Federer is not the greatest athlete ever...
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grafselesfan
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Mickelson and Els are not fit at all, in fact they are in gross shape especialy Mickelson, and they are the 3rd and 4th (probably) greatest golfers of this generation after Woods and maybe Singh.
at least in bowling you have to pick up something heavy though. ahha
BorisBeckerFan
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I wonder how any of the atheletes mentioned in this thread would fair in the Roman Colosseum as a gladiator fighting to the death. That taxed almost every athletic category. Strength, speed, agility, jumping, craftiness, witts, hand coordination, stamina, endurance, mental fortitude, etc... These people were in a fight for their lives and I don't mean that figuratively.
FedFan_2009
Banned
Flavius Maximus was the GOAT... Screw Jim Brown.
Tennis_Bum
Professional
If posting is a sport, I will vote you as the "greatest athlete ever" for the # of posts that you manage to put out a day. No one will be able to come close to your talents.
boojay
Hall of Fame
True dat.
Don't get me wrong, golf can be fun and challenging, I'm sure, but a sport it is not.
boojay
Hall of Fame
As much as I love Fed, I can't argue with this. Jordan is the standard of greatness by which all other athletes are measured against (i.e. he's the Michael Jordan of this or that.)
Like it or not, what you or I do on a golf course is not what THEY do on a golf course. They are athletes unfit and not, like there are unfit baseball players and relatively unfit tennis players. The hand-eye, balance, timing, torque they create, repetitively, under changing weather conditions, creating shots and concentrating and performing under competitve pressure for long hours for days straight, we tend to take for granted, definitely qualifies it as a sport. Theire abilities are singular, it's the reason Michael Jordan or other great athletes most who have actually played the sport for decades or since high school at least simply can't master it on that level, ever. Sorry while many fail to recognize or appreciate its unique physical and mental demands, golf is most definitely a sport.
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britbox
Rookie
Lol. I guess they don't play sport outside of North America.
jamesblakefan#1
G.O.A.T.
It was chosen by American sportswriters, so that explains the lack of international athletes.
BTW, Sampras is #48 on the list (this is before he had 14, since the list is from 2000), and Navratilova is #19, Chris Evert is #50. Bill Tilden is #45.
BorisBeckerFan
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Where this a sheer worldwide popularity vote I would venture to say only 3 or 4 of the ones on the espn list would make the top ten with the rest being soccer players like Pele, Zidane etc...
380pistol
Banned
If we're going with tennis, Steffi Graf should lead all tennis players, and quite esily. We all know here repetoire as a tennis player, but even during her prime the German Federeration wanted her to quit tennis.
When another tennis player's natie land's governing athletic ability asks then to quit a HOF career mid way through to do another sport, then holla at me. Until then.....
Steffi Graf > anyone who ever hoisted a racquet
When another tennis player's natie land's governing athletic ability asks then to quit a HOF career mid way through to do another sport, then holla at me. Until then.....
Steffi Graf > anyone who ever hoisted a racquet
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wangs78
Legend
Well said. I completely agree.
FedFan_2009
Banned
Or maybe this thread is total ********, and I never should have created it. I'm such an idiot.
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
If we are judging pure athletic ability, Ruth being on that list--and above Ali--is a joke.
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THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
Ah
The list really needs an update (especially where tennis players are concerned) and a second look at some of their choices.
TsongaEatingAPineappleLol
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I think Michael Jordon easily greatest.
britbox
Rookie
A few others that have been overlooked and spring to mind:
Eddy Mercx (cycling)
Steffi Graf (tennis),
Jahingir Khan (squash)
Daley Thompson (athletics - decathlon)
Jackie Joyner-Kersee (athletics)
Carl Lewis (athletics)
Ray Robinson (boxing)
Gareth Edwards (rugby union)
Don Bradman (cricket)
Eddy Mercx (cycling)
Steffi Graf (tennis),
Jahingir Khan (squash)
Daley Thompson (athletics - decathlon)
Jackie Joyner-Kersee (athletics)
Carl Lewis (athletics)
Ray Robinson (boxing)
Gareth Edwards (rugby union)
Don Bradman (cricket)
FedFan_2009
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Takeru Kobyashi(competitive eater)
Arguing GOAT in regards to tennis is a big enough stretch in terms of federer's acomplishments. Comparing sports is simply IMPOSSIBLE. You just can't compare athletes from different sports. There are way too many variables.
And just FYI fedfan if you haven't heard (i know you were sarcastic) but kobyashi has lost the last 3 events to an american.
And just FYI fedfan if you haven't heard (i know you were sarcastic) but kobyashi has lost the last 3 events to an american.
deltox
Hall of Fame
the greatest pure athlete since the year 2000 is not gonna be well known for it until his career is deeper and maybe even retired.
Julius Peppers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Peppers
6' 7" 283 lbs.
it takes a serious athlete to play NFL ball at his level. He has better speed at his size than most starting running backs in the league, he was a WALK ON STARTER for the mens basketball team at UNC Chapel Hill. Do i need to discuss the depth of that basketball roster?
State champion SPRINTER ( 6"5" 240lbs at this time of his life) for the High School track team.
His first love is basketball and literally got paid more to play his second sport.
This is probably the best pure athlete of our time currently and possibly ever.
in current tennis that honor would be for noone else but Gael Monfils.
Julius Peppers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Peppers
6' 7" 283 lbs.
it takes a serious athlete to play NFL ball at his level. He has better speed at his size than most starting running backs in the league, he was a WALK ON STARTER for the mens basketball team at UNC Chapel Hill. Do i need to discuss the depth of that basketball roster?
State champion SPRINTER ( 6"5" 240lbs at this time of his life) for the High School track team.
His first love is basketball and literally got paid more to play his second sport.
This is probably the best pure athlete of our time currently and possibly ever.
in current tennis that honor would be for noone else but Gael Monfils.
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deltox
Hall of Fame
add to that list
michael phelps
Cal Rikpen Jr
Vince Carter
Lance Armstrong
and Wade Boggs and ill agree with your list =)
ChanceEncounter
Professional
By what standard are we measuring athletes? Raw athletic ability? Multi-sport mastery? Dominance over peers?
For the first, I definitely have to submit Bo Jackson to the list. That guy was as much of a physical specimen as there ever was.
For the first, I definitely have to submit Bo Jackson to the list. That guy was as much of a physical specimen as there ever was.
grafselesfan
Banned
Judged on pure athletic ability for Graf to not even make the list and King to make the top 60 and Evert to make the top 50 is a joke. Evert is an amazing tennis player, but even by her own admission isnt one of the greatest pure athletes, although certainly a good own. King is a very good athlete in some respects, but she is smallish and heavily underpowered physically compared to Graf. Graf should be right up with Navratilova on the list based on pure athletic ability.
grafselesfan
Banned
Actually in terms of pure athletic ability the Williams belong on the list far more than Evert or King, but of course the list was made before this decade. Court is also easily a superior "athlete" to either Evert or King, even if Evert possibly ranks higher all time as a tennis player.
Jahingir Khan didnt lose a match for five years. He won 555 matches consecutively
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