Henman vs Tsonga. Who's greater?

[dapchai]

Henman:

Career high ranking No.4
11 singles titles, including one Masters
Slams performance: 6 SFs and 4 QFs, most of them at Wimbledon, but never reached QF at AO
35 top 10 wins
4 doubles titles
Defeated Federer at Wimbledon '01
Former British No.1


Tsonga:

Career high ranking No.5
18 singles titles, including two Masters (also runner-up at YEC '11)
Slams performance: 1 F, 5 SFs, and 6 QFs, reached QF and better (at least three times) at all four majors
45 top 10 wins
4 doubles titles
Defeated Federer at Wimbledon '11 and Nadal at AO '08
Former French No.1

H2H: Henman 0-1 Tsonga at USO '07

 

[King No1e]

Tsonga. This is a fact. Fite me @TimHenmanATG

 

[LetWinner]

This honestly isn’t even close

 

[dapchai]

Tsonga. This is a fact. Fite me @TimHenmanATG

The poll is too imbalanced now.

This honestly isn’t even close

Why?

 

[LetWinner]

The poll is too imbalanced now.

Why?

Tsonga objectively accomplished slightly more but in a waaaaay stronger era. 1998-2002 is when Henman did most of his damage and that is literally one of the worst stretches for tennis since the open era began. Tsonga's prime was smack dab in the middle of the big 3's prime

 

[dapchai]

Tsonga objectively accomplished slightly more but in a waaaaay stronger era. 1998-2002 is when Henman did most of his damage and that is literally one of the worst stretches for tennis since the open era began. Tsonga's prime was smack dab in the middle of the big 3's prime

We need @RS @Mainad @TimHenmanATG to assess this.

 

[Omega_7000]

Tsonga but voted Henman coz felt bad for him

 

[dapchai]

Tsonga but voted Henman coz felt bad for him

No need to feel bad for the former British No.1. But the other was also French No.1...

 

[Newballsplease872]

Henman

 

[RS]

We need @RS @Mainad @TimHenmanATG to assess this.

You should do Tsonga vs Thiem or Med.

 

[aldeayeah]

But did Tsonga reach the RG semifinal by serve and volleying like Timmy did?

uh, I guess he kinda did

 

[Beerus]

Henman cannot be an ATG if he isn't greater than Tsonga.

 

[Deleted member 762343]

Henman is an ATG, Tsonga isn’t.

 

[Sudacafan]

We need @RS @Mainad @TimHenmanATG to assess this.

Oh, you wrote assess! Phew! What a difference a tiny s makes.

 

[Sudacafan]

Henman cannot be an ATG if he isn't greater than Tsonga.

I believe the ATGness of Henman relies on his passport.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

I believe the ATGness of Henman relies on his passport.

The passport, the hill, random semi-final appearance at Roland Garros 2004 and the diving volley against Kafelnikov.

That's more than enough to get him in.

 

[kevaninho]

Tsonga objectively accomplished slightly more but in a waaaaay stronger era. 1998-2002 is when Henman did most of his damage and that is literally one of the worst stretches for tennis since the open era began. Tsonga's prime was smack dab in the middle of the big 3's prime

Lets not use recency bias too much here. In Henmans prime, the grass competition was way higher. The HC opponents werent too shabby either, and im sure some people will chime in regards to clay, which i wasnt able to see much of on 'normal tv' as a kid.

 

[TheNachoMan]

Peak Tsonga annihilates Tiny Tim.

 

[Sudacafan]

The passport, the hill, random semi-final appearance at Roland Garros 2004 and the diving volley against Kafelnikov.

That's more than enough to get him in.

About RG04, I would have preferred Henman to win it over Gaudio, once Coria could not.

 

[TheNachoMan]

About RG04, I would have preferred Henman to win it over Gaudio, once Coria could not.

The existence of Coria ensures that Federer can never be called the biggest choker ever.

 

[dapchai]

You should do Tsonga vs Thiem or Med.

Med hasn't retired yet. Thiem is probably a Helsinki resident; but he is former World No.3, won a slam and played 3 other slam finals. Not even close.

 

[King_olaf_the_hairy]

Have to go with Tsonga. Not only does he have better on-paper peaks at both the slams and YEC, but his actual peak performances, e.g. vs Rafa at AO08, are ahead of anything Tiger Tim can boast of.

Having said that, I don't think the gap's as huge as others here are implying. And serve-volleying his way to a RG semi in 2004 was quite the party trick.