Djokovic will stop Nadal at this FO

ND-13

Hall of Fame
Nadal faced the best the tour has to offer at MC and still he did not lose more than 4 games a set. Shame Novak did not have the energy to sustain a young and energetic Thiem.

I have no doubt that Novak is the only person capable of posing a challenge to Rafa this year. I am also glad to see the Barcelona draw . Novak may lose that match but it will provide him a benchmark as to how much he needs to step up for RG.

Novak may lose to another player at RG, but should he face Nadal, I think he will play the match of his comeback.
 

roysid

Hall of Fame
He need to bring back the 2015-16 Djoker back to even have a chance.
Losing to Thiem doesn't help
 
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Plamen1234

Hall of Fame
If he meets with Nadal at RG he will lose in 3 set thriller - mark it. If my prediction is wrong you can bump it
 

Incognito

Legend
If Novak wins RG he will be GOAT, period.

2 career grand slams

1 four in a row

+ highest tennis level ever. Only player capable of beating Peak Rafa on clay at RG (2015), which is the greatest challenge in tennis. Something Fed couldn’t do against baby Nadal (2005-2008).

Let’s witness history. C’mon Novack, you can do it!:)
 
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Deleted member 77403

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If Novak wins RG he will be GOAT, period.

2 career grand slams

1 four in a row

+ highest tennis level ever. Only player capable of beating Peak Rafa on clay at RG (2015), which is the greatest challenge in tennis. Something Fed couldn’t do against baby Nadal (2005-2008).

Let’s witness history. C’mon Novack, you can do it!:)

LOL - Even if he does win RG by beating Nadal, he will still be significantly behind Nadal, let alone Federer.
 

Plamen1234

Hall of Fame
He need to bring back the 2015-16 Djoker back to even have a chance.
Losing to Thiem doesn't help

He definitely is not bringing 2015 back but he can bring 2016 form though.Then the match will be competitive but Nadal will still win.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
LOL - Even if he does win RG by beating Nadal, he will still be significantly behind Nadal, let alone Federer.

Highest CC level ever according to Wilander. Nadal and Soderling have praised his overall peak level.

It's undeniable. Novak win RG this year by beating Nadal and I'll start refering to him as GOAT Nole.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
I am also glad to see the Barcelona draw . Novak may lose that match but it will provide him a benchmark as to how much he needs to step up for RG.

You're assuming he's wants to step it up or is even capable of doing so. His level is about 50% of what it was in 2015 and 35% of what it was in 2011 in terms of stamina, fitness and quality of shot. If he meets Rafa in Barcelona it will be a brutal beat down, something like 6-2, 6-2 for Nadal.
 

Incognito

Legend
LOL - Even if he does win RG by beating Nadal, he will still be significantly behind Nadal, let alone Federer.

Yes, that will make him GOAT. That would be a perfect way to demonstrate a complete mastery of all surfaces. winning a specific major once is just a fluke. Plus, Rafa has already said Novack has the highest level ever. @RF-18
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
If Novak wins RG he will be GOAT, period.

2 career grand slams

1 four in a row

+ highest tennis level ever. Only player capable of beating Peak Rafa on clay at RG (2015), which is the greatest challenge in tennis. Something Fed couldn’t do against baby Nadal (2005-2008).

Let’s witness history. C’mon Novack, you can do it!:)

2015 peak Nadal? 2015 was the worst year of Nadal by far. He was 100% healthy but unconfident with his game. He had horrible results by mental lack of confidence. With that being said, it is still impressive what Djokovic did. Not only did Djokovic defeat Nadal at RG 2015, but also in several other Master 1000 matches.

Do you remember Rome 2016? Djokovic had some kind of mental advantage over Nadal:


But those days are gone after Nadal defeated Djokovic in Madrid 2017:

 

Incognito

Legend
2015 peak Nadal? 2015 was the worst year of Nadal by far. He was 100% healthy but unconfident with his game. He had horrible results by mental lack of confidence. With that being said, it is still impressive what Djokovic did. Not only did Djokovic defeat Nadal at RG 2015, but also in several other Master 1000 matches.

Do you remember Rome 2016? Djokovic had some kind of mental advantage over Nadal:


But those days are gone after Nadal defeated Djokovic in Madrid 2017:



Rubbish explanation *detected*:)
 

Raining hopes

Hall of Fame
If Novak wins RG he will be GOAT, period.

2 career grand slams

1 four in a row

+ highest tennis level ever. Only player capable of beating Peak Rafa on clay at RG (2015), which is the greatest challenge in tennis. Something Fed couldn’t do against baby Nadal (2005-2008).

Let’s witness history. C’mon Novack, you can do it!:)

Err you included 2007- 2008 as "baby Nadal" tell me a single player who reached the same stratosphere of clay court tennis as he did then.
Also 2005-06 version was a bloody wall with a Jon Snow syndrome,he was ready to kill his body on the court to win the match.

I do not think 2015 Nadal is even near being in conversation of being equal to 2005-06 version.Let alone 2007-08 ones
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal faced the best the tour has to offer at MC and still he did not lose more than 4 games a set. Shame Novak did not have the energy to sustain a young and energetic Thiem.

I have no doubt that Novak is the only person capable of posing a challenge to Rafa this year. I am also glad to see the Barcelona draw . Novak may lose that match but it will provide him a benchmark as to how much he needs to step up for RG.

Novak may lose to another player at RG, but should he face Nadal, I think he will play the match of his comeback.

I'll take that bet with you and I will say with the utmost certainty possible for somebody who can't foretell the future, that he won't. Feel free to bring this post up if I'm wrong.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
I just am dumbfounded how anyone can think a guy with 13 majors (if Djoker wins RG, which isn't happening) is GOAT with seven less majors than Fed. It's so insane it's laughable. And the person making this claim doesn't even know how to spell "Novack's" name. Troll alert times ten.
 

E36BMWM3

Hall of Fame
Nadal faced the best the tour has to offer at MC and still he did not lose more than 4 games a set. Shame Novak did not have the energy to sustain a young and energetic Thiem.

I have no doubt that Novak is the only person capable of posing a challenge to Rafa this year. I am also glad to see the Barcelona draw . Novak may lose that match but it will provide him a benchmark as to how much he needs to step up for RG.

Novak may lose to another player at RG, but should he face Nadal, I think he will play the match of his comeback.
And I think you need to stop sniffing glue
 
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Deleted member 716271

Guest
I just am dumbfounded how anyone can think a guy with 13 majors (if Djoker wins RG, which isn't happening) is GOAT with seven less majors than Fed. It's so insane it's laughable. And the person making this claim doesn't even know how to spell "Novack's" name. Troll alert times ten.

I'm dumbfounded at how poor your sarcasm detection is
 

Incognito

Legend
I just am dumbfounded how anyone can think a guy with 13 majors (if Djoker wins RG, which isn't happening) is GOAT with seven less majors than Fed. It's so insane it's laughable. And the person making this claim doesn't even know how to spell "Novack's" name. Troll alert times ten.


You’re just mad because Tina Turner made a better version of ”Help”.:)
 

Jonas78

Legend
As a fan of the great swizz, Rafa is now the new enemy, and we are teaming up with the Ultronians to protect Rogers records (hypocrazy has no limits:D).

May the great Djoker rise from the ashes and once again rule the red clay of Paris!
 

Plamen1234

Hall of Fame
As a fan of the great swizz, Rafa is now the new enemy, and we are teaming up with the Ultronians to protect Rogers records (hypocrazy has no limits:D).

May the great Djoker rise from the ashes and once again rule the red clay of Paris!

Lol yeah.In 2014 and especially in 2015 was exactly the opposite.Now we need Novak - only for Paris though
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
It’s funny how I’m an Aspie and I still have a better sarcasm detector than you.

@Incognito @TheGhostOfAgassi @Hydrocella
But to be true, I do believe it is reasons to believe Novak could be goat.
Just to copy from @Red Rick (hope ok)
"Double career GS, non calendar year GS, most top 10 wins in a season. Most extramarital affairs in YE#1 season"
Not that I believe so, but its reasonable arguments.
 

Jonas78

Legend
Lol yeah.In 2014 and especially in 2015 was exactly the opposite.Now we need Novak - only for Paris though
Yes, who would think this would be the situation back In 2014/2015 right? Roger is one thing, he was there, and only stopped by Nole. But Rafas comeback? As winner and runner-up at HC-slams, and la Decima. But thats tennis, part of what makes It exciting:)
 

anhtuanngo

Semi-Pro
to complete the career grand slam twice would be an incredible achievement, something Fedal have been unable to do. Unfortunately I don't see it happening.

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West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
Nadal would need to get injured to be stopped.
Or go to one incredible two day party that lasts until about 4 hrs before Sunday’s Final.

Mentally, physically, ND is ‘not in a good place’. Hard to believe he can right the ship in a month. Even if he won MAD or Rome, beating Nadal on the way, there’s little sign he could sustain that level of endurance and quality best 3 out of 5. You can win 2 out of 3 matches in 10 minutes; get hot at the end of the 1st and get a break, then get an early one in the 2nd. That’s why majors are so cherished (and the men should never switch to 2 out of 3 even in the first few round). You have to sustain it 3 out of 5 and do it 7 times.
 
Djoker is better equiped than anyone to do it, but I don't think it will be this year. If he couldn't beat Rafa in 2012, 2013 or 2014 he won't do it this year. If they meet at RG this year it will be more like 2015 in reverse - If Djoker keeps improving his game and confidence though, I could see an epic next year.
 

ChrisRF

Legend
He need to bring back the 2015-16 Djoker back to even have a chance.
Losing to Thiem doesn't help
This! He really needs that form to even have a chance. Remember Nadal lost to many other players in 2015, even on clay. Some people act like Djokovic in that 2015 RG match played better than Rafa EVER at RG.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
I just am dumbfounded how anyone can think a guy with 13 majors (if Djoker wins RG, which isn't happening) is GOAT with seven less majors than Fed. It's so insane it's laughable. And the person making this claim doesn't even know how to spell "Novack's" name. Troll alert times ten.
Nadal fans have been ready to declare Nadal GOAT for many years if were just to win AO. You know ... the "double career slammie" thing :D

So no surprise if Nole does it first, although suddenly VB will shift the target and disown the DCS concept completely. Actually, I'd love to see the reaction if Nole wins RG. It's actually a wonderful idea just to see the hilarity on the forum. All the talk of rigged draws, weak draws, mugs choking, rigged schedule, rigged weather and what not will rear its ugly head all over again.

Hopefully, even 90s Clay will make a roaring comeback using another username :D
 
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Chadillac

Guest
It maybe Nadals worst match up since the maestro doesnt play on common dirt. Both like time inbetween pts, etc.

Peaks rise and fall as we have seen

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