Fed Called out for Cheating?!.
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TheMusicLover
G.O.A.T.
I'm no psychiatrist, but whatever disorder she's having, I'm sure it can be found in the DSM-V, and if not, it should be added there.
augustobt
Legend
Yeah, it's the same thing.
Knee surgery, then barely playing, losing his first grand slam in almost 20 years, losing on his best surface to anyone. Not to mention his terrible slip against Raonic.
But hey, it's the same thing that being 6 months off after winning 2/3 Masters on clay and RG (after trashing a 6-0 6-0 in then world number 10 Juan Monaco). Great comparison!
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Deleted member 743561
Guest
haha... some nonsense about a platano, and the commentators don't even want to acknowledge it.
McEnroe: "This is weird. Sore throat, maybe..."
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
augustobt
Legend
I know you're a joker out of yourself but this is beyond limits.
Yeah, sure thing! Federer couldn't barely move, clearly needed a trainer. Just came from a 5 set turnaround against Benneteau. Just for instance - this set went to a tie-breaker.
Almost 36 year old asking for a trainer before playing his second/third fifth set in 2/3 matches? Wow!
Now you want me to break down nadal's MTO and bring up the list including doctors during changeovers?
Bad back (it's a recurring thing on his career). Was in the middle of the set, right after a break or when the opponent would serve for the set? Hm, I guess not.Fed (what I have found on the Internet):
So you want to count treatment on changeovers? Alright! We can pump those Nadal numbers previously mentioned.
Asking for a trainer on the fifth set of a four hour marathon? Totally strange and suspicious, right?
Federer serving 2-3 in the third. It was like 3 hours of match at that point, I think. But hey, totally disrupt your opponent rhythm by taking it before your own serve in such a pressuring moment, right?
Yeah, sure thing! Federer couldn't barely move, clearly needed a trainer. Just came from a 5 set turnaround against Benneteau. Just for instance - this set went to a tie-breaker.
He did that after the set finished. Funny, he lost in the following round and never mentioned this pain again unlike someone.
Same thing as above.
Now is this a joke or what? Federer literally had just slipped in a terrible fashion - on his knee that he had a surgery early on.
Almost 36 year old asking for a trainer before playing his second/third fifth set in 2/3 matches? Wow!
Now you want me to break down nadal's MTO and bring up the list including doctors during changeovers?
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
I know you're a joker out of yourself but this is beyond limits.
Bad back (it's a recurring thing on his career). Was in the middle of the set, right after a break or when the opponent would serve for the set? Hm, I guess not.
So you want to count treatment on changeovers? Alright! We can pump those Nadal numbers previously mentioned.
Asking for a trainer on the fifth set of a four hour marathon? Totally strange and suspicious, right?
Federer serving 2-3 in the third. It was like 3 hours of match at that point, I think. But hey, totally disrupt your opponent rhythm by taking it before your own serve in such a pressuring moment, right?
Yeah, sure thing! Federer couldn't barely move, clearly needed a trainer. Just came from a 5 set turnaround against Benneteau. Just for instance - this set went to a tie-breaker.
He did that after the set finished. Funny, he lost in the following round and never mentioned this pain again unlike someone.
Same thing as above.
Now is this a joke or what? Federer literally had just slipped in a terrible fashion - on his knee that he had a surgery early on.
Almost 36 year old asking for a trainer before playing his second/third fifth set in 2/3 matches? Wow!
Now you want me to break down nadal's MTO and bring up the list including doctors during changeovers?
Nothing will change the fact that Fed has a long history of taking MTOs.
Urkezi
Semi-Pro
I don't think you actually understand what LONG or HISTORY really means. Because if Roger has a long history, how would you describe Rafa's? Please, give it a go, just for our amusement.
augustobt
Legend
Long history? In almost 20 years you failed to came with an average of 1 per year. Is that a "long history" for you?
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Nothing is justifying the false stories created about Rafa.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
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Urkezi
Semi-Pro
I've read that post. In fact, I've quoted it and responded to it - this is why people are again laughing at you. Now I want an answer. Rafa takes on average 3.36x more MTO's than Roger. If Roger has a long history, what does Rafa have?
Lol. Pigs fly and Rafa still looks 25 in your world as well, right?
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
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clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
You are obviously not interested in the evidence.I've read that post. In fact, I've quoted it and responded to it - this is why people are again laughing at you. Now I want an answer. Rafa takes on average 3.36x more MTO's than Roger. If Roger has a long history, what does Rafa have?
Lol. Pigs fly and Rafa still looks 25 in your world as well, right?
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Fedfan34
Guest
What I find funny/endearing is that Rogi himself didn't get angry about it. Like it wasn't even worth his energy.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
That's because he knows he did cheat.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
I've read that post. In fact, I've quoted it and responded to it - this is why people are again laughing at you. Now I want an answer. Rafa takes on average 3.36x more MTO's than Roger. If Roger has a long history, what does Rafa have?
Lol. Pigs fly and Rafa still looks 25 in your world as well, right?
Your laughter doesn't change anything.
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Fedfan34
Guest
I bet he's lolling hard right now.
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Fedfan34
Guest
Probably, since they're all in his pocket. And then he'll lol even harder.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
And everyone will know that the award is a joke.
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Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Oh, Pat
Tennis_Hands
Banned
I love how queenie found the time to continue with the Fed hate, but never appologized for her blatant lies.
Tennis_Hands
Banned
What?
Like your foaming at the mouth and dedication to troll till the end of your days here without any consistent logic?
I bet that it doesn't change it.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
What?
Like your foaming at the mouth and dedication to troll till the end of your days here without any consistent logic?
I bet that it doesn't change it.
A logical addition to this thread:
Tennis_Hands
Banned
A logical addition to this thread:
Your mask has been removed a long time ago.
In this thread as well.
I didn't see you criticizing your fellow Vamos a la playa Brigade member clayqueen for her lies regarding when a MTO is due.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Your mask has been removed a long time ago.
In this thread as well.
I didn't see you criticizing your fellow Vamos a la playa Brigade member clayqueen for her lies regarding when a MTO is due.
What mask?
Tennis_Hands
Banned
What mask?
Your behaviour here is a chosen approach that has nothing to do with any beliefs on principle (i.e. not inventing stories, looking for objective approach etc.).
Just another NSK or Nadal_Freak.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Love the arguments from the RF Fans that throughout his career he's had the least amount of the MTO, therefore, leave him alone.
First of all, we all know (and some of us admit) that RF is amazing and to compete at this level at his age is simply...unique.
However, to have two extensive MTO right after the opponent has tied 2:2 in the match...and then come back like nothing happened?
Reminds me of his terrible WTF injury and burgundy sweater speech, then playing a 100% less than a week later in the DC...
First of all, we all know (and some of us admit) that RF is amazing and to compete at this level at his age is simply...unique.
However, to have two extensive MTO right after the opponent has tied 2:2 in the match...and then come back like nothing happened?
Reminds me of his terrible WTF injury and burgundy sweater speech, then playing a 100% less than a week later in the DC...
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Your behaviour here is a chosen approach that has nothing to do with any beliefs on principle (i.e. not inventing stories, looking for objective approach etc.).
Just another NSK or Nadal_Freak.
You are just another Fed worshiper.
Tennis_Hands
Banned
The analogy is disastrous.
Also, your suggestion is that RF just decided to change his whole approach regarding the MTOs, without being granted anything.
The_18th_Slam
Hall of Fame
1. He didn't say it was a "terrible injury". He just said he wasn't fit enough to compete with Djokovic at that level, which is entirely within his rights to make a call about.
2. Why the hell would he not compete in the final of the 5th biggest event in Tennis if he was fully fit? He went on to make another WTF final the very next year and did face Djokovic, so why do you think he would fake an injury to not play Djokovic in 2014?
3. A week is enough time to recover from certain kinds of niggles and injuries. He's a professional Tennis player with hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank, which affords him the luxury of hiring the best people around to get him reasonably fit in a week or so, provided the injury isn't too serious.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
I am not suggesting he changed the strategy with MTO - he's had them before, they are just being overlooked (scroll up a page or two)The analogy is disastrous.
Also, your suggestion is that RF just decided to change his whole approach regarding the MTOs, without being granted anything.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
2) H2H, his ego. Getting trashed (and have no chance) by someone he does not particularly like and someone threatening his legacy (2014/2015) would hurt more than anything.
3) A total BS. He battled Stan the night before. It was a great match with NO MTO for any injury. To any objective fan, it was also obvious that while Stan had a chance against hot Novak, Federer had no chance in that final. After all, the WTF is the event for the fan's eyes rather than "the 5th biggest event in Tennis" as you portrayed it to be because of the $/points amount. Some of those fans paid a monthly salary to watch the final...
Urkezi
Semi-Pro
Pathetic. The only thing being overlooked is actually how dumb your posts are. All of them. By you, of course.
The_18th_Slam
Hall of Fame
So why did he fight so hard to win the semifinal? Wouldn't it have been easier just to tank that match? And why did he also not tank in the 2015 semifinal to avoid Djokovic?
H2H is a stupid reason considering how often he made it to Djokovic and played in 2014 and 2015. Try again.
Again, if there was no injury and Federer knew he had no chance against Djokovic and wanted to protect his H2H, why even fight that hard to win against Wawrinka? Wouldn't it have been easier to tank against Wawrinka?
Noelan
Legend
Thread itself is golden.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
E G O
He is Stan's "buddy" just like he is Rafa's "buddy". Stan became the Swiss #1, Federer is going to fight not to allow that (plus the trash talk between Stan and Mirka)...
In 99% of matches Federer had a 50/50 (or better) chance against Novak. Go back to the polls taken before every GS final (Wimby, USO...) 2011-2016. THAT is why he fought it. He had no chance in that WTF final (due to exaggerated injury, grueling SF match against Stan, and end of the season).
The_18th_Slam
Hall of Fame
That's nice, but that theory has no basis in reality. It's just something you dreamed up.
LOL, what? People here mostly vote for what they want to happen, and this forum has a lot of Federer fans. The more objective metric would be the bookmakers' odds, and I assure you that Djokovic was the favorite for most of the matches according to them.
So you agree that he had an injury. Thanks for playing. Now you can go back to your cave.
Alfred Chicken
Rookie
...and at what point exactly - according to you it must have been sometime during the SF - did Federer actually realize that the odds had suddenly changed from "50/50 (or better)" to "no chance"?
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
As for 'the trash talk between Stan and Mirka', it's the reality.
The_18th_Slam
Hall of Fame
Yes, and so is Federer and Wawrinka hugging, kissing, and falling all over one another even after the spat.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
The_18th_Slam
Hall of Fame
Why the eye-roll? It's the reality.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Could you post a photo as an evidence.
The_18th_Slam
Hall of Fame
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
The video you posted was filmed much later.
Mrs.Mirka couldn’t keep her mouth shut during the match between Fed and Waw at the 2014 WTF and called Waw ‘CryBaby’ after he complained about that.
Eye to eye:
Alfred Chicken
Rookie
How in the world did you even make it past online registration, I wonder...
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The_18th_Slam
Hall of Fame
So?
I already knew this. Mirka should have kept her mouth shut.Mrs.Mirka couldn’t keep her mouth shut during the match between Fed and Waw at the 2014 WTF and called Waw ‘CryBaby’ after he complained about that.
Eye to eye:
