverev is likely winning slams, so not weaker than recent USO fields…
There’s many things wrong with this post. First off RAFA was in terrible form in 2015-2016 and no one picked him to win the USO those years. Whereas Joker was not only the heavy favorite due to him being in great form, the current Olympic field makes the 2016 USO look like a strong era schlem. There’s also the massive caveat that the USO is played annually whereas the Olympics is play every 4 years. His next opportunity will be in 3 years. He’ll be 37 years at the time and will have declined even further. I highly doubt he’ll be playing at a high enough level to win in 2024 and he most likely won’t even be playing then.This is like saying "if Nadal didn't win against the atrocious field at USO 16 then he'll never win USO again". Or "if Federer didn't win against the atrocious field at USO 17 then he won't win another slam". Or "if Prime Djokovic failed miserably at Wimbledon 2016 in R3 against Querrey then he won't win Wimbledon ever again". Determinism isn't a thing in tennis. Wasn't terrific on the day and ran into a player that did everything right, it happens. Players are human beings, not machines with an implemented code deciding what will happen. Him losing today doesn't mean he won't be able to do better next time. Besides, what field are you talking about ? He lost to Zverev, one of the best players in the world currently, it's not like competition as a whole was the problem.
Mind you, I'm not saying he will win the gold medal in the future. What I personally think is that this ship has sailed and it will most likely remain a hole in his resume forever. But that doesn't mean this year's Olympics determines how things will go in the future.
I don't think I can watch the match tbhYeah Olympic gold is just not meant to be. He had his bronze though and maybe another bronze to add to the collection.
It’s on a bit too early for me. Yeah it’s difficult to get motivated for it but would be cool if he won to end the olympics on a high. We will see though.I don't think I can watch the match tbh
Its the opposite.Paris 2024 is only 3 years away. And at 37, he has a decent shot, especially if the Next Gen slam contenders focus on slams, as they should.
Besides Nadal who would have strengthened the field? Give Zverev some credit.Because he didn’t play well enough to win that’s why. And Zedrot hasn’t won any schlems for a reason. He can’t maintain his level long enough to win 7 BO5 matches. And This Olympics was missing the vast majority of the top 10-20 so yes, it is weaker than recent USO’s.
I have given Zedrot credit, his level was higher than Joker’s in this match. But just because he won here and has a good chance to win gold doesn’t mean he’ll win schlems anytime soon. BO5 is a whole other ball game. He hasn’t beaten a single top 10 opponent in a schlem yet.Besides Nadal who would have strengthened the field? Give Zverev some credit.
Had he won a couple of extra points last year against Thiem he would be defending USO champ and near co-favorite.I have given Zedrot credit, his level was higher than Joker’s in this match. But just because he won here and has a good chance to win gold doesn’t mean he’ll win schlems anytime soon. BO5 is a whole other ball game. He hasn’t beaten a single top 10 opponent in a schlem yet.
Thats not saying a whole lot though since Timmy played like a MUG for the first 2 sets. Then Zedrot played like a MUG in sets 3-4. Then they both played like MUGS in the 5th. It basically turned into a game of who could out choke the other and Zedrot won...er lost I should beat. It’s no wonder that the only schlem anyone from the #LostGen or #NextGen won the massively declined Big 3 were AWOL. Fedal didn’t play and Joker was DQ’d after pegging Karen in the throat.Had he won a couple of extra points last year against Thiem he would be defending USO champ and near co-favorite.
I agree with your main objection but believe a zoning Zverev can beat anyone on the right day.
TTW: come for the tennis, stay for the laughsFor sure. The majority of people on here are saying he'll never win one which naturally means he will. I remember when he lost to Wawrinka in French Open and everyone including his own fans were saying he'll never win the French Open again. He won it the very next year and won it again this year and got to the later stages in other years, which gave himself the opportunity.
So basically whatever the majority is saying on here, the exact opposite is bound to happen lmao.
^^^^If he didn't win it here against this field, then he's never going to win it. And there's no shame in that.
I thought he'd be retired in 2018.Tell us a bit more what players at the age 37 or older have won in tennis.
I think about 50 years ago someone called Rosewall won one slam.
Djokovic will be retired in 2024.
And I don't think he will win another slam until then.
It was an ugly 5th set, no doubt. I think Zverev’s level was very good first two sets but he definitely couldn’t sustain. Tsitsipas had same problem at FO this year.Thats not saying a whole lot though since Timmy played like a MUG for the first 2 sets. Then Zedrot played like a MUG in sets 3-4. Then they both played like MUGS in the 5th. It basically turned into a game of who could out choke the other and Zedrot won...er lost I should beat. It’s no wonder that the only schlem anyone from the #LostGen or #NextGen won the massively declined Big 3 were AWOL. Fedal didn’t play and Joker was DQ’d after pegging Karen in the throat.
Zedrot can beat anyone on his day...in BO3.
Yeah, give it up. He's not winning an OGM at 37. It's as inane as Fed fans thinking Roger would have had a chance at the Tokyo Olympics this year. Ain't happening.I too look forward to the wheelchair singles gold medal match.
Less chance. When you have a grand slam courts in the city, why go for Bercy.Maybe if they were playing it at Bercy...
Why the hell would he still be playing tennis in 3 years? He's broken basically every record worth breaking. If he hasn't broken the slam one within 3 years it's safe to say that he'll have fallen to a level that likely won't be capable of producing gold.