Ok the women seem to take this tournament seriously. I think its a mandatory. But this tournament for the men even if its a masters seems to be the tournament that neither the Men or even fans give a fart about. No one watches in the stands. None of the men give a rats ***. It seems almost an extension of Barcelona. Except in Barcelona fans actually show up. Monte Carlo which isnt even a mandatory masters seems to hold more importance for the men. They should just drop this thing and make Hamburg a masters Grass.
Does anyone actually care about Madrid?
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monfed
Banned
Yes, Madrid does feel a lot like Shanghai in that noone cares (besides Murray for the latter since he can't win anywhere else :lol: ) as it doesn't prepare the top guys for RG as much as Rome does cause of the playing surface mainly. MC is a lot like that too, cause by the time RG rolls around, everyone's forgotten MC and Rome's used for current form.
TeamOB
Professional
Nole cares based on how he celebrated the 2011 title:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g43cWPNBMU0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g43cWPNBMU0
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
Yeah man, 1000 ranking points would be nice for most...
In a way I think the women have their schedule set up better than the men. Madrid and Rome are the two big tournaments leading into the French for them. They dont have Three like the men who then skip or tank madrid after Monte Carlo and before Rome. If Monte Carlo was not a masters I think Madrid would hold alot more importance as a masters than it does now. This tournament has a weird feel every year. Blue clay no blue clay. Top players skipping. 8 people watching. How a city like Madrid with millions of people and many top players on the mens side cant show up is weird. Hell you can almost understand China its a new sport and they dont have anyone cept Ni La. This is just weird.
THESEXPISTOL
Hall of Fame
People don't show up because the ticket prices are outrageous!
Chico
Banned
Agree. The worst Masters by far. Should replace it with Hamburg.
What kind of prices are we talking about?
Thats odd. Madrid might as well be in a different country than Barcelona. Barcelona has decent attendance but really filling that little stadium in Barcelona with a city that size shouldnt be hard. Madrid is a massive city I can believe tennis fans would give two craps about administration problems.
SystemicAnomaly
Bionic Poster
chjtennis
G.O.A.T.
Isn't this reason enough to keep it in Madrid?
That girl looks too young to be an objective of sexual desire to me.
G
Golden
Guest
Isn't this reason enough to keep it in Madrid?
Why do they even hire models as ballkids?
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
I repeat what I wrote somewhere.
Uncle Toni has always been against holding the Masters in Madrid in spring. Due to Madrid's altitude, it has conditions that differ from those in Monte Carlo, Rome and Paris.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Players have to play, because it's a mandatory Masters.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Barcelona is the capital of Catalonia. Haven't you heard that Catalans think of themselves as a separate nation from the rest of Spain?
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Federer20042006
Banned
I only cared when it was blue clay. That made it a unique event with a cool aesthetic.
Chico
Banned
Isn't this reason enough to keep it in Madrid?
That was a nice touch, but they don't even have that any more.
syke
Professional
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Watching matches on blue clay hurt my eyes, but some pictures of Rafa are interesting
syke
Professional
Watching matches on red clay makes me squint my eyes.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Hamburg was a great tournament. @blueclay, 2years later I find my mind changed. The blue at least would set Madrid apart and make it interesting.
Firing Forehand
Rookie
I agree with this and pretty much everything else that has been said. Madrid is easily the worst of the 1000 events to me. It seems inferior in every aspect to Monte Carlo, Rome and even Barcelona. From the way it looks on television, to the atmosphere, to the actual tennis that is played. To be honest, weaker field aside, Houston comes off better on TV.
And I can't even compare to Shanghai, because Shanghai looks pretty sweet...great stadium and better atmosphere.
Blue clay made Madrid interesting, but thanks to the King and the court Djester, it sucks worse than ever now.
Seriously, think of the lesser tournaments you prefer...for me = Dubai, Acapulco, Rio, Barcelona, Halle, Queens, DC, Basel.
heninfan99
Talk Tennis Guru
This year...a little bit, depends on the match-ups. I'm huge fan of night matches in Rome and look past Madrid a bit.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
The color of the court was awful:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOW2uwQGSvg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOW2uwQGSvg
m2nk2
Hall of Fame
Even though I think the clay season is by far the best season in tennis, I don't really care that much for M. I hate the stadiums. They all have this weird roof and walls creating really annoying shadows on the court. Then the first 20 or so rows are VIP booths that are mostly empty.
Can't wait for R though!
Can't wait for R though!
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
Are you complaining?
On topic though, I agree. Doubly so this year because all the top players except Nadal are out, but I've never really liked Madrid.
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That's good. Now, wtf? Players have to be there despite how they feel about the tournament.
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
I'm sure someone does. As a fan, I'm pretty disinterested.
mbm0912
Hall of Fame
Comments from spaniards about Madrid:
"Ahí es cuando el mal hacer de este torneo más se evidenciará. No tiene tradición ni un club detrás, no cuidan al público actual ni al potencial, no progresan como torneo y solo crecen como espectáculo. Parece más bien un acontecimiento para exhibir glamour. Para que los empresarios y políticos de turno se den palmaditas en la espalda unos a otros y que los personajes relevantes o de clase alta se dejen ver de cara a la galería. Veo el Godó y me transmite tenis. Veo el Masters de Madrid y solo me transmite negocio. ****e o temprano Madrid dejará de invertir en el tenis en cuanto ya no sea interesante ni beneficioso apostar por tener un torneo relevante. El torneo de Valencia tenía la misma pinta hasta que algunos tenistas de esa región se han implicado."
"A ver que tal se comportan este año aunque supongo que será la misma mierda de apestados pijos que van gratis y entradas a 40€ y gradas vacias... Como se les caiga Nadal en primeras rondas esto no lo salva ni Messi... En 4-5 años cuando Nadal no esté o sea uno del montón veremos quien viene a ver esto sin tenistas españoles favoritos al triunfo."
"No hay mas que ver la cantidad de palco VIP que hay para que vayan los tontitos de turno al postureo que no han visto un partido de tenis en todo el año."
And it goes on... In short, they pretty much complain about the administrators bias with high class citizens and political figures.
And a news article about volunteers whose work is to fill the madrid stadium, so it doesn't look that empty: http://www.puntodebreak.com/2014/05/07/un-vip-infiltrado
Obviously, in spanish.
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chjtennis
G.O.A.T.
Mmmmm. Not me...
I thought she was a teenager. Maybe because of her cap which covers large proportion of her face, she looked much younger than she actually was. Can't really tell how old, but I thought she was a young girl. :|
heninfan99
Talk Tennis Guru
Yes, the blue clay was AWESOME. They should bring that back.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
syke
Professional
Then maybe you need to change the colour of your avatar.
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
What they should do is take the 1000 status from Madrid and give it to a grass court tournament… I mean, what gives that there's no master 1000 on grass, the most traditional surface in this sport? :?
I don't care how they do it, promote Queens, promote Halle or make Hamburg a grass court event and give it back its Master's 1000 status, just make it happen!
I don't care how they do it, promote Queens, promote Halle or make Hamburg a grass court event and give it back its Master's 1000 status, just make it happen!
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
I don't think that any player wants a mandatory Masters tournament on grass.
monfed
Banned
Watching matches on blue clay hurt my eyes, but some pictures of Rafa are interesting
Blue is a soothing color.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Are you color blind? Don't you see the difference between colors???
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peakofthebounce
Banned
Nadal will have to go through the clay titans Monaco, Nieminen, Berdych, Kubot and Feliciano Lopez in order to get the title.
His toughest match will be against the guy who just got beaten and breadsticked by Carlos Berlocq.
His toughest match will be against the guy who just got beaten and breadsticked by Carlos Berlocq.
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
That's a Rafa fan for you, just because Nadal wouldn't like it immediately means that nobody would like it
There are many players whose games are not suited to clay or who at least prefer grass court. These would all rejoice over a grass Master's 1000. Let's begin the list shall we?
Federer
Tsonga
Isner
Murray
Hewitt
Janowicz
Haas
etc.
Currently any good grass court player has a huge disadvantage to the other specialists. Grass court specialists can really only play 2 grass tournaments (time-wise) in the whole year. There are more more Master's 1000s on clay or hard court than that. It's extremely unbalanced and should not be so.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
That's a Rafa fan for you, just because Nadal wouldn't like it immediately means that nobody would like it
There are many players whose games are not suited to clay or who at least prefer grass court. These would all rejoice over a grass Master's 1000. Let's begin the list shall we?
Federer
Tsonga
Isner
Murray
Hewitt
Janowicz
Haas
etc.
Currently any good grass court player has a huge disadvantage to the other specialists. Grass court specialists can really only play 2 grass tournaments (time-wise) in the whole year. There are more more Master's 1000s on clay or hard court than that. It's extremely unbalanced and should not be so.
The players would try to skip this Masters somehow - to rest between Roland Garros and Wimbledon.
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