Djokovic - Losing yet another opportunity !
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messiahrobins
Hall of Fame
Will obviously win tonight but doubthe wins thr event as conditions too slow for him. Wont surprise me if we see an american winner, and i dont rate the us players.
ChrisJR3264
Hall of Fame
I certainly don’t trust Fritz. Tiafoe has the most talent but both are not reliable players in my opinion
ChrisJR3264
Hall of Fame
Does Novak seem to be bothered by the conditions? Weather wise- it’s bothered many folks. Humidity factor?
messiahrobins
Hall of Fame
Agree but such is life in america right now an american us open winner may be a great distraction from impeachment talk etc....
messiahrobins
Hall of Fame
Its not that hot today. Next week they are saying will be brutal
ChrisJR3264
Hall of Fame
An American is not winning the men’s tourney. Fritz will choke. I like Paul but I don’t think he can make it deep.
Now maybe a finalist - if Novak drops tonight.
But the other side of the draw will be Carlos, sinner, or medvedev. And I wouldn’t put any American as a favorite to beat either of those 3
ronalditop
Hall of Fame
He's about to drop one more. Looking very bad for Nole. Very very bad.
ronalditop
Hall of Fame
Novak is not serbian anymore. Finnish.
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
Are you being serious?
Impressario
Semi-Pro
I am sure Nadal and Federer would trade this meaningless stat for a couple more lost-sets slams
If it's so meaningless, why are you so bothered?
Tennfan123
Legend
It says a lot he couldn't win one slam without dropping a set in his prime and in this weak era.
GoatNo1
Professional
what, this shocked me a lot. I think Nole won't be able to sleep because of this missed opportunity.
he doesn't know how to do anything properly:
- he won a record number of slams but lost a set in each
- he has 2 golden masters and 3 career slams, but not a single golden slam, and he barely won the channel slam
- has a record time at the top of the list, but not consecutively and not in the top 10
- has a record consecutive streak of Slam wins and Slams won, but not in the same season
- has the strongest winning streak in history, but it was interrupted by the second biggest rival
- has the most big titles in a season and a season with 3+ slams but no W% in the same season
- has the best W% in history but did not finish his career
- he has the most big titles and top 5 and 10 wins, but he played for too long
- has a positive h2h with all main rivals, but loses from rafa at RG
- he won the most big titles, but against old main rivals but also he won the most big titles, but against immature kids as his main rivals
he doesn't know how to do anything properly:
- he won a record number of slams but lost a set in each
- he has 2 golden masters and 3 career slams, but not a single golden slam, and he barely won the channel slam
- has a record time at the top of the list, but not consecutively and not in the top 10
- has a record consecutive streak of Slam wins and Slams won, but not in the same season
- has the strongest winning streak in history, but it was interrupted by the second biggest rival
- has the most big titles in a season and a season with 3+ slams but no W% in the same season
- has the best W% in history but did not finish his career
- he has the most big titles and top 5 and 10 wins, but he played for too long
- has a positive h2h with all main rivals, but loses from rafa at RG
- he won the most big titles, but against old main rivals but also he won the most big titles, but against immature kids as his main rivals
Sampras-Bruguera 1993
Legend
To be fair, Djere was GOATing there for a while. Even Fed and Nadal would have dropped a set at least if they were 36 LOL
They have 20 and above.. I am sure they like to have something special in addition.
It is not that Djokovic does not have his own records.. But this shows he has not been dominating when winning a major.
TheNachoMan
Legend
That 1 win was before Plexi too.
Irrelevant , stay on topic
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
lol, it was plenty meaningful when Rafa did it
This Djoko fan cares. It is not the end of the world as he has so many other records but this is an important one to be missing in the shelf
Fabresque
Legend
This is so irrelevant though. A slam isn’t stricken from the record because you dropped a set LOL. And im sure Fedal would trade away every single one of those slams they won without dropping a set, if they ended up with more slams than Djokovic.
It is not one or the other.
They managed to accomplish 20+ majors and win few without dropping sets
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
I looooove how people write them (not only Novak but the big 3, before it is over (note: I used to do that for all 3, but learned my lesson)).
This is not Novak's first time, in fact, almost every successful tournament he went through had one of these matches.
Also, Djere played lights out last night, and it worked well in first two sets... Most other players would have not figured out how to turn it around, come back and win. That is what makes only a few ones so strong, mentally, physically and tactically...
This is not Novak's first time, in fact, almost every successful tournament he went through had one of these matches.
Also, Djere played lights out last night, and it worked well in first two sets... Most other players would have not figured out how to turn it around, come back and win. That is what makes only a few ones so strong, mentally, physically and tactically...
Fabresque
Legend
It’s not that it’s meaningless, it’s the fact it holds less merit than other things.
An Olympic Gold Medal doesn’t hold more merit than the slam lead. Winning a slam without dropping a set doesn’t hold more merit than winning every single masters tournament.
It just doesn’t, and the reality is that while he may have some rough patches on his resume, it’s still way better than Federer and Nadal.
Way better ?? That is not true.
No Olympic gold medal
No doubles prowess
No majors without losing sets.
Lopsided resume ( 6/39 : 17/31)
Above are facts we fans have to accept
NonP
Legend
Nobody in the entire OE has managed to win a USO without dropping a set. And no OE champ but Rosewall the longevity GOAT has won it after turning 35 years of age.
The USO is the most difficult of all majors to dominate for a reason. And that's especially true for geriatrics like the current 36-year-old Djokovic. Groupies that have already penciled in his 4th USO or at least Djoker vs. Carlitos have no clue what they're talking about.
Frankly it does suggest that his peak isn't as high as Borg's or Fraud's (or Bull's on dirt, obviously), given that his percentage game is virtually designed to make the most out of his opponents' errors aka to dominate the numbers game.
But yeah, peak is definitely overrated in the grand scheme of things. Consistency is its own kind of peak and Djoker excels at it arguably better than anyone else past or present.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Neither does anyone else, including the players themselves. Fritz, Paul or Tiafoe winning this slam is <2% likelihood. I do think Shelton will have a good chance to beat Tommy tomorrow.
messiahrobins
Hall of Fame
Hope so as shelton on
Y one i like
Vamos Carlos Alcaraz
Semi-Pro
He lost two sets, not one.
NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
Who played a 5 setter at AO against peak Djokoer? Peak Djokoer didn't do much better against peak /prime Nadal at FO than Nadal did against him at AO.
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