Federer donates 1 million CHF to Swiss families suffering from coronavirus

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Bumbaliceps

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Oh you’re being Mr. Compassionate now? After dissing a man who donated a million dollars to charity? Please
You read wrong I am not dissing him. I say this is good from him but nothing impressive because one million for him is nothing. Easy for him. If he was generous he would have given 10 millions or something.
Compassionate? Lol. I am worried man I don't want to sleep in the street next year.
 
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red rook

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If that is your angle, your narratives are contradictory. A million is a lot of money, even for Roger Federer. It’s not like he scraped that off the bottom of his shoe.

We are all apprehensive about the future - at least he is doing something. I haven’t given 1% of my net worth and I certainly won’t be dogging anyone who gives anything to charity, not 1 dollar, not 1 million dollars.
 

tudwell

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No privacy in that house. You can see into every room! :unsure:
But only if you own the $500 million home next door.
 

fedfan08

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Ideally, you should give anonymously, but I think the calculus for public figures is a little different than for the rest of us. If Federer gives anonymously, people will assume he didn't give and wonder why somebody in his position isn't being charitable with his wealth. The cynical view -- appropriate in many cases, sure -- is that wealthy individuals announce their contributions for PR-related reasons, but I think there is at least some justification for making their contributions publicly known. I'm also aware that disclosing donations to avoid accusations of not giving is also -- technically -- a PR-related reason, but it's reasonable and fair to want to avoid unwarranted criticism.

I also do think contributions from high-profile individuals galvanize other high-profile individuals to do likewise. Again, some cynicism about their motivations is warranted, but we can all agree giving something is better than giving nothing.

Of course, there's a separate discussion to be had about how much Roger (and other rich folks) should be paying in taxes, but this isn't the appropriate forum for that discussion.
Unless you live in Switzerland what business is it of yours how much Federer pays in taxes?
 

mahesh69a

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A great gesture, but I do wonder why these people choose to announce it to the world. Just do it anonymously.

This is why I feel Robin Williams is a bigger legend than the world feels he is. He did so many things without spotlight.

When he committed suicide, so many people came out and said how generous he was (with time and money) and how he helped them personally.
(Just get onto youtube - type Robin Williams and see how others speak of him, in general)

(Also, fondness of Robin is the one topic that even terrorists and US army agree upon - just google and see the true purpose of art/showbiz, be it sport or films - it could be a common ground for people with radically different views)
 
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Bumbaliceps

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Please share with us how much Nadal has donated to those suffering from the virus. He spent today posting photos of himself on his Instagram:

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https://www.essentiallysports.com/r...uring-break-atp-coronavirus-tennis-news-2020/
Not everyone is looking at tennis in a binary way like you. If you hate Nadal so much that you can't understand a discussion about Federer outside of the prism of "I love Roger/Rafa so I hate Rafa/Roger" then that is your problem. I am not writing this because of an agenda against Federer. There is absolutely no reason to bring Nadal in the discussion. You are the one to make it into a fans war. You have never seen me writing anywhere that Nadal is a generous man.
 
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Crionics

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This is cool but this is not a great act of generosity. It doesn't cost him anything.

Not quite, he gave away 0.1% of his net worth, hehe.. To put things into perspective if you were a millionnaire, it would be like giving away 1'000, peanuts basically
 

Crionics

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yeah me too, somebody from switzerland wanna explain a bit;) ?

There are plenty of poor people in Switzerland. Everything is goddam expensive in this country, you don't even realize if you have never been in this country. Usually divorced people are hit very hard financially, especially single moms with children.

Just some exemple of high costs (1CHF is approximately 1 USD at the moment): I pay close to 6000 CHF per year for my health insurance and the insurance deductible is 2500 CHF. And it doesn't even cover proper dentalcare costs. In the last few years I have been close to paying 10'000 CHF per year just for my health (health insurance + medical costs + dental costs)
If you have a child, putting them to the nursery can cost up to 3000 CHF per month. I don't have children yet, but I know I will bleed financially when I will have kids.
Housing is also expensive. It depends of course on the area where you live, but for a 3-rooms flat you can easily pay 1500-2000 CHF per month.
For all the talks about Switzerland being a rich country, there are very few home-owners, much less than in other european countries like France. Most people simply cannot afford to buy their own house/flat. A colleague of mine is buying a house in France close to the swiss border. He is paying 400'000 EUR (approximately 440'000 USD). He was saying if he wanted to buy a similar house in Switzerland it would cost him 1.5 to 2 millions CHF.

So imagine living in Switzerland being a cashier, earning 4000 CHF per month and on top of that being a single mom (or dad) with children...
 
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stringertom

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Not quite, he gave away 0.1% of his net worth, hehe.. To put things into perspective if you were a millionnaire, it would be like giving away 1'000, peanuts basically
To go along with something like now up to $50MM a year for nearly two decades to the RFF. That has been his choice of venue to help the many more very destitute in his mother’s native country South Africa and surrounding developing nations.
 

blablavla

G.O.A.T.
Which world are you living in ? A lot of people would kill for 1000 bucks. There was already no job to get and Coronavirus only makes it 10 times worse. "go get a job" LOL

Many small companies are gonna close and many people will be homeless because the economy is just DOWN, people have to stay at home in some countries just like mine you know?

When I read stuff like this I understand why most people have such a bad opinion about the tennis world. Go to hell man.

dude, it's not all about donating money.
you can't donate 1 Million? no problem, go help your neighbours, or people in need. When did you last time help someone who needs help? be it a human being, or an animal?
 

mxmx

Hall of Fame
Matthew 6: 3. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4. so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

But saying that, I can understand if they reveal this publically, have the intention to encourage others to do the same. For all we know Federer gave 10 million in secret as well....
 

Crionics

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To go along with something like now up to $50MM a year for nearly two decades to the RFF. That has been his choice of venue to help the many more very destitute in his mother’s native country South Africa and surrounding developing nations.

I didn't really look into detail, but are you sure 50 millions per year are going to his foundation? I had the feeling it was more in the range of 5 millions per year. If I am not mistaken most of the money that flows to his foundation comes from the exhibition matches not from his personal bank account. But correct me if I am wrong.
 

stringertom

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I didn't really look into detail, but are you sure 50 millions per year are going to his foundation? I had the feeling it was more in the range of 5 millions per year. If I am not mistaken most of the money that flows to his foundation comes from the exhibition matches not from his personal bank account. But correct me if I am wrong.
One source I read (South China Morning Post) cited that number for 2019. $300MM contracts for clothing endorsements does free up philanthropic potential
 
Those persons at the Swiss public health committee, and the Swiss red cross, probably laughed out loud, when they heard about the striking sum of 1 million CHF that the Swiss billionaire Fed was prepared to donate in the fight against Coronavirus. :oops:
Or cried out loud, for that matter...
 

junior74

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Those persons at the Swiss public health committee, and the Swiss red cross, probably laughed out loud, when they heard about the striking sum of 1 million CHF that the Swiss billionaire Fed was prepared to donate in the fight against Coronavirus. :oops:
Or cried out loud, for that matter...

"Our contribution is just a start. We hope that others might join in supporting more families in need. Together we can overcome this crisis! Stay healthy!"
 

Bumbaliceps

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dude, it's not all about donating money.
you can't donate 1 Million? no problem, go help your neighbours, or people in need. When did you last time help someone who needs help? be it a human being, or an animal?
Wow now you are supposing I don't care about people. You just don't know me at all. This is incredibly unfair from you. I have always been caring and giving help whenever I can, many times while knowing it would be at my expense. I shouldn't have to say this kind of personal stuff here but you are forcing me because you are trying to tell me I'm bad. You're bad.
 

blablavla

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Wow now you are supposing I don't care about people. You just don't know me at all. This is incredibly unfair from you. I have always been caring and giving help whenever I can, many times while knowing it would be at my expense. I shouldn't have to say this kind of personal stuff here but you are forcing me because you are trying to tell me I'm bad. You're bad.

likewise from you to make such judgement about a pro athlete who voluntarily helps the community:
This is incredibly unfair from you
 

blablavla

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Those persons at the Swiss public health committee, and the Swiss red cross, probably laughed out loud, when they heard about the striking sum of 1 million CHF that the Swiss billionaire Fed was prepared to donate in the fight against Coronavirus. :oops:
Or cried out loud, for that matter...

ammmmmm.
dude, could you please remind how much did you donate?
or how are you helping those in need?
or shall we all collectively cry out loud that instead of helping those in need you are wasting your time blaming those who do something?
 

Bumbaliceps

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likewise from you to make such judgement about a pro athlete who voluntarily helps the community:
This is incredibly unfair from you
What judgement did I make? I repeated many times this was a good gesture from him, just nothing generous. He just did a right move. Yet you read "Federer is a piece of shiit for not giving all of his money". Basically my statement is Roger is not God.
 

blablavla

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What judgement did I make? I repeated many times this was a good gesture from him, just nothing generous. He just did a right move. Yet you read "Federer is a piece of shiit for not giving all of his money". Basically my statement is Roger is not God.

tell me the below is not a judgement
This is cool but this is not a great act of generosity. It doesn't cost him anything.

so before making such judgement, do you perhaps want to share the list of your help to society and some facts that we can measure who is more generous, you or Roger?
When I give 10 euros to a homeless man, I am being more generous than Roger because in my life every euro matters.
 

magnut

Hall of Fame
Fedr could have donated all his money yet TTW's finest selection of morons would blame him.

a lot of it is people are sick of all these celebrities and athletes preaching to them while haveing the good for me but not for thee attitude. In other words they are elitists. Preaching about carbon footprints while trying to decide which helicopter and jet to buy. Or siding with open borders and letting,migrant run rampant while they have walls around their mansions. Or saying nobody should,have,guns meanwhile they have a small army of armed security guarding them and their property.

The list goes on and on. People are sick of elitism and celebrity worship is becoming less and less popular. I have more respect for plumbers working crappy hours to provide for family than I do for celebrities who have live in nannys while the wife is at the spa all day. These people are narcisists and could care less about anybody but themselves. Federer cares about Federer. I doubt he even wrote that. These people have press agents that do all this. The pay organizations that employ people to go online and talk about how great they are.

Look at Tom Hanks..... people think he is this great honest person LOL. Just a normal guy who cares about people when he is anything but. He is a weirdo.
 

Bumbaliceps

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tell me the below is not a judgement


so before making such judgement, do you perhaps want to share the list of your help to society and some facts that we can measure who is more generous, you or Roger?
Yes I stand to what you quoted. I am more generous and most people who just give tiny pieces of themselves are more generous than billionaires who give one million of the money they don't deserve. No one deserve such money and people like Roger should understand that. Yes giving 10 euros to a homeless person when you just have enough to pay for the bills and the food is more generous than giving a million when you are a billionaire. And I don't know how stating a million is nothing for him is making a bad judgment since it is nothing but the truth.
 
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blablavla

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Yes I stand to what you quoted. I am more generous and most people who just give tiny pieces of themselves are more generous than billionaires who give one million of the money they don't deserve. No one deserve such money and people like Roger should understand that. Yes giving 10 euros to a homeless person when you just have enough to pay for the bills and the food is more generous than giving a million when you are a billionaire. And I don't know how stating a million is nothing for him is making a bad judgment since it is nothing but the truth.

1. I hope you understand the difference between having a net worth estimated at somewhere close to 1 billion and having 1 billion in cash on your bank account.
2. this is not the only issue where he donates money and draws attention to, so before judging who is more generous, try to sum up everything together
 

Bumbaliceps

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1. I hope you understand the difference between having a net worth estimated at somewhere close to 1 billion and having 1 billion in cash on your bank account.
2. this is not the only issue where he donates money and draws attention to, so before judging who is more generous, try to sum up everything together
Keep worship your God.
 
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