How to reverse kick serve to lefty receiver on deuce side?

[goodracket]

To kick to righty receiver on ad side,
toss around 12 o'clock and
swing up and right
contact ball from ~6:30 to 1:30.

To kick to lefty receiver on deuce side (to kick up and left to lefty's backhand side)
toss where? similar to slice? around 1 o'clock and slightly forward?
swing up and left?
contact ball from ~5 to 11?

 

[BlueB]

Just a regular top-slice serve.

 

[Dartagnan64]

Why wouldn't you just slice to the deuce side against a lefty?

 

[LeeD]

Try 11.
But why twist to a lefty's forehand? Especially if he uses a strong grip.

 

[goodracket]

Most of the wide serve will be slice (with low bounce). I want to mix up a slice with high bounce mirroring a kick to the ad side.

 

[SystemicAnomaly]

To kick to righty receiver on ad side,
toss around 12 o'clock and
swing up and right
contact ball from ~6:30 to 1:30.

To kick to lefty receiver on deuce side (to kick up and left to lefty's backhand side)
toss where? similar to slice? around 1 o'clock and slightly forward?
swing up and left?
contact ball from ~5 to 11?

Doesn't really sound like a very useful serve against a lefty. After a couple of these, any decent lefty might eat up this serve. You will probably better off just throwing in a topspin-slice every once in a while. The TS-slice serve will bounce higher than a slice serve that has primarily sidespin.

As a lefty, I would often hit a fairly decent twist kick. But I found that it was more effective against right-handers than it was against other lefties.

 

[goodracket]

Maybe I didn't described it well and the term is topspin-slice: Wide to the deuce with high bounce (to a lefty backhand.)

Were would be the ideal toss?
Were to make ball contact and follow through?

 

[eah123]

I know what you want. Toss slightly to left at 11 o’clock. Contact the ball at normal height for a kick serve (slightly lower than flat serve). On the ball, contact below center at 6’ o’clock and brush up and to right around 2 o’clock. I do this serve as a second serve sometimes against righties who are expecting a kick serve down the T.

 

[goodracket]

I know what you want. Toss slightly to left at 11 o’clock. Contact the ball at normal height for a kick serve (slightly lower than flat serve). On the ball, contact below center at 6’ o’clock and brush up and to right around 2 o’clock. I do this serve as a second serve sometimes against righties who are expecting a kick serve down the T.

Thanks. Seems like that would work. Should the toss be around baseline or inside the baseline?

 

[eah123]

Thanks. Seems like that would work. Should the toss be around baseline or inside the baseline?

Inside the baseline. Same as you would with a normal kick serve. Not as far in as a flat serve.

 

[socallefty]

I hit top-spin slice by tossing to the same location as my slice serve (front/left for lefty) and then hitting a kick serve swingpath. When I want to hit a kick, I toss above my head slightly to my right (behind me). So, a righty would just toss to his righty slice location (front/right) and hit a kick serve swingpath.