Forget equal pay for men and women, equal pay for Doubles and Singles

[Deleted member 25923]

I believe there should be equal pay for doubles and singles.

I believe that the actual prize money for winning a doubles tournament should be 2 times that of the single's prize money. This way, the team that wins splits the money and it gives equality to doubles and singles. A number one doubles player should be eligible to make the same money that a number 1 singles player can make.

 

[circusmouse]

Next step: equal pay for winners and losers. Group hug!

 

[Supernatural_Serve]

We're still working on getting a little TV coverage for doubles.

 

[superstition]

If doubles is going to be taken seriously, the matches must be longer. No "finishing points". No tie-breaks at the end of every set. Best of 5 sets for slam semis and finals. I think 5 set matches should be eliminated for singles (except in finals), but for doubles they are not so bad.

Mixed needs to give male players only one serve when serving to women. Why this hasn't happened is mind-boggling.

 

[Deleted member 25923]

If doubles is going to be taken seriously, the matches must be longer. No "finishing points". No tie-breaks at the end of every set. Best of 5 sets for slam semis and finals. I think 5 set matches should be eliminated for singles (except in finals), but for doubles they are not so bad.

Mixed needs to give male players only one serve when serving to women. Why this hasn't happened is mind-boggling.

Agreed, go back to normal doubles.

 

[Ethan04]

Singles, men dbl, women dbl, and mixed dbl are all different and unique, and therefore it's ok to have different pay.

If equal pay for all, one would argue why not equal pay for juniors and senior tour.

 

[NamRanger]

If doubles is going to be taken seriously, the matches must be longer. No "finishing points". No tie-breaks at the end of every set. Best of 5 sets for slam semis and finals. I think 5 set matches should be eliminated for singles (except in finals), but for doubles they are not so bad.

Mixed needs to give male players only one serve when serving to women. Why this hasn't happened is mind-boggling.

That is actually a good idea (the Mixed rule where men only get one serve to women). That way they can't destroy you.

 

[Belmonte13]

women should have to play best of 5 sets to get the same pay as men. and i don't want to hear all those scientific facts that they cant do the same things physically as men.....just accept the inferiority already!!

 

[kungfusmkim]

You have to be kidding me you dont even have that much pressure in doubles than in singles any ways Doubles has never changed or went through a phase its still in the S&V mode where that the only way youll win the points.

 

[Nadal_Monfils]

Equal pay is about entertainment value. Doubles isn't even shown on television and the stands usually aren't very full for doubles matches. Singles is much more popular and draws more money.

 

[consistency wins]

I believe there should be equal pay for doubles and singles.

I believe that the actual prize money for winning a doubles tournament should be 2 times that of the single's prize money. This way, the team that wins splits the money and it gives equality to doubles and singles. A number one doubles player should be eligible to make the same money that a number 1 singles player can make.

Face it--the Bryan brothers are the only doubles couple on the PLANET that have even generated ANY interest in the game of doubles in the last five years. Until more teams come along with flare and the ability for the public to have interest in them--the game of doubles in terms of televised coverage and equal pay is just dead.

 

[Sentinel]

That is actually a good idea (the Mixed rule where men only get one serve to women). That way they can't destroy you.

With the possible exception of Elena Dementieva, who should be allowed only one serve, regardless of what gender she is serving too, so she can't destroy you.

 

[FEDEXP]

Oh come on, doubles is fun to play but who watches it?

 

[ruski07]

women should have to play best of 5 sets to get the same pay as men. and i don't want to hear all those scientific facts that they cant do the same things physically as men.....just accept the inferiority already!!

yep agreed

 

[Grimjack]

As soon as you're a billionaire industrialist who can single-handedly foot the bill for giving the doubles teams twice as much coin as the singles champs, go ahead and do so.

Because the market sure as hell isn't going to provide that kind of prize money to a pseudo-sport that nobody gives a #### about, no advertisers want their products associated with, and no media will cover.

They ought to get rid of the doubles prizes they have already, and put the money that's currently going to waste paying for these third-and-fourth class players to put on their glorified exhibitions to use in the singles draw. That way, REAL up and coming players would have a better shot at making a living at the game early on, the depth of the tour would increase markedly, and the sport of tennis would have some hope of drawing real athletes away from other sports where the pay is far better.

The current, woeful state of tennis, and its inevitable demise on the world stage, is in large part DUE to the continued and foolish coddling of the doubles players. They have no talent, and no support from fans and advertisers. Get rid of the whole sham of a sport, and tennis improves 10x overnight.

When club-pro-level hacks like the Bryans are your "stars," your sport is a joke.

 

[sureshs]

Don't extrapolate from the US to other countries. Tennis is big elsewhere. Some money can be saved by eliminating doubles and piping it to singles, but I doubt that will make a huge impact on the tennis scene.

 

[jmverdugo]

As soon as you're a billionaire industrialist who can single-handedly foot the bill for giving the doubles teams twice as much coin as the singles champs, go ahead and do so.

Because the market sure as hell isn't going to provide that kind of prize money to a pseudo-sport that nobody gives a #### about, no advertisers want their products associated with, and no media will cover.

They ought to get rid of the doubles prizes they have already, and put the money that's currently going to waste paying for these third-and-fourth class players to put on their glorified exhibitions to use in the singles draw. That way, REAL up and coming players would have a better shot at making a living at the game early on, the depth of the tour would increase markedly, and the sport of tennis would have some hope of drawing real athletes away from other sports where the pay is far better.

The current, woeful state of tennis, and its inevitable demise on the world stage, is in large part DUE to the continued and foolish coddling of the doubles players. They have no talent, and no support from fans and advertisers. Get rid of the whole sham of a sport, and tennis improves 10x overnight.

When club-pro-level hacks like the Bryans are your "stars," your sport is a joke.

Well that is your opinion, I wouldnt go with as much as to pay the doubles as much as the single players but I think they should get mote coverage. They do have talent and a lot of it, they may not have a lot fan support but it may be due to the lack of coverage, it is really the egg and the chicken escenario. However they have sponsorships and are backed up by advertisers, maybe not in the same scale as the big stars but they do have it.

Doubles is also another way of allowing people to earn money playing tennis, you wouldnt beleive the amount of players that get money playing doubles in futures and challengers. If you are out of the singles draw you can get some money on the doubles draw.

 

[10sany1]

I think we need to start with more coverage.

I also think that the lack of stability in the doubles partnering diminishes interest. The Bryan's are great players, but it helps that they have stuck together.

 

[El Diablo]

Shouldn't doubles players get half the pay because they only hit half as many balls, standing around much of the time while the other guy runs after it? And since they stand around so much more, then they don't have to do as much stamina training. On a more serious note, am I the only one who ever studied economics in college? Do YOU get paid the same as anyone else who works the same amount of time? Are you bitter about it??

 

[sureshs]

Shouldn't doubles players get half the pay because they only hit half as many balls, standing around much of the time while the other guy runs after it? And since they stand around so much more, then they don't have to do as much stamina training. On a more serious note, am I the only one who ever studied economics in college? Do YOU get paid the same as anyone else who works the same amount of time? Are you bitter about it??

It depends on the perceived value of the work and how many other can do it, not the hours you put into it. If a tennis pro like Fed practises 5 hours a day, including cross training, there are many poor people who are working multiple jobs and more hours. Or police officers or soldiers on duty. However, Federer gets more money.

It is partly due to who else can do what you can do, and partly to the publicity value (mass appeal)

 

[simi]

Shouldn't doubles players get half the pay because they only hit half as many balls, standing around much of the time while the other guy runs after it? And since they stand around so much more, then they don't have to do as much stamina training...

You obviously don't play doubles. There is very little "standing around".

 

[Fedace]

I disagree with equal pay for doubles and singles. and I play doubles 95% of the time. There is just not enough interest or enough public willing to watch doubles. I also find equal pay for Men and Women ridiculous as well. Men gets many people viewing their tennis while women do not. Men's game has become much more fun and interesting due to efforts to slow it down. perfect example is Wimbledon Final. can any women's match come close even.????????????????

 

[rosenstar]

as many have said, there's just not enough reward for the atp to finance that kind of raise in prize money.

What I would personally like to see is a way of incorperating singles and doubles into the same ranking system, forcing singles players to play doubles and doubles players to play singles. Having doubles players playing singles would add variety to the sport, while the singles players playing doubles would create more doubles fans. Then, since both events would be equally as important, players could recieve equal prize money and recognition. However, this would be a very complicated system to create.