Head Radical Tour MP - Grommets?

[teh_firestarter]

Hi guys!

I bought two used Head Radical Tour TwinTube Midplus (one zebra, one silver/red/yellow) and wanted to know if I should buy new grommets.

If so, where can I find them? Is there a current radical, perhaps the microgel, that could fit in my racquets?

Thank for the help guys!

 

[Fearsome Forehand]

Any of the Head MP 18x20 grommets will fit. It is a long list.
Some are standard, some are CAPS. Either one will work.

 

[teh_firestarter]

Any of the Head MP 18x20 grommets will fit. It is a long list.
Some are standard, some are CAPS. Either one will work.

Great news! So there's no grommet that would fit the twintube mp "better" than the others?

"Head i.Radical & Ti. Radical Mid+ Grommet" is a good choice right?

Thanks,
-firestarter :twisted:

 

[Fearsome Forehand]

The "best" would be the originals. But, in many cases, these grommets sets are identical except for the labeling . The ones you mentioned are both standard (non CAPS) and will fit fine.

If you are paying someone else to string for you, I would let him order them and put them in. Unless you have done it before, it can be a lot of fun.

I think most stringers will only charge you around $15? to replace the grommets. A bargain if you have never done it before.

If you string for yourself, then you might as well go through the learning curve of teaching grommets that want to be straight to curve.

 

[teh_firestarter]

The "best" would be the originals. But, in many cases, these grommets sets are identical except for the labeling . The ones you mentioned are both standard (non CAPS) and will fit fine.

If you are paying someone else to string for you, I would let him order them and put them in. Unless you have done it before, it can be a lot of fun.

I think most stringers will only charge you around $15? to replace the grommets. A bargain if you have never done it before.

If you string for yourself, then you might as well go through the learning curve of teaching grommets that want to be straight to curve.

I do string for myself (and family) with a klippermate so I think I will try to replace the grommets myself. Thanks for your help Fearsome FH

-firestarter :twisted:

P.S.
You said the "originals" would be best. Do TW sell them? If not, should I bother to try to find some originals or just go with the ones available on TW and stop thinking about it?

 

[Fearsome Forehand]

Chances are the available ones are identical to the originals as the pattern/head size is identical. Just buy the ones you mentioned before; they will fit.

 

[teh_firestarter]

Great thank you.

 

[mars76]

Hi,

I have couple of Radical Tour XLs (Zebra) and one Radical Tour (Yellow/ Blcak/Red Not twin tube) and thinking of trying CAP Grommets for these at least for one of the Zebra.

Any idea whether the CAP Grommets fit these and the best place to get the grommets.

thanks

 

[jim e]

TW will tell you grommets are not avail. for that racquet.
Head i.Radical & Ti. Radical Mid+ Grommet fit it fine, as I have done that a few times, and they are simple to install as well, not a struggle like some can be. Its ashame there is no cross reference avail. for discontinued grommets.

 

[vsbabolat]

Hi,

I have couple of Radical Tour XLs (Zebra) and one Radical Tour (Yellow/ Blcak/Red Not twin tube) and thinking of trying CAP Grommets for these at least for one of the Zebra.

Any idea whether the CAP Grommets fit these and the best place to get the grommets.

thanks

Yes, CAP grommets perfectly because they are from the same mold as the Pro Tour 630. I have CAP Grommets on my Radical Tour TwinTube 630.

Is your Radical Tour that is yellow/black/red look like this?:

 

[Dino Lagaffe]

Yes, CAP grommets perfectly because they are from the same mold as the Pro Tour 630. I have CAP Grommets on my Radical Tour TwinTube 630.

Hi! Do you happen to have the specs for the Capped Radical TT?

 

[vsbabolat]

Hi! Do you happen to have the specs for the Capped Radical TT?

Yes, but they are not with me. I'll get them to you next week.

 

[Dino Lagaffe]

Yes, but they are not with me. I'll get them to you next week.

Great, thanks.

 

[mars76]

No Mine looks like this one

And mine is MidPlus not oversize

The only issue i have is the grip is 4 1/2 and i like 4 3/8. I am planning to remove the original grip and just use a overgrip.

 

[TheRed]

P.S.
You said the "originals" would be best. Do TW sell them? If not, should I bother to try to find some originals or just go with the ones available on TW and stop thinking about it?

I have one set of the original grommets

 

[pshulam]

Yes, CAP grommets perfectly because they are from the same mold as the Pro Tour 630. I have CAP Grommets on my Radical Tour TwinTube 630.

Do you prefer CAP Grommets on PT630 over conventional grommets?

 

[mars76]

What's the biggest advantage of using CAP Grommets over regular ones ??

The only ones i can think of are
1) it might protect the frame when you accidentally hit the ground
2) It surely does add some head weight to the frame. I am not sure whether it produces more stability
3) CAP Grommets looks good

How ever Stringing the CAPped racquet is more painful when compared to un capped one.

I am yet to decide whether i should cap mine or not..

 

[Fearsome Forehand]

The weight difference is only about 6 grams if memory serves.

CAPS are great for protecting the sides of the frame.

Not a huge deal. I have Pro Tours with both standard and CAPS and they play the same either way.

 

[vsbabolat]

Do you prefer CAP Grommets on PT630 over conventional grommets?

I prefer CAP Grommets. It offers better protection and that is where I hide all of my lead in the hoop of the frame. So it makes customizing really easy.

 

[pshulam]

I prefer CAP Grommets. It offers better protection and that is where I hide all of my lead in the hoop of the frame. So it makes customizing really easy.

Thanks. Added protection is definitely a plus.

 

[Steve Huff]

If you can't get Ti or FXP grommets, I'd get the YT grommets over the MG ones. I tried to put some MG grommets on one of the new YT MP's and there is 1 hole (I think it was one of the tie-off holes at the top) where the MG grommet barrel just doesn't want to fit. So, I'm guessing the YT must have a little smaller in diameter grommets in some of their holes.

 

[Thepowerofchoice]

I replaced the original grommets of my Zebra with MG Radical midplus grommets and it was a perfect fit. I also capped one of my Zebra with MG Prestige midplus and it took me about 5 mins no problem. See pictures below.

before:

after:

I also replaced my Head Radical Tour Trisys 260 midplus (Bumblebee) grommets with Youtek Radical midplus grommets and it fits just fine.

before:

after:

***Note, the bumper guards of MG Radical and Youtek Radicals grommets are a bit thinner than the original grommets, You may lose about 2 grams (between 10-2 o'clock) so that would reduce your original swingweight by a few points. Also cap grommets will add about 8-10 extra grams to the hoop of the racquet.

 

[Dino Lagaffe]

Hi! Do you happen to have the specs for the Capped Radical TT?

Yes, but they are not with me. I'll get them to you next week.

I just got my racquet (1998 Rad MP) back from my stringer, who Capped it for me, and added a shrink sleeve.

Specs before:
Weight: 335/11.82
Flex: 59
SW: 316
Balance: 32.25

Specs after:
Weight: 361/12.73
Flex: 59
SW: 319
Balance: 30.5

 

[seb23]

I replaced the original grommets of my Zebra with MG Radical midplus grommets and it was a perfect fit. I also capped one of my Zebra with MG Prestige midplus and it took me about 5 mins no problem. See pictures below.

before:

after:

I also replaced my Head Radical Tour Trisys 260 midplus (Bumblebee) grommets with Youtek Radical midplus grommets and it fits just fine.

before:

after:

***Note, the bumper guards of MG Radical and Youtek Radicals grommets are a bit thinner than the original grommets, You may lose about 2 grams (between 10-2 o'clock) so that would reduce your original swingweight by a few points. Also cap grommets will add about 8-10 extra grams to the hoop of the racquet.

how did you get the youtek grommets to fit on the radical 260, im trying this and the grommets dont seem to line up with the holes

 

[Thepowerofchoice]

how did you get the youtek grommets to fit on the radical 260, im trying this and the grommets dont seem to line up with the holes

Really??? It was a perfect fit for me. Start from 12 o'clock and work your way down.

 

[seb23]

Really??? It was a perfect fit for me. Start from 12 o'clock and work your way down.

I tried both ways as well as heating the grommets up in water.

I even turned the grommets around so they were flush against the frame, then compared it to the holes and noticed that they didn't line up in certain positions.

Im not sure why yours fitted so well. Can anyone confirm if the youtek radicals have a slightly different configuration to the Head Radical Tour Trisys 260 midplus?

Also does anyone know what other non cap alternatives are there? From reading these boards it seems like the microgel grommets would fit perfectly, is that correct?

 

[Thepowerofchoice]

I tried both ways as well as heating the grommets up in water.

I even turned the grommets around so they were flush against the frame, then compared it to the holes and noticed that they didn't line up in certain positions.

Im not sure why yours fitted so well. Can anyone confirm if the youtek radicals have a slightly different configuration to the Head Radical Tour Trisys 260 midplus?

Also does anyone know what other non cap alternatives are there? From reading these boards it seems like the microgel grommets would fit perfectly, is that correct?

I don't know why it does not fit for you. Yes I used microgel grommets before too for my Bumblebee Radical 260 and it was a perfect fit.

 

[seb23]

I don't know why it does not fit for you. Yes I used microgel grommets before too for my Bumblebee Radical 260 and it was a perfect fit.

I managed to fit the microgel radical grommets on my bumblebee, i wouldn't say it was perfect, the fourth grommet holes either side of 12 seem to rise a bit, not sitting totally flush but hopefully once its strung these shouldn't be a problem

 

[craniopath]

after changing the radical tour grommets with microgel, is it good practice to follow tie off holes for radical tour or can one use the tie off holes of microgel radical. I think one is different in two piece. also same question 4 prestige cap grommets. thanks

 

[goldenyama]

I just got my racquet (1998 Rad MP) back from my stringer, who Capped it for me, and added a shrink sleeve.

Specs before:
Weight: 335/11.82
Flex: 59
SW: 316
Balance: 32.25

Specs after:
Weight: 361/12.73
Flex: 59
SW: 319
Balance: 30.5

How can SW be increased by only 3 points when youve added all that mass to the hoop?

 

[Dino Lagaffe]

How can SW be increased by only 3 points when youve added all that mass to the hoop?

I guess the shrink sleeve took out most of the effect the CAP would have on making the SW higher.

 

[seb23]

I guess the shrink sleeve took out most of the effect the CAP would have on making the SW higher.

I think you're confusing SW and balance. Even adding a heat shrink sleeve would increase the SW albeit only a little

 

[goldenyama]

I think you're confusing SW and balance. Even adding a heat shrink sleeve would increase the SW albeit only a little

Yeah..I don't think the finished SW can be correct. Unless you've discovered some magic formula for adding weight without increasing swingweight

 

[craniopath]

I finally received my grommets from TW, God it took long.

I wonder whether anyone has this experience but it looks like microgel radical mp grommets are not a perfect fit for radical tour. 10T grommets on both sides didn't fit flush. It probably will when I get it strung. Also 4H grommets on both sides act as if they don't belong there also gave me a very hard time together with 5H which seems to fit fine now.

Also a question about stringing. Microgel radical mp and radical tour have different tie off grommets. 8T/6H,7T and 7T/6H,5T respectively. If I don't say anything the stringer probably will string it like microgel radical. Do you think that will matter, shall I specifically ask him to use tie off grommets of radical tour?

thanks in advance

 

[craniopath]

can you share your favourite string setups for the radical tour, or refer me to a thread it has been discussed as I failed to find one. thanks

 

[Sweet-Spot]

Any of the Head MP 18x20 grommets will fit. It is a long list.
Some are standard, some are CAPS. Either one will work.

I have some Flexpoint Radical 18x20 grommets and it seems to not fit, I'm not brave enough to rip off the ones on my radical tour until I'm 100% sure. Anyone know if these will fit?

 

[niktub]

I have some Flexpoint Radical 18x20 grommets and it seems to not fit, I'm not brave enough to rip off the ones on my radical tour until I'm 100% sure. Anyone know if these will fit?

Anyone?

 

[TheRed]

The fxp radical grommets will fit but not perfect. The fxp has a slightly thicker beam

 

[TheRed]

The iprestige mp xl grommets will also fit

 

[Songs For A Dead Pilot]

The fxp radical grommets will fit but not perfect. The fxp has a slightly thicker beam

Have you checked them or someone you know maybe? Thank you!