Djokovic should've been disqualified in the 2014 Wimbledon final

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
So I'm rewatching the 2014 Wimbledon final between Federer and Djokovic in full, because I have no life and here's what I noticed:


42:12

DJOKOVIC FIRED A BALL THAT HIT A BALLGIRL. No apologies, nothing and you can see the girl was in a lot of pain.

Also (1:53:25) - that should've been Fed's point to give him 0-30, not a replay.
 
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RS

Bionic Poster
So I'm rewatching the 2014 Wimbledon final between Federer and Djokovic in full, because I have no life and here's what I noticed:


42:12

DJOKOVIC FIRED A BALL THAT HIT A BALLGIRL. No apologies, nothing and you can see the girl was in a lot of pain.
I never noticed
 

aus89

Hall of Fame
nah he tapped it over to her bc the balls were all going down to fed's end and she didn't notice and it bounced into her ankle, it wasn't struck in anger like the US Open situation where he clearly looked at her after losing a point and smacked it in her direction, might not have meant to hit her but it was a ball struck in aggression which then injured someone - no different to shapo slamming the ball into the eye of the umpire - didn't mean to hit him but still did on a ball struck in anger, therefore default. Completely different
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
Compared to the USO 2020 incident, this is a trivial matter. After all, Federer hit the ball boy a few times too, here is one example:
Fed should've been disqualified too.

Let's give MC to Djokovic and Wimbledon to Fed and just close the case right there.
nah he tapped it over to her bc the balls were all going down to fed's end and she didn't notice and it bounced into her ankle, it wasn't struck in anger like the US Open situation where he clearly looked at her after losing a point and smacked it in her direction, might not have meant to hit her but it was a ball struck in aggression which then injured someone - no different to shapo slamming the ball into the eye of the umpire - didn't mean to hit him but still did on a ball struck in anger, therefore default. Completely different
Wimbledon is way worse, you don't need your throat for anything, but you need your ankle for something, so there it is.
 

RS

Bionic Poster
OP now that Fed won 14 does he win both Wim 15 and USO 15? Then to extend Wim 19? ;)
 
lol good catch.

I maintain that the DQ at the USO was 99% due to the fact that he beaned blondie in the throat and she went down like she’d taken a bullet from Chris Kyle.

If he had hit her in the ankle (like this one) or like grazed her side they wouldn’t have even thought to DQ him.
He struck her like he was trying to deliver democracy. A Call Of Duty Warzone Djokovic skin would sell like candy.
 

vokazu

Hall of Fame
So I'm rewatching the 2014 Wimbledon final between Federer and Djokovic in full, because I have no life and here's what I noticed:


42:12

DJOKOVIC FIRED A BALL THAT HIT A BALLGIRL. No apologies, nothing and you can see the girl was in a lot of pain.

Also (1:53:25) - that should've been Fed's point to give him 0-30, not a replay.
What? Djokovic hit the ball to the ground and the ball bounced and hit the girl's leg? I didn't see the girl was in pain, she was just moving around like nothing hit her at all.

Didn't Federer once hit a ball that hit a ball kid's head near the net? Federer clearly aimed the ball at the ball kids near the net as he usually did. Why couldn't he just tap the ball gently instead of using a full force ground stroke?
 
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AnOctorokForDinner

Talk Tennis Guru
It was a ball off the bounce so not that hard, and not a particularly sensitive area; surely you're joking here.

Good point on the replay though. Djokovic seemed to strike (and miss) the ball just before the call was made so it wouldn't have hindered him. It is what it is, sadly enough.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
So I'm rewatching the 2014 Wimbledon final between Federer and Djokovic in full, because I have no life and here's what I noticed:


42:12

DJOKOVIC FIRED A BALL THAT HIT A BALLGIRL. No apologies, nothing and you can see the girl was in a lot of pain.

Also (1:53:25) - that should've been Fed's point to give him 0-30, not a replay.


No one was going to give Federer a free major he certainly did not deserve or earn. He lost to the superior player.
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
What? Djokovic hit the ball to the ground and the ball bounced and hit the girl's leg? I didn't see the girl was in pain, she was just moving around like nothing hit her at all.
she was
Didn't Federer once hit a ball that hit a ball kid's head near the net? Federer clearly aimed the ball at the ball kids near the net as he usually did. Why couldn't he just tap the ball gently instead of using s full force ground stroke?
that didn't happen
 

weakera

Talk Tennis Guru
DQ at US Open 2020 was actually wrong, Djokovic did not deserve to be removed.

Hope that fat unfit woman standing there with slow reflexes lost her job :) .... She might have cost Novak a slam.....


Agree that he didn't deserve to get DQ'd for hitting the lady, he deserved to get DQ'd for getting bodied by Carreno Busta.
 

TearTheRoofOff

G.O.A.T.
It was a ball off the bounce so not that hard, and not a particularly sensitive area; surely you're joking here.

Good point on the replay though. Djokovic seemed to strike (and miss) the ball just before the call was made so it wouldn't have hindered him. It is what it is, sadly enough.
Given Djokovic's propensity for winning by gnat-fart margins, it's funny that things like this and the Wawrinka one at the AO happened.
 

Phoenix*

Professional
No, but we should assign 2020 to Djo. He has 7[+1] Wimbledon trophies, equalling Federer. Fed has a few more finals though.
 

citybert

Hall of Fame
So I'm rewatching the 2014 Wimbledon final between Federer and Djokovic in full, because I have no life and here's what I noticed:


42:12

DJOKOVIC FIRED A BALL THAT HIT A BALLGIRL. No apologies, nothing and you can see the girl was in a lot of pain.

Also (1:53:25) - that should've been Fed's point to give him 0-30, not a replay.
much easier in US Open earlier rounds, no one paid tickets due to covid, etc I doubt they would send all those people home. Maybe a point penalty. game at most.
 

BauerAlmeida

Hall of Fame
no different to shapo slamming the ball into the eye of the umpire - didn't mean to hit him but still did on a ball struck in anger, therefore default.


They were completely different situations lol.

Shapovalov's had far more pace on the ball and actually caused a serious injury, not to mention that the ball was heading to the stands.

What Djokovic did was take the ball out of his pocket and throw it to the back of the court like it usually happens after a game is over.
 

Razer

Legend
Agree that he didn't deserve to get DQ'd for hitting the lady, he deserved to get DQ'd for getting bodied by Carreno Busta.

I am an equalist, regardless of a lady, or man, or anyone, if someone is in the wrong place then things happen as collateral damage. She was extremely unfit and with bad reflexes, so that happened with her and she was overreacting as well. Djokovic's intent was not violent in any way, unlike the Nalbandian or Shapovalov DQs, those were legit and well deserved because the players were violent and at fault. Novak got punished for no reason, I am pretty sure Federer would have got away with it. There have been occasions in the past when Federer hit ball boys on their head and smiled at them with swag, can you imagine Novak doing that ? Now imagine if instead of the ball boy if Roger had hit the lineswoman? Pretty sure the woman would have shrugged it off and told the match referee that it is not Roger's fault. Roger has the charm to make people take the blame for some unfortunate accident on themselves and Novak lacks the charm in his personality, so that can make people actually shift blame on him for an accident. I really hate that woman, her face is vivid on my mind and I blame her entirely for it. This has nothing to do with Novak personally, had this been Fed or Nadal then my response towards her would have been the same. She was just careless and someone else paid the price for it. Djokovic's intent was not violent like Nalbandian/Shapovalov's were. I hope the authorities sacked her from the job, she is just not fit to be a lineswoman.,.... period!
 

weakera

Talk Tennis Guru
I am an equalist, regardless of a lady, or man, or anyone, if someone is in the wrong place then things happen as collateral damage. She was extremely unfit and with bad reflexes, so that happened with her and she was overreacting as well. Djokovic's intent was not violent in any way, unlike the Nalbandian or Shapovalo DQs, those were legit and well deserved because the players were violent and at fault. Novak got punished for no reason, I am pretty sure Federer would have got away with it. There have been occasions in the past when Federer hit ball boys on their head and smiled at them with swag, can you imagine Novak doing that ? Now imagine if instead of the ball boy if Roger had hit the lineswoman? Pretty the woman would have shrug it off and told the match referee that it is not Roger's fault. Roger has the charm to make people take the blame for some unfortunate accident on themselves and Novak lacks the charm in his personality, so that can make people actually shift blame on him for an accident. I really hate that woman, her face is vivid on my mind and I blame her entirely for it. This has nothing to do with Novak personally, had this been Fed or Nadal then my response towards her would have been the same. She was just careless and someone else paid the price for it. Djokovic's intent was not violent like Nalbandian/Shapovalov's was. I hope the authorities sacked her from the job, she is just not fit to be a lineswoman.,.... period!

I was watching live and posting in the match thread, as soon as it happened I said he should not be DQ'd.
 

aus89

Hall of Fame
They were completely different situations lol.

Shapovalov's had far more pace on the ball and actually caused a serious injury, not to mention that the ball was heading to the stands.

What Djokovic did was take the ball out of his pocket and throw it to the back of the court like it usually happens after a game is over.
Uh no… djokovic smacked the ball hard in her direction and it hit her in the throat and she couldnt breathe properly for some time, and he had been smacking balls into the backboards/sides throughout the match beforehand - you can even see the commentators looking at it and saying "oh wow he hit it pretty hard too" - i dont think anyone thinks he meant to hit her, but he hit the ball recklessly in anger and it injured someone same as Shapo - same result - DQ that's all there is. She was standing in her appointed spot where she was meant to stand with nowhere else to go, and she didnt expect a ball smacked straight at her - the camera was not on her for any of you to judge her reflexes etc... and in the end that is irrelevant - reckless endangerment = DQ
 
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junior74

Talk Tennis Guru
They were completely different situations lol.

Shapovalov's had far more pace on the ball and actually caused a serious injury, not to mention that the ball was heading to the stands.

What Djokovic did was take the ball out of his pocket and throw it to the back of the court like it usually happens after a game is over.

It's a good thing the umpire's eyeball got in the way!
 

Rafa4LifeEver

G.O.A.T.
OP now that Fed won 14 does he win both Wim 15 and USO 15? Then to extend Wim 19? ;)
If Fed actually ended up winning Wimbledon 2014, he'd still have lost the Wimbledon 2015 final as his legs gave away after 2 hours anyways. USO 2015 is a close call, I agree.

Wimbledon 2019 could've been his in 4 sets even in 2019 with all the mental baggage, had he made any attempts at Djokovic service games in set 3.
 
DQ at US Open 2020 was actually wrong, Djokovic did not deserve to be removed.

Hope that fat unfit woman standing there with slow reflexes lost her job :) .... She might have cost Novak a slam.....
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Uh no… djokovic smacked the ball hard in her direction and it hit her in the throat and she couldnt breathe properly for some time, and he had been smacking balls into the backboards/sides throughout the match beforehand - you can even see the commentators looking at it and saying "oh wow he hit it pretty hard too" - i dont think anyone thinks he meant to hit her, but he hit the ball recklessly in anger and it injured someone same as Shapo - same result - DQ that's all there is. She was standing in her appointed spot where she was meant to stand with nowhere else to go, and she didnt expect a ball smacked straight at her - the camera was not on her for any of you to judge her reflexes etc... and in the end that is irrelevant - reckless endangerment = DQ
About time someone mentioned how Djoko was smacking balls left and right in that first set and seemed quite annoyed. I recall one ball Djokovic hit about 80 mph and it hit the side wall. This was right before the DQ incident where his all hit the lady’s throat.

Of course, Djokovic has ultimate responsibility for his actions, but I’ll to another way and say it’s a shame it got to that point. Carlos Ramos is at fault for not bringing Djoko in when he hit that ball hard into side wall. Ramos did not, so Ramos lost control to a degree imo. A few minutes later not having been warned or cautioned in any serious way, Djoko hit that ball lady.

Similarly, Ramos lost control with Serena at the USO in one of the most unnecessary DQs of all time. Ramos is a little b.
 

The Blond Blur

G.O.A.T.
DQ at US Open 2020 was actually wrong, Djokovic did not deserve to be removed.

Hope that fat unfit woman standing there with slow reflexes lost her job :) .... She might have cost Novak a slam.....
Considering Joker’s terribad record in 2-1 Open Fs we can safely assume that wouldn’t be the case, bud.
 
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