Djokovic might lose No 1. ranking temporarily on November 1-st if Medvedev wins in IW
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Bubcay
Legend
Yep, definitely in the 'if' domain. We know Djokovic will not play anything, but we do not know if Med will win.Big "If".
Hitman
Bionic Poster
What doesn't make sense is Djokovic not being the heavyweight champion of the world.
Bubcay
Legend
Yeah. He should have played at IW and nuked everyone
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Would be epic but won't happen
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Yeah. He should have played at IW and nuked everyone
Whatever it takes to hold onto the title.
RaulRamirez
Legend
Belgrade 3 ATP100 coming?
NAS
Hall of Fame
To be fair Belgrade 3 atp 80 will do the trick
RaulRamirez
Legend
goldengate14
Professional
Who cares. Djokovic remains below Fedal on all time list, indeed there seem more than a few droppin him below Borg and Sampras on FB so the no.1 ranking does not change those perceptions.
Djokovic is the most consistent player of all time. Whether he stays at no.1 or loses it now is irrelevant. In terms of being the longest no.1 holder he has secured that accolade. Unfortunately it is not enough to get him up to Fedal in terms of status.
Bubcay
Legend
Well, anyone who really loves tennis and respects hard work, mastery of the game and results cannot deny his greatness. So, with all due respect for people's 'perceptions and opinions', results don't lie. He is at the very top of the ladder.
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itrium84
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Hey beckerserve, tell us more
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Deleted member 771911
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Djokovic will lose it it Medvedev will achieve it?
Bubcay
Legend
Potato - potahto... Mainly because of the ATP adjusting rankings coming out of the Covid changes. It would be for one week only..
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Deleted member 771911
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Beckerserve is back?
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goldengate14
Professional
Except he is 3rd and quite a distant third. Nadal and Federer have all the big achievements.
Bubcay
Legend
Um....
Novak Djokovic Extends 'Big Titles' Lead With Historic 20th Grand Slam | ATP Tour | Tennis
Novak Djokovic won a record-tying 20th Grand Slam title on Sunday at Wimbledon, and with his victory against Matteo Berrettini he extended his lead in the 'Big Titles' race over Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer.
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Current and Former Champions' Big Titles Won (Records Since 1990)
| Player | Grand Slams | Nitto ATP Finals | 1000s | Total^ (Avg) |
| Novak Djokovic | 20/65 | 5/13 | 36/118 | 61/199 (3.3) |
| Rafael Nadal | 20/62 | 0/10 | 36/123 | 57/197 (3.5) |
| Roger Federer | 20/80 | 6/17 | 28/138 | 54/240 (4.4) |
| Pete Sampras | 14/52 | 5/11 | 11/83 | 30/147 (4.9) |
| Andre Agassi | 8/61 | 1/13 | 17/90 | 27/164 (6.1) |
| Andy Murray | 3/51 | 1/8 | 14/100 | 20/162 (8.1) |
| Boris Becker* | 2/26 | 2/6 | 5/51 | 9/84 (9.3) |
| Thomas Muster | 1/29 | 0/4 | 8/53 | 9/87 (9.7) |
| Stefan Edberg** | 3/28 | 0/4 | 4/45 | 7/79 (11.3) |
| Gustavo Kuerten | 3/33 | 1/3 | 5/67 | 9/105 (11.6) |
| Jim Courier | 4/38 | 0/4 | 5/71 | 9/114 (12.6) |
| Marcelo Rios | 0/26 | 0/1 | 5/56 | 5/84 (16.8) |
| Marat Safin | 2/41 | 0/3 | 5/87 | 7/133 (19) |
| Michael Chang*** | 0/50 | 0/6 | 7/86 | 7/144 (20.6) |
| Andy Roddick | 1/46 | 0/6 | 5/75 | 6/129 (22.5) |
* Becker's four other Grand Slam titles came before 1990.
** Edberg's three other Grand Slam titles came before 1990.
*** Chang's one Grand Slam title came before 1990
Kralingen
Talk Tennis Guru
You have clearly failed to consider that RG 2020 was massive, and also, 2-1 bud.
Bubcay
Legend
Yes, I am ashamed now
Jokervich
Hall of Fame
0/10 really sticks out like a sore thumbUm....
Novak Djokovic Extends 'Big Titles' Lead With Historic 20th Grand Slam | ATP Tour | Tennis
Novak Djokovic won a record-tying 20th Grand Slam title on Sunday at Wimbledon, and with his victory against Matteo Berrettini he extended his lead in the 'Big Titles' race over Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer.
Current and Former Champions' Big Titles Won (Records Since 1990)
^ Includes Olympic Games gold medals and tournament participations
Player Grand Slams Nitto ATP Finals 1000s Total^ (Avg) Novak Djokovic 20/65 5/13 36/118 61/199 (3.3) Rafael Nadal 20/62 0/10 36/123 57/197 (3.5) Roger Federer 20/80 6/17 28/138 54/240 (4.4) Pete Sampras 14/52 5/11 11/83 30/147 (4.9) Andre Agassi 8/61 1/13 17/90 27/164 (6.1) Andy Murray 3/51 1/8 14/100 20/162 (8.1) Boris Becker* 2/26 2/6 5/51 9/84 (9.3) Thomas Muster 1/29 0/4 8/53 9/87 (9.7) Stefan Edberg** 3/28 0/4 4/45 7/79 (11.3) Gustavo Kuerten 3/33 1/3 5/67 9/105 (11.6) Jim Courier 4/38 0/4 5/71 9/114 (12.6) Marcelo Rios 0/26 0/1 5/56 5/84 (16.8) Marat Safin 2/41 0/3 5/87 7/133 (19) Michael Chang*** 0/50 0/6 7/86 7/144 (20.6) Andy Roddick 1/46 0/6 5/75 6/129 (22.5)
* Becker's four other Grand Slam titles came before 1990.
** Edberg's three other Grand Slam titles came before 1990.
*** Chang's one Grand Slam title came before 1990
NAS
Hall of Fame
They are dropping points by cutoff date of 2019 Paris master time, instead they should have dropped the point on date when 2021 edition was going to finished, which usually happens
Bubcay
Legend
That stat does stand out a bit, unfortunately.
To provide context - my post with achievements was only in a response to a pretty unreasonable statement. I think what all of the BIG 3 have achieved is just unbelievable and I have enjoyed any combination of their matches immensely over the years. For me - all three will always be special. Having said that, I do not think anybody with a straight face can dispute that Djokovic has achieved the most thus far and stands higher chances of further improving the numbers. I do not recognise the 'Weak era' arguments. Not in the early 2000s period and certainly not in the current one. One can only play one opponent at a time, whichever the draw throws at them. The game keeps developing and it is more demanding in an athleticism kind of way than ever.
On a side note, it is amazing how these discussions veer off the OP so easily
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mike danny
Bionic Poster
Disagree with the bolded. A 34 year old almost winning the CYGS and regularly outperforming guys 2 generations younger physically should already dismiss that statement as being true.That stat does stand out a bit, unfortunately.
To provide context - my post with achievements was only in a response to a pretty unreasonable statement. I think what all of the BIG 3 have achieved is just unbelievable and I have enjoyed any combination of their matches immensely over the years. For me - all three will always be special. Having said that, I do not think anybody with a straight face can dispute that Djokovic has achieved the most thus far and stands higher chances of further improving the numbers. I do not recognise the 'Weak era' arguments. Not in the early 2000s period and certainly not in the current one. One can only play one opponent at a time, whichever the draw throws at them. The game keeps developing and it is more demanding in an athleticism kind of way than ever.
On a side note, it is amazing how these discussions veer off the OP so easily
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Deleted member 748597
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So can we like ban Beckerserve's newest account.
goldengate14
Professional
You prove why Djokovic is Third. Having to post a thesis to try to prove a point automatically means someone cannot be the Greatest. The Greatest have achievements he whole world can point to. Nadal has the FO record that even non tennis fans know. He has a golden slam even non tennis fans would understand.Um....
Novak Djokovic Extends 'Big Titles' Lead With Historic 20th Grand Slam | ATP Tour | Tennis
Novak Djokovic won a record-tying 20th Grand Slam title on Sunday at Wimbledon, and with his victory against Matteo Berrettini he extended his lead in the 'Big Titles' race over Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer.
Current and Former Champions' Big Titles Won (Records Since 1990)
^ Includes Olympic Games gold medals and tournament participations
Player Grand Slams Nitto ATP Finals 1000s Total^ (Avg) Novak Djokovic 20/65 5/13 36/118 61/199 (3.3) Rafael Nadal 20/62 0/10 36/123 57/197 (3.5) Roger Federer 20/80 6/17 28/138 54/240 (4.4) Pete Sampras 14/52 5/11 11/83 30/147 (4.9) Andre Agassi 8/61 1/13 17/90 27/164 (6.1) Andy Murray 3/51 1/8 14/100 20/162 (8.1) Boris Becker* 2/26 2/6 5/51 9/84 (9.3) Thomas Muster 1/29 0/4 8/53 9/87 (9.7) Stefan Edberg** 3/28 0/4 4/45 7/79 (11.3) Gustavo Kuerten 3/33 1/3 5/67 9/105 (11.6) Jim Courier 4/38 0/4 5/71 9/114 (12.6) Marcelo Rios 0/26 0/1 5/56 5/84 (16.8) Marat Safin 2/41 0/3 5/87 7/133 (19) Michael Chang*** 0/50 0/6 7/86 7/144 (20.6) Andy Roddick 1/46 0/6 5/75 6/129 (22.5)
* Becker's four other Grand Slam titles came before 1990.
** Edberg's three other Grand Slam titles came before 1990.
*** Chang's one Grand Slam title came before 1990
Federer has over 100 titles. Federer has had the best season of all time in 2006 and at his peak was the most dominant player of all time which people remember. He even got a mention in an eisode of NCIS.
and finally djokovic all but admits he would swap his career for Nadal given he intends playing the paris Olympics chasing Gold. By then Rafa and Roger will be smugly relaxing enjoying life.
Musterrific
Hall of Fame
Absolutely. If a guy who won 3 slams in a calendar year and made the final of the 4th doesn't end the year ranked #1, then there's a serious flaw in the system.
Nothing you mentioned makes Federer or Nadal greater than Djokovic. Can't believe you brought up the fact that Federer has over 100 titles. Might as well mention how many aces he has. Absolutely irrelevant statistic.
You being previously banned in your quest to elevate Federer and Nadal shows how great Djokovic is. You just can't stand it and it shows.
Mileta Cekovic
Rookie
spottishwood
Hall of Fame
He's not confessed yet that he's beckerserve mate
Bubcay
Legend
Now I know you are pulling my leg, as you can't be serious. All the best.
Arguing Fed being better than Djokovic is a valid point and certainly one that is 50/50 for me but stop with this 100 title crap. Djokovic has more big titles. Federer’s 49 250/500 titles is all well and good but Djokovic and Nadal barely play them events.
Bubcay
Legend
Djokovic still might play Paris and WTF. I have a feeling that he would not want to drop the YE#1 and lose the opportunity to move away from Sampras as the sole most YE#1 holder and equal Federer with WTF wins. He likes to chase records, and there are not many left to best.
goldengate14
Professional
What are you talkin about lol? It is simply acknowledged Federer and Nadal are ahead of Djokovic. He fact you make up stuff about bans etc means you cannot handle the truth. Djokovic had his chance. He blew it. It is all about Federer and Nadal.now. go to any tennis event.
goldengate14
Professional
Lol what is a big title? Djokovic fans cannot decide what a big title is. We know the players consider Majors and Olympics the holy grails. It so happens Nadal has the lot and Federer managed a doubles gold. Right now their careers are better. And 100 titles is definitely a huge achieement that probably for many means Federer is Goat given he also has the most Majors.
djokovic does not lead in any category apart from rankings. Rankings do not equate to Greatness. They reward consistency.
goldengate14
Professional
Djokovic would prefer Nadal and Federers career. He has all but said so or did you miss his comments about the Olympics. I am not even stating my opinion i am literally going off whatDjokovic has said for over 10 years!
“Simply acknowledged”
And I’m Pete Sampras. See how easy it is to lie without backing up your statement?
goldengate14
Professional
Well speak to any tennis fan at any event. Or coaches at tennis clubs.
King_olaf_the_hairy
Semi-Pro
This is amazing. We now have a new way of establishing GOAThood. And the greatest of all time is John McEnroe, who not only got a mention in a TV show, he was the subject of an entire episode of CSI:New York. Like, he was the major plot point, and he starred in it as himself. That's wayyyy better than just a "mention".
Female GOAT must be Navratilova, who starred as herself (alongside Vijay Amrtiraj) in an episode of Hart to Hart. In fact, does that make Vijay the second-placed GOAT?
goldengate14
Professional
Many do put Mcenroe greatest of the 80s. I dont but go to former pro section and have a look. Your post perhaps explains why
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Just wild speculation. People running around bragging about getting other people banned. Glorious stuff.
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Deleted member 771911
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I say bring back beckerserve, uso and where is skypadq?
