Fed fans would you want him to make the F ?

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
If Djokovic is there waiting ? Yes I know he would have a chance at 21 slams and in W19 he lost while playing better just unclutch but this Fed isn’t even near the level of 19 and it would be a expected loss to Djokovic.

Now I never let Fed fans have the excuse for old for W14 and 15 but to be fair if lost there would be no shame as he is nearly 40 and it would show his greatness getting to a W F at that age.
Now I don’t think he’ll make it but if he does.

Most likely Djokovic will go 4-1 against him at his slam, even though it would be expected and no shame in losing to a 34 year old Nole on for CYGS but the numbers still look bad.
The positive is Fed would have nothing to lose as everyone would expect the loss and it might help his legacy.

Obviously the answer would be yes to make the final but I mean in the way a loss to Djokovic would be never in doubt would you rather someone else to try and stop Djokovic and save a loss or just him being there ?
 

Lleytonstation

Talk Tennis Guru
Yes.

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pj80

Legend
If Djokovic is there waiting ? Yes I know he would have a chance at 21 slams and in W19 he lost while playing better just unclutch but this Fed isn’t even near the level of 19 and it would be a expected loss to Djokovic.

Now I never let Fed fans have the excuse for old for W14 and 15 but to be fair if lost there would be no shame as he is nearly 40 and it would show his greatness getting to a W F at that age.
Now I don’t think he’ll make it but if he does.

Most likely Djokovic will go 4-1 against him at his slam, even though it would be expected and no shame in losing to a 34 year old Nole on for CYGS but the numbers still look bad.
The positive is Fed would have nothing to lose as everyone would expect the loss and it might help his legacy.

Obviously the answer would be yes to make the final but I mean in the way a loss to Djokovic would be never in doubt would you rather someone else to try and stop Djokovic and save a loss or just him being there ?
Nothing is guaranteed...Fed can certainly beat Djoker if both were to play in the final.
 

BGod

G.O.A.T.
I said the same in 2019 but the issue there was Nadal in the semis. So between losing to Nadal I SF or Novak in F the choice was clear.

But with the draw now absolutely not.

Much prefer Felix as a Canadian to make it or even Berrettini. They'll both lose of course anyway.

But I stick to my point years ago, Fed should have retired after 2012. Yes 17-18 was great but it only delayed Nadal/Novak passing him by 2 years? And even so, surely after 2018 he could have hung it up and then we wouldn't have that 40-15 part III.
 

Kralingen

Talk Tennis Guru
Federer has a far better shot of winning this tournament than you naysayers believe.

He’s getting better every match. He will have the loudest crowd of his entire career behind him. Djokovic is good, but Federer knows he has the talent to take him apart, even at his age. Why would you not want a chance at #21 and the most iconic win in tennis history?
 

Strale

Semi-Pro
If Federer wins it would be a huge boost in his goat case because of his age and obviously 21 slam.

But if he loses it will bury him forever as weak era champ and inferior player...

It will make him or break him.That is my opinion.
 

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
Federer has a far better shot of winning this tournament than you naysayers believe.

He’s getting better every match. He will have the loudest crowd of his entire career behind him. Djokovic is good, but Federer knows he has the talent to take him apart, even at his age. Why would you not want a chance at #21 and the most iconic win in tennis history?
Even though I opened the thread and still feel this isn’t W19 if Djokovic and Fed meet in the F it be a easy win for Djokovic. But I agree this reminds me of the AO 20 where Fed was only coming back from injury and nearly lost to Sandaren and was playing so poor yet it took Djokovic to stop him and he went up 4-1 in first set.
I meant a loss to Djokovic in F or not make it mostly what is better ?
 
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Deleted member 771911

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No. It would be a stain on the sport. Someone has to be competent enough to defeat Federer before the final or what does it tell us? We already knew Federer was great and the tour generally sucked so I guess it tells us zero.
 

egrorian

Rookie
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If Federer wins it would be a huge boost in his goat case because of his age and obviously 21 slam.

But if he loses it will bury him forever as weak era champ and inferior player...

It will make him or break him.That is my opinion.
Of course Federer would love to win, that would be incredible but really, losing a Wimbledon final at almost 40 years old hardly breaks his legacy in any way.
 

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
Do you want Djokovic to make finals at age 40 if he does not have any chance ?
I personally don’t want Djokovic to be playing anywhere near that age. Fed game is more equipped with getting older than Djokovic and I feel Nole will fall off at 36/37
 

bnjkn

Professional
Federer has a far better shot of winning this tournament than you naysayers believe.

He’s getting better every match. He will have the loudest crowd of his entire career behind him. Djokovic is good, but Federer knows he has the talent to take him apart, even at his age. Why would you not want a chance at #21 and the most iconic win in tennis history?
I'm with you. I really don't get it.
 

BGod

G.O.A.T.
Do you want Djokovic to make finals at age 40 if he does not have any chance ?

I want Novak to retire at 37 with 25 Slams.

Federer has a far better shot of winning this tournament than you naysayers believe.

He’s getting better every match. He will have the loudest crowd of his entire career behind him. Djokovic is good, but Federer knows he has the talent to take him apart, even at his age. Why would you not want a chance at #21 and the most iconic win in tennis history?

Let me tell you a story. There was once a man named Ken Rosewall. He won back to back AOs at age 36 & 37. Then he made back to back Slam Finals at age 39. He was obliterated in both those Finals.

If Federer wins it would be a huge boost in his goat case because of his age and obviously 21 slam.

But if he loses it will bury him forever as weak era champ and inferior player...

It will make him or break him.That is my opinion.

Nah, he's not the GOAT and winning this Wimbledon won't save his legacy. Novak will still get the big records and still have triple 40-15 against him.
 

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
Looks like you are after numbers than seeing watch your players' highlights.
Nope I just admitted that Fed’s game suits age than Djokodal will. I love watching Djokovic for the all round game, the crazy gets, unmatched level of just making the game look easy(also making overheads look hard).

There is no way in hell he would be able to do any of that near 40 and will be 100% retired. Yes sports science and nutrition have made athletes last longer than before but even Djokovic’s work ethic won’t overcome 40
 

Strale

Semi-Pro
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Of course Federer would love to win, that would be incredible but really, losing a Wimbledon final at almost 40 years old hardly breaks his legacy in any way.
Age is not an excuse...If you cant play retire.Federer is obviously elite athlete and if he reaches finals that means he was the best in his part of the draw.

As for the legacy he will not be the grass goat because there was someone better than him at that surface...

Losing four times to one player in finals will put a huge question mark on his grass goat claim...
 

RF6777

Semi-Pro
Djokovic is not lock for the final...
Shapo can beat him...
Though djoker is favourite...shapo can still beat him
 

ND-13

Hall of Fame
Nope I just admitted that Fed’s game suits age than Djokodal will. I love watching Djokovic for the all round game, the crazy gets, unmatched level of just making the game look easy(also making overheads look hard).

There is no way in hell he would be able to do any of that near 40 and will be 100% retired. Yes sports science and nutrition have made athletes last longer than before but even Djokovic’s work ethic won’t overcome 40

It is not that Federer is the same as he was...

You still enjoy their best and ignore their mistakes. I would want to see Djokovic as long as he can play at a relatively competitive level.
 

Krish0608

G.O.A.T.
If Federer wins it would be a huge boost in his goat case because of his age and obviously 21 slam.

But if he loses it will bury him forever as weak era champ and inferior player...

It will make him or break him.That is my opinion.
LOL. A 40 year old has no business being in 2nd week, let alone in the final. If Fed makes the Final here (which I doubt), it just proves how great he is, irrespective of how he does against Djokovic.
 

dudeski

Hall of Fame
Every match Fed wins he breaks another record so of course I want him to make it to a final. Yes, I would love Djokovic to be his opponent because then no matter who wins Nadal is no longer in any running for the GOAT:
1. Novak wins --> He ties Nadal for 20 slams but already beats him in H2H, weeks and years at #1, etc.
2. Feder wins --> He gets #21 which is ahead of Nadal and thus puts Fed ahead once again.
Thus win - win no matter what happens.
 

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
Djokovic is not lock for the final...
Shapo can beat him...
Though djoker is favourite...shapo can still beat him
Of course he can beat him. Shapo is playing so well but his strengths play to Djokovic’s strengths and I feel Nole will expose his weaknesses
 

Feather

Legend
I said the same in 2019 but the issue there was Nadal in the semis. So between losing to Nadal I SF or Novak in F the choice was clear.

But with the draw now absolutely not.

Much prefer Felix as a Canadian to make it or even Berrettini. They'll both lose of course anyway.

But I stick to my point years ago, Fed should have retired after 2012. Yes 17-18 was great but it only delayed Nadal/Novak passing him by 2 years? And even so, surely after 2018 he could have hung it up and then we wouldn't have that 40-15 part III.

As a Roger Federer fan, that too diehard, I totally disagree with this. He won three majors. That's as much as Andy Murray won in his entire career!
 

egrorian

Rookie
Age is not an excuse...If you cant play retire.Federer is obviously elite athlete and if he reaches finals that means he was the best in his part of the draw.

As for the legacy he will not be the grass goat because there was someone better than him at that surface...

Losing four times to one player in finals will put a huge question mark on his grass goat claim...

I totally disagree. Federer doesn't need an excuse if he loses. Making the final at almost 40 would be a remarkable achievement and only enhances his greatness. However, he's got to win two more matches so all this is totally hypothetical.
 

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
Lol fed at his peak would have crushed djoker, even on these ultra slow courts Roger can inflict pain
I’ve watched both and yes would of beat that Djokovic in his prime I agree but that was a 32 year old Djokovic so he is hardly in his prime too. Also you would expect Fed to be beating out of prime Djokovic in W if he was in his prime.

Djokovic at his slam has been schooling Fed since it was Peak Fed against a young Djokovic.

I always see these things brought up, not just by Fed fans by every fan base and it makes no sense. Fed in his prime would obviously beat a 32 year old Djokovic at W
Djokovic in his prime would beat any Fed at AO
Nadal in his prime would beat both at RG regardless. No point in arguing it.
 

wang07

Semi-Pro
Fed isn’t even near the level of 19 and it would be a expected loss to Djokovic.
I mean it's not like 2019 was an unexpected loss, the way it turned out just changed the narrative. Djokovic was the clear favourite 2 years ago and will be even more of a favourite should this matchup happen again.

That said of course I want Fed to get there, anything is possible and he's shown many times that writing him off is the worst mistake one could make. I'll still root for him like crazy if he gets to the final. The idea that losing Slam finals would diminish the legacy is just ridiculous to me.
 

pj80

Legend
I mean it's not like 2019 was an unexpected loss, the way it turned out just changed the narrative. Djokovic was the clear favourite 2 years ago and will be even more of a favourite should this matchup happen again.

That said of course I want Fed to get there, anything is possible and he's shown many times that writing him off is the worst mistake one could make. I'll still root for him like crazy if he gets to the final. The idea that losing Slam finals would diminish the legacy is just ridiculous to me.
I think Fed does a good job flying under the radar, similar to 2011 RG SF
 

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
It is not that Federer is the same as he was...

You still enjoy their best and ignore their mistakes. I would want to see Djokovic as long as he can play at a relatively competitive level.
No I know that Fed isn’t the same what I mean is I hope Djokovic isn’t still playing at 40 as it be pointless he would be declined so much and he should be enjoying his retirement
 

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
I mean it's not like 2019 was an unexpected loss, the way it turned out just changed the narrative. Djokovic was the clear favourite 2 years ago and will be even more of a favourite should this matchup happen again.

That said of course I want Fed to get there, anything is possible and he's shown many times that writing him off is the worst mistake one could make. I'll still root for him like crazy if he gets to the final. The idea that losing Slam finals would diminish the legacy is just ridiculous to me.
It wasn’t unexpected. Fed playing so well and Djokovic playing only ok was the reason. This year Fed isn’t capable of playing that well not writing him off it’s just facts.
 

Strale

Semi-Pro
LOL. A 40 year old has no business being in 2nd week, let alone in the final. If Fed makes the Final here (which I doubt), it just proves how great he is, irrespective of how he does against Djokovic.
Nah it proves that he is inferior player if he loses...You cant have it both ways...incredible if he wins and incredible if he loses...Sorry
 

Strale

Semi-Pro
I totally disagree. Federer doesn't need an excuse if he loses. Making the final at almost 40 would be a remarkable achievement and only enhances his greatness. However, he's got to win two more matches so all this is totally hypothetical.
Double edged sword in the end but i respect your opinion.
 

T007

Hall of Fame
Yes, and I will be disappointed if Djokovic is not there. Bring it on.
Definitely he will be there playing journeymans like Fuscovic,Shapo/Karen.

Federers apperance is not guaranteed as he could lose to Med/Berrettini. The two most inform players at the moment left in the draw.
 
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