Great Article on the Williams Sisters

Bones08

Professional
Tennis better with successful Williams sistersBy Mark Kreidler
Special to ESPN.com


So the question, naturally, is whether the Williams sisters are really done with tennis this time.

And the answers are:

1) You mean, as opposed to every other time one or the other woman was assumed to be ready to ditch the sport in favor of the vast world of nonspecific celebrity?

and

2) All together, now: Let's hope not.

Tennis is so much more interesting with the Williamses in it, and if you doubt that, consider the wind that abandoned the sails of the Australian Open this week when first Venus, then Serena made an unceremonious exit in the early rounds.

The defeats were troubling for different reasons, but not least of all because they both suggested a sort of semi-dabbling in the sport for the Williamses. Venus, bounced by Bulgarian Tszvetana Pironkova (that's right, I said it) in the first round, hadn't played a competitive match since early fall. Serena's third-round defeat, at the hands of Daniela Hantuchova, wasn't so much a titanic upset as it was confirmation that Serena just isn't fully into it right now.



Stuart Hannagan/Getty Images
Venus Williams (left) lost in the first round of a Grand Slam for the first time since 2001, while Serena has not advanced past the fourth round in the last three majors.Just this time a year ago, Serena was winning the Aussie and essentially re-establishing herself as the greater heir to her sister's place in the tennis pantheon. As Venus' game and interest appeared to wax and wane (waxing highest with the title at Wimbledon), Serena took her intensity and conditioning up a notch. It was as if she would get on top of the tennis world by simply wanting to and committing to the idea.

Now? Not so much. Serena hasn't made it past the fourth round at a major since winning in Melbourne in 2005, and she really looked this week like a player who wasn't ready to go -- a little slow, a little heavy, a little unfocused. She's just not there.

That's not such a shock, actually; it's more that the world outside hard-core tennis fandom is just now catching on to Serena's diminished vigor for the sport. She rightfully was assigned just a 13-seed for the Australian despite being the defending champ, and Hantuchova, at No. 17, didn't constitute a wild surprise as the winner Friday. Serena's overall ranking in the tennis computer system most likely will drop into the 30s, possibly even lower.

But that's the smaller picture. The larger view is the one without the Williams sisters in it, and that's a bleak view indeed.

I don't know what possesses either Venus or Serena to get inspired about tennis, but the sport almost always benefits from that inspiration. These are not only two of the most visible figures in the industry but two of the most fun to watch, to follow and to gossip about. From fashion sense to shopping habits, from fatherly involvement to deep, powerful groundstrokes and closers' mentalities, the Williamses make for great dish -- and sport, on the national and international levels, does not exist without dish.

Also, there's this sort of sense of incompletion with both when it comes to their tennis careers. You are constantly left wondering what either woman might have achieved in the sport had it fully commanded her attention and passion for more than, say, 12 months at a stretch.

Between them, they carry around 11 Grand Slam singles titles and something like $20 million in career earnings just in sanctioned tour money. When they're on their games, they're both incredibly fun to watch. Venus is all range and reach, while Serena runs opponents off the court with her power. Even as it became apparent over the years that Serena was the one with the more merciless kind of killer instinct as a match player, there were those who would rather watch Venus' flowing style of play.

But you always knew not to count on that flow, on that power. You learned a while back that the Williams you saw on the court this month might not be seen again for months. It depended on other things, maybe -- on outside interests or simple boredom with just playing the game. Neither woman ever did make a lasting peace with the single-minded demands of the truly elite athlete.

What that means, in the end, is that they'll both probably wind up being more fully rounded citizens of the planet than they would have otherwise. They might know more things, or they might simply have fun doing other stuff.

The one thing they won't ever be, it now appears clear, is the tennis titans they might have been. You can argue the merits of those decisions all day long as long as everyone agrees with the obvious: The sport sure could have embraced those titans.
 

Bones08

Professional
People don't want to hear the truth. They want to dog the sisters, but when a good articlce comes-you get no responses.
 

Cavaleer

Semi-Pro
Bones08 said:
People don't want to hear the truth. They want to dog the sisters, but when a good articlce comes-you get no responses.


So true, as is the article.

It's very disappointing, especially with Serena. She could have been a Graf/Navratilova/Everett type. Now, she's more like Hingis or Seles, for obviously different reasons. All this meaningless celebrity hustling BS. What a waste.


Cavaleer
 
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AeonT

Guest
Cavaleer said:
So true, as is the article.

It's very disappointing, especially with Serena. She could have been a Graf/Navratilova/Everett type. Now, she's more like Hingis or Seles, for obviously different reasons. All this meaningless celebrity hustling BS. What a waste.


Cavaleer

She's in GREAT company with Seles and Hingis. At least none of these tennis legends have inflated records. Navratilova is way above Graf and Evert. She stands ALONE on top as the greatest.
 
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AeonT

Guest
Bones08 said:
Tennis better with successful Williams sistersBy Mark Kreidler
Special to ESPN.com


So the question, naturally, is whether the Williams sisters are really done with tennis this time.

And the answers are:

1) You mean, as opposed to every other time one or the other woman was assumed to be ready to ditch the sport in favor of the vast world of nonspecific celebrity?

and

2) All together, now: Let's hope not.

Tennis is so much more interesting with the Williamses in it, and if you doubt that, consider the wind that abandoned the sails of the Australian Open this week when first Venus, then Serena made an unceremonious exit in the early rounds.

The defeats were troubling for different reasons, but not least of all because they both suggested a sort of semi-dabbling in the sport for the Williamses. Venus, bounced by Bulgarian Tszvetana Pironkova (that's right, I said it) in the first round, hadn't played a competitive match since early fall. Serena's third-round defeat, at the hands of Daniela Hantuchova, wasn't so much a titanic upset as it was confirmation that Serena just isn't fully into it right now.



Stuart Hannagan/Getty Images
Venus Williams (left) lost in the first round of a Grand Slam for the first time since 2001, while Serena has not advanced past the fourth round in the last three majors.Just this time a year ago, Serena was winning the Aussie and essentially re-establishing herself as the greater heir to her sister's place in the tennis pantheon. As Venus' game and interest appeared to wax and wane (waxing highest with the title at Wimbledon), Serena took her intensity and conditioning up a notch. It was as if she would get on top of the tennis world by simply wanting to and committing to the idea.

Now? Not so much. Serena hasn't made it past the fourth round at a major since winning in Melbourne in 2005, and she really looked this week like a player who wasn't ready to go -- a little slow, a little heavy, a little unfocused. She's just not there.

That's not such a shock, actually; it's more that the world outside hard-core tennis fandom is just now catching on to Serena's diminished vigor for the sport. She rightfully was assigned just a 13-seed for the Australian despite being the defending champ, and Hantuchova, at No. 17, didn't constitute a wild surprise as the winner Friday. Serena's overall ranking in the tennis computer system most likely will drop into the 30s, possibly even lower.

But that's the smaller picture. The larger view is the one without the Williams sisters in it, and that's a bleak view indeed.

I don't know what possesses either Venus or Serena to get inspired about tennis, but the sport almost always benefits from that inspiration. These are not only two of the most visible figures in the industry but two of the most fun to watch, to follow and to gossip about. From fashion sense to shopping habits, from fatherly involvement to deep, powerful groundstrokes and closers' mentalities, the Williamses make for great dish -- and sport, on the national and international levels, does not exist without dish.

Also, there's this sort of sense of incompletion with both when it comes to their tennis careers. You are constantly left wondering what either woman might have achieved in the sport had it fully commanded her attention and passion for more than, say, 12 months at a stretch.

Between them, they carry around 11 Grand Slam singles titles and something like $20 million in career earnings just in sanctioned tour money. When they're on their games, they're both incredibly fun to watch. Venus is all range and reach, while Serena runs opponents off the court with her power. Even as it became apparent over the years that Serena was the one with the more merciless kind of killer instinct as a match player, there were those who would rather watch Venus' flowing style of play.

But you always knew not to count on that flow, on that power. You learned a while back that the Williams you saw on the court this month might not be seen again for months. It depended on other things, maybe -- on outside interests or simple boredom with just playing the game. Neither woman ever did make a lasting peace with the single-minded demands of the truly elite athlete.

What that means, in the end, is that they'll both probably wind up being more fully rounded citizens of the planet than they would have otherwise. They might know more things, or they might simply have fun doing other stuff.

The one thing they won't ever be, it now appears clear, is the tennis titans they might have been. You can argue the merits of those decisions all day long as long as everyone agrees with the obvious: The sport sure could have embraced those titans.

great article. thanks bones.
 
For true tennis fans I don't think it matters whether Serena and Venus are playing, and I'd even go so far to suggest that it makes for more interesting TV coverage. If Serena, Venus, Roddick, and Agassi are all still in a slam the chances of seeing someone else play in the first week are pretty slim.
 

Bones08

Professional
AeonT said:
great article. thanks bones.

Your welcome. I just appreciate positive input and discussion on the girls. As adults/tennagers on a board, I would expect a little more fairness in what is said. Some people take their personal feelings out on these 2 girls, and write a bunch of crazy stuu. Will Serena Retire(lol)......it was just really weird to me. Why ask about Serena, but not other players???

If you think she's supposed to win everything, and when she doesn't you ask will she retire-that's a testament to Serena. That's saying I expect so much from you, that when I don't get it, I believe you need to retire.
 

ty slothrop

Semi-Pro
Bones08 said:
Your welcome. I just appreciate positive input and discussion on the girls. As adults/tennagers on a board, I would expect a little more fairness in what is said. Some people take their personal feelings out on these 2 girls, and write a bunch of crazy stuu. Will Serena Retire(lol)......it was just really weird to me. Why ask about Serena, but not other players???

If you think she's supposed to win everything, and when she doesn't you ask will she retire-that's a testament to Serena. That's saying I expect so much from you, that when I don't get it, I believe you need to retire.

If fairness is what you're interested in, people ask about serena retiring because she barely seems to be interested in tennis. she pulls out of half her tournaments at teh last minute with "injuries," doesn't train, flouts the fact that she would rather focus on cameo TV appearances, and loses early in almost every tourney she plays.
 
ty slothrop said:
If fairness is what you're interested in, people ask about serena retiring because she barely seems to be interested in tennis. she pulls out of half her tournaments at teh last minute with "injuries," doesn't train, flouts the fact that she would rather focus on cameo TV appearances, and loses early in almost every tourney she plays.

and to continue: 20-30 pounds overweight, still never can compliment someone who beats her but makes excuses excuses excuses, and basically only showing up and playing to keep her contract $$$ money coming in. the game is much more enjoyable to watch without her/their embarrasing behavior.
 

Deuce

Banned
The article is just another "if only" perspective. IF ONLY Venus and Serena were more focussed on tennis... blah, blah..

The fact is that they are not focussed on tennis. The fact is that they really don't seem to care as much about tennis as they do about their other routes to 'fame'.

So, what it comes down to - when asking the tennis fan if Venus and Serena are good for the game - is not asking if tennis would be better/more exciting IF they were both interested in playing to their potential - because that is simply not an option. Not right now, at least - and not overall for the past several years. The question to tennis fans must be: 'Is tennis better/more entertaining with Venus and Serena AS THEY ARE?' My answer is No - simply because such apathy and lack of passion tends to lower the standard, not elevate it.

Never mind the 'Would tennis be better if..." questions, because they mean absolutely nothing. Pure speculation and fantasy. Would tennis be better IF John McEnroe didn't age, and remained 23 years old forever? Would tennis be better IF Hingis could serve 120 MPH? Would tennis be better IF Venus & Serena were more focussed and less apathetic?

Useless questions. Let's ask questions based on reality, not wild imaginings.
 
Peolpe are so quick to accuse the sisters of not being focused, committed, whatever. They said the same thing about Rios at his fall. The truth remains, you can only train so hard when you're constantly recovering from injury. I also think the style of play of each of these players lead to their injuries, not laziness.
 
There not going to fall just yet i think there too good for that.But you cant deny they do get a little preoccupied with other things especially Serena.that is all.xx
slack hack said:
Peolpe are so quick to accuse the sisters of not being focused, committed, whatever. They said the same thing about Rios at his fall. The truth remains, you can only train so hard when you're constantly recovering from injury. I also think the style of play of each of these players lead to their injuries, not laziness.
 

Deuce

Banned
slack hack said:
Peolpe are so quick to accuse the sisters of not being focused, committed, whatever. They said the same thing about Rios at his fall. The truth remains, you can only train so hard when you're constantly recovering from injury... and attending fashion school, and designing new styles of clothing, and looking for casting calls for acting roles, and attending galas and parties, hoping to be photographed, and being a 'diva'...
Not focussed on tennis? Who, them?
 

Warriorroger

Hall of Fame
AeonT said:
She's in GREAT company with Seles and Hingis. At least none of these tennis legends have inflated records. Navratilova is way above Graf and Evert. She stands ALONE on top as the greatest.

welcome back tundra
 

Cavaleer

Semi-Pro
AeonT said:
She's in GREAT company with Seles and Hingis. At least none of these tennis legends have inflated records. Navratilova is way above Graf and Evert. She stands ALONE on top as the greatest.


Very true about Martina but Graf and Everett aren't far behind. I think in their primes Steffi would have taken out Martina on everything but grass.

Clearly, I'm trying to get your goat. ;)



Cavaleer
 
"Could have embraced them (the Williams sisters)?" What's to embrace about bashing FH's/BH's day in day out. It demands the respect they very well received, but neither of the two girls took it to the highest potential. I think they both have more talent than any girl out there, but something was always holding them back. Maybe it was their Dad, having to compete against each other or who knows what, but I feel they've both let off the gas and this Open they looked very bad. Serena looked like a cow and both of them seemed to think blasting their way back would win them matches.

They brought power to the womens game, but now don't seem to have much interest in maintaining/improving their form. I liked the letter from Bolletieri. Simply put, they're gonna have to go back to work and I think they should try to "grow up" and get two coaches rather than use the advice of their father and move out and become more "well rounded" like normal people. (I'm assuming they both still live at home in FL.) Time to get out and become individuals. Lleyton has some growing up to do to.
 
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