i'll teach you to properly reply to my post, both in terms of organization and content
as does Djokovic, but I don't see his name thrown around ever in this regard
then you need a reality check as i have seen him caled out in that bs many times. MANY
again, as does Djokovic and to a lesser extent, Del Potro. Besides, I never quite understood *******s' incessant statements that Rafa would burn out or retire early due to his style of play, then almost simultaneously and unanimously state that he is faking whenever he does succumb to those same injuries *******s predicted he would get
Good luck in finding me making such statements. i could care less what the Federetes say!!
- as is everybody else. I don't see *******s accuse Djokovic of PEDing even though he's outNadal-ing Nadal
does he (ND) look roided up?
that's a matter of taste, not a fact, but you're genuinely welcome to feel that way if you want for that very reason
never said it was!
if Rafa's grunts sound like that of a pig's then you clearly have no idea what a pig sounds like. At any rate, Djokovic grunts loudly too, as does Murray, and he sounds sounds like a strangled cow
says the farmer to the boy...
- exhibitions and doubles both require far less concentration/effort and/or running respectively, but this is a fair enough point
pick the finger so i can scratch my armpit...
wears cheesy clothes - yeah, because Rafa design his own clothes and chooses his own wardrobe, while Nike is paid to let him use their logo
you telling me he as no saying in that? keep dreaming baby!
- I don't recall him ever try take away from his opponent when he loses. Where he's injured, he insists that his injury isn't why he lost, but rather because his opponent played incredibly. If you want a player who doesn't respect the opponent after a loss, refer to Serena Williams.
Nadal's atitude towards Nole before and after. nuff said!
- - what constitutes unnecessary? Almost everyone on tour does these. Plus, a celebration after an opponent's UE isn't a de facto situation of un-necessity. Sometimes, especially when you start to have doubts about a particular point, while you are playing that said point, an opponent's UE will feel like a godsend.
so you think fistpumpimg like a pig in a second game of first set of a masters series
is understandable
from a member of a board that nitpicks over whether the latest BLX paintjob is nice or not, this is rich.
huh?
Anyway, his complaints were pretty specific, and not simply over the fact that it's blue.
specific in the matter that "it favours the other and is not good to me". very nice gesture... the best guy on tour!!!
- I think he only "whines" about the wear and tear HC does to players' knees, which is true. Doctors even recommend normal people like us to avoid even jogging on cement, so I can't imagine the amount of damage HC does to players' knees.
as does the clay to the ankles. i dont see you nadatards say anything about it! tit for tat
Plus, it is true that HC is overrepresented amongst the surfaces, at least to my knowledge. Bring more grass.
agree.
gives death glares across the net when he gets owned - I don't think they're death glares, because he always has a serious look throughout proper matches. However since it's not like I asked Rafa about said 'death glares' but neither have you, I think we ought to agree to disagree on this point.[/b]
ok
stick to the topic.
- actually, all of them do, though Rafa seems to have more, er, 'creativity' in this department than does anybody else. Plus, casual labelling of 'OCD' is not a black/white affair. My friends still think I'm OCD because I add lead tape to my racquet, and want a second racquet with the exact same specs.
your friend thinks you have ocd for having matching gear? he nees to study about psychology.
- - and what, Djokovic has only his neighbourhood block in Serbia supporting him? Last time I checked, the guy may as well become head of state after he retires. Besides, if you find this aspect annoying, you ought to really hate Murray, since at least Rafa lives up to his hype in terms of results.
wake me up when you have chokers to the caliber of Dasco and Gordo....
-. for evidence see op and my sig. - b_tching = complaining continuously, spitefully. Guess which group happens to do just this the most?
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yes. that is why there are two threads with nadal fans requesting a "little more love for my poster boy"
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- Djokovic shares many of the criticisms you have mentioned, yet it's only Rafa who gets hated for them.
- Rafa leads the H2H with Federer, beating Federer summarily; has denied Federer numerous slams, almost all of them in finals
- Djokovic trails the H2H with Federer
- Djokovic has been summarily beating Rafa in the past year, but has major trouble beating, or gets beaten by Federer
- *******s gleefully rub in Rafa's losses to Djokovic, making statements along the lines of "now you know what it feels like"
- The above said commonly-shared experience is the experience of a favourite player being defeated routinely at finals, denying said favourite player of the title
- Given the aforementioned, it seems highly unlikely that the unequal treatment of these two players is purely bad luck or coincidence, but rather due to the fact that Djokovic is like Federer's vengeance personified; the fact that Djokovic also scrapes wins over Federer gives *******s hope, unlike Rafa who as far as *******s are concerned is a foregone conclusion
- Since it appears that *******s and/or Fed fans (who I believe to make up a large part if not the majority of this forum's members) hate Rafa primarily, if not solely, on the basis that Rafa defeats Federer convincingly (and therefore without even a shred of hope that Fed can prevail in the future), I think lists like the above are in fact an afterthought, compiled only to convince themselves and others that their hatred of the "topspin monkey" is in fact rational.
- However, it is clear from the application of such reasons (i.e. players who share many or most of the complaints ought to be similarly-hated, yet are not, especially if they appear to beat Rafa convincingly with regularity), that these complaints as justifications for the Rafa hate does not actually hold water.
- Therefore, the general hatred of Rafa on this forum is simple: because a) he has a leading H2H against Federer, which were b) amassed at crucial meetings, i.e. at slam finals, thereby denying Federer any more slams.
- That said, it is not wrong to hate Rafa, nor is it unusual. All I am saying is that these self-proclaimed 'rational' Fed fans who hate Rafa are anything but rational, let alone unbiased. Rational people are consistent, but aside a few exceptions, most of them are anything but so in their application of the numerous, shared and common factors that, apparently, cause them to hate only Rafa.
with that said, i am not a Federer Fan and Djokovic is not even my favourite!!! so there goes your theory!!! most of my favouritie playes are not even top 10!
