Djokovic has one more shot at Olympic Gold

The Blond Blur

G.O.A.T.
If he didn't win it here against this field, then he's never going to win it. And there's no shame in that.

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I doubt it but no doubt djoko will probably try one last time. Maybe by then djoko will just simply target his whole season around it. Give up on the slams that year and try get that final hole in his resume haha :p Nah just kidding!

If he still playing by then I imagine his schedule will be cut even more though.

I feel his chance has gone but it doesn’t affect him in the big 3 GOAT debate. As all the big 3 have a hole in their resume somewhere. It’s just the way it goes that even the 3 kings can’t win it all.
 

Lleytonstation

Talk Tennis Guru
Paris 2024 is only 3 years away. And at 37, he has a decent shot, especially if the Next Gen slam contenders focus on slams, as they should.
He does. We will still bring talking about Tsits, sinner, and med potential. That and alcaraz elbow.
 

The Blond Blur

G.O.A.T.
That’s not how it works.
That actually is how it works. This is by far the weakest field we’ve seen at any Olympics Joker has competed in and he didn’t win. He’ll be 37 at the next Olympics and will have declined even further. There’s also no guarantee he’ll even be playing in 2024.
 

ibbi

G.O.A.T.
Maybe if they were playing it at Bercy...

Why the hell would he still be playing tennis in 3 years? He's broken basically every record worth breaking. If he hasn't broken the slam one within 3 years it's safe to say that he'll have fallen to a level that likely won't be capable of producing gold.
 

alexio

G.O.A.T.
I agree. But he won't win. He puts too much pressure on himself at the Olympics
otoh, if he's so mentally stronk (as we know) and if that is the real/main reason (much pressure), why it's so hard for him to find a way to cope with it, especially with yoga (and smth like that stuff) which only helping,:unsure:
 
otoh, if he's so mentally stronk (as we know) and if that is the real/main reason (much pressure), why it's so hard for him to find a way to cope with it, especially with yoga (and smth like that stuff) which only helping,:unsure:
He’s very mentally strong but not at the Olympics. It’s just an event where he struggles to contain his emotions more than anywhere else. I think it means too much to him. When you want something so badly it can be even harder to win.

I mean he wants the slams so badly too but he knows he gets another chance next slam or year after and he’s already won them all. At the Olympics he’s never won it and that was realistically his last chance due to 4 year cycle. In those circumstances against a zoning Zverev especially after a gruelling few month schedule it’s not actually surprising it was too much for him mentally in to handle in end.
 

alexio

G.O.A.T.
He’s very mentally strong but not at the Olympics. It’s just an event where he struggles to contain his emotions more than anywhere else. I think it means too much to him. When you want something so badly it can be even harder to win.

I mean he wants the slams so badly too but he knows he gets another chance next slam or year after and he’s already won them all. At the Olympics he’s never won it and that was realistically his last chance due to 4 year cycle. In those circumstances against a zoning Zverev especially after a gruelling few month schedule it’s not actually surprising it was too much for him mentally in to handle in end.
agree about it wasn't too surprising, considering he played 3 days back-to-back (amazing schedule isn't it lol), plus his overall accumulated tiredness after all those huge wins this year, (considering his age too), plus known issues vs zverev before in bo3 format, all things combined and here we go, (sooner or later collapse shoulda happened)
 
agree about it wasn't too surprising, considering he played 3 days back-to-back (amazing schedule isn't it lol), plus his overall accumulated tiredness after all those huge wins this year, (considering his age too), plus known issues vs zverev before in bo3 format, all things combined and here we go, (sooner or later collapse shoulda happened)
Yeah if you weigh up everything there was a lot going against him. The hot humid weather, no fans, not much rest, no main coaches there being goran or vadja to help him mentally, playing a top quality opponent who thrives in best of 3 matches, covid bubble, gruelling last few months, the pressure in trying to break semi final olympic curse. Even all that was too much for Djokovic. Djoko is a mental giant but all those factors caused him to blow up in the end. It’s normal as we forget sometimes he’s human and it happens but he’ll be back.

His 2021 season has been a dream and while this is a setback it’s not the end of the world and he still fighting for a CYGS. There’s plenty of goals left but even if he doesn’t win the us open it’s been one of his greatest years and the year he tied Fedal in slams. Then he’d have plenty to fight for after us open for rest of 2021 and into 2022. The fact he’s right in the slam race I feel will help him get over this loss better than he did in the other Olympic years.
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
I doubt it but no doubt djoko will probably try one last time. Maybe by then djoko will just simply target his whole season around it. Give up on the slams that year and try get that final hole in his resume haha :p Nah just kidding!

If he still playing by then I imagine his schedule will be cut even more though.

I feel his chance has gone but it doesn’t affect him in the big 3 GOAT debate. As all the big 3 have a hole in their resume somewhere. It’s just the way it goes that even the 3 kings can’t win it all.
Nice rationalizing
 

R. Schweikart

Professional
Paris 2024 is only 3 years away. And at 37, he has a decent shot, especially if the Next Gen slam contenders focus on slams, as they should.

Tell us a bit more what players at the age 37 or older have won in tennis.
I think about 50 years ago someone called Rosewall won one slam.

Djokovic will be retired in 2024.
And I don't think he will win another slam until then.
 
Tell us a bit more what players at the age 37 or older have won in tennis.
I think about 50 years ago someone called Rosewall won one slam.

Djokovic will be retired in 2024.
And I don't think he will win another slam until then.
That’s a very bold claim saying he won’t win another slam. Let’s see how things go then. One loss today won’t erode his confidence that much especially for slams.
 
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That actually is how it works. This is by far the weakest field we’ve seen at any Olympics Joker has competed in and he didn’t win. He’ll be 37 at the next Olympics and will have declined even further. There’s also no guarantee he’ll even be playing in 2024.

This is like saying "if Nadal didn't win against the atrocious field at USO 16 then he'll never win USO again". Or "if Federer didn't win against the atrocious field at USO 17 then he won't win another slam". Or "if Prime Djokovic failed miserably at Wimbledon 2016 in R3 against Querrey then he won't win Wimbledon ever again". Determinism isn't a thing in tennis. Wasn't terrific on the day and ran into a player that did everything right, it happens. Players are human beings, not machines with an implemented code deciding what will happen. Him losing today doesn't mean he won't be able to do better next time. Besides, what field are you talking about ? He lost to Zverev, one of the best players in the world currently, it's not like competition as a whole was the problem.

Mind you, I'm not saying he will win the gold medal in the future. What I personally think is that this ship has sailed and it will most likely remain a hole in his resume forever. But that doesn't mean this year's Olympics determines how things will go in the future.
 

The Blond Blur

G.O.A.T.
If this field so weak, why didn’t he win. Zverev is likely winning slams, so not weaker than recent USO fields…
Because he didn’t play well enough to win that’s why. And Zedrot hasn’t won any schlems for a reason. He can’t maintain his level long enough to win 7 BO5 matches. And This Olympics was missing the vast majority of the top 10-20 so yes, it is weaker than recent USO’s.
 

The Blond Blur

G.O.A.T.
This is like saying "if Nadal didn't win against the atrocious field at USO 16 then he'll never win USO again". Or "if Federer didn't win against the atrocious field at USO 17 then he won't win another slam". Or "if Prime Djokovic failed miserably at Wimbledon 2016 in R3 against Querrey then he won't win Wimbledon ever again". Determinism isn't a thing in tennis. Wasn't terrific on the day and ran into a player that did everything right, it happens. Players are human beings, not machines with an implemented code deciding what will happen. Him losing today doesn't mean he won't be able to do better next time. Besides, what field are you talking about ? He lost to Zverev, one of the best players in the world currently, it's not like competition as a whole was the problem.

Mind you, I'm not saying he will win the gold medal in the future. What I personally think is that this ship has sailed and it will most likely remain a hole in his resume forever. But that doesn't mean this year's Olympics determines how things will go in the future.
There’s many things wrong with this post. First off RAFA was in terrible form in 2015-2016 and no one picked him to win the USO those years. Whereas Joker was not only the heavy favorite due to him being in great form, the current Olympic field makes the 2016 USO look like a strong era schlem. There’s also the massive caveat that the USO is played annually whereas the Olympics is play every 4 years. His next opportunity will be in 3 years. He’ll be 37 years at the time and will have declined even further. I highly doubt he’ll be playing at a high enough level to win in 2024 and he most likely won’t even be playing then.
 
I don't think I can watch the match tbh
It’s on a bit too early for me. Yeah it’s difficult to get motivated for it but would be cool if he won to end the olympics on a high. We will see though.

The main thing though is he doesn’t get a daft injury and gets out of their fine and then rests up. The guy definitely needs a rest after tomorrow. He’s been non stop since Rome really.
 
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Paris 2024 is only 3 years away. And at 37, he has a decent shot, especially if the Next Gen slam contenders focus on slams, as they should.
Its the opposite.
Next Gens focus on best-of-3-sets, because they know Djokovic is most vulnerable in best-of-3-sets.
So the Olympics is seen as a golden opportunity for Zverev and others, while the slams are considered virtually impossible to win.
Also, most of the best young players in the world prefer clay, making 2024 the most important Olympics of their lives.
Even big-serving Berrettini prefers clay over every other surface.
 

Nadalgaenger

G.O.A.T.
Because he didn’t play well enough to win that’s why. And Zedrot hasn’t won any schlems for a reason. He can’t maintain his level long enough to win 7 BO5 matches. And This Olympics was missing the vast majority of the top 10-20 so yes, it is weaker than recent USO’s.
Besides Nadal who would have strengthened the field? Give Zverev some credit.
 

The Blond Blur

G.O.A.T.
Besides Nadal who would have strengthened the field? Give Zverev some credit.
I have given Zedrot credit, his level was higher than Joker’s in this match. But just because he won here and has a good chance to win gold doesn’t mean he’ll win schlems anytime soon. BO5 is a whole other ball game. He hasn’t beaten a single top 10 opponent in a schlem yet.
 

Clay lover

Legend
Man who would've thought this is the only title which will probably elude him. The field is abysmal and he still finds a way to lose
 

Nadalgaenger

G.O.A.T.
I have given Zedrot credit, his level was higher than Joker’s in this match. But just because he won here and has a good chance to win gold doesn’t mean he’ll win schlems anytime soon. BO5 is a whole other ball game. He hasn’t beaten a single top 10 opponent in a schlem yet.
Had he won a couple of extra points last year against Thiem he would be defending USO champ and near co-favorite.
I agree with your main objection but believe a zoning Zverev can beat anyone on the right day.
 

killerboss

Professional
For sure. The majority of people on here are saying he'll never win one which naturally means he will. I remember when he lost to Wawrinka in French Open and everyone including his own fans were saying he'll never win the French Open again. He won it the very next year and won it again this year and got to the later stages in other years, which gave himself the opportunity.

So basically whatever the majority is saying on here, the exact opposite is bound to happen lmao.
 
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The Blond Blur

G.O.A.T.
Had he won a couple of extra points last year against Thiem he would be defending USO champ and near co-favorite.
I agree with your main objection but believe a zoning Zverev can beat anyone on the right day.
Thats not saying a whole lot though since Timmy played like a MUG for the first 2 sets. Then Zedrot played like a MUG in sets 3-4. Then they both played like MUGS in the 5th. It basically turned into a game of who could out choke the other and Zedrot won...er lost I should beat. It’s no wonder that the only schlem anyone from the #LostGen or #NextGen won the massively declined Big 3 were AWOL. Fedal didn’t play and Joker was DQ’d after pegging Karen in the throat.

Zedrot can beat anyone on his day...in BO3.
 
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fafa

Semi-Pro
Age is just a number. At 41 he'll finally win the gold medal in Los Angeles 2028. He'll be the only player with 4 medals, 3 bronze and 1 gold.
 

GabeT

G.O.A.T.
For sure. The majority of people on here are saying he'll never win one which naturally means he will. I remember when he lost to Wawrinka in French Open and everyone including his own fans were saying he'll never win the French Open again. He won it the very next year and won it again this year and got to the later stages in other years, which gave himself the opportunity.

So basically whatever the majority is saying on here, the exact opposite is bound to happen lmao.
TTW: come for the tennis, stay for the laughs
 

King No1e

G.O.A.T.
Tell us a bit more what players at the age 37 or older have won in tennis.
I think about 50 years ago someone called Rosewall won one slam.

Djokovic will be retired in 2024.
And I don't think he will win another slam until then.
I thought he'd be retired in 2018.

Never count him out.
 
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Nadalgaenger

G.O.A.T.
Thats not saying a whole lot though since Timmy played like a MUG for the first 2 sets. Then Zedrot played like a MUG in sets 3-4. Then they both played like MUGS in the 5th. It basically turned into a game of who could out choke the other and Zedrot won...er lost I should beat. It’s no wonder that the only schlem anyone from the #LostGen or #NextGen won the massively declined Big 3 were AWOL. Fedal didn’t play and Joker was DQ’d after pegging Karen in the throat.

Zedrot can beat anyone on his day...in BO3.
It was an ugly 5th set, no doubt. I think Zverev’s level was very good first two sets but he definitely couldn’t sustain. Tsitsipas had same problem at FO this year.
 

roysid

Hall of Fame
Maybe if they were playing it at Bercy...

Why the hell would he still be playing tennis in 3 years? He's broken basically every record worth breaking. If he hasn't broken the slam one within 3 years it's safe to say that he'll have fallen to a level that likely won't be capable of producing gold.
Less chance. When you have a grand slam courts in the city, why go for Bercy.
Like london could have gone for O2 or queens in 2012 olympics but went with Wimbledon as thats much more prestigious.
99 pc Paris goes with Rolland Garros
 
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